Hikikomori: “What’ll You Do If Your Parents Die?” “Suicide”
- Categories: Japan, News
- Date: Feb 16, 2010 04:42 JST
- Tags: Bizarre, Hikikomori, Mass Media, Mental Illness, NEETs, Old People, Ronery, Suicide
Hikikomori asked what they would do if their parents, for most their only source of income, were to die overwhelmingly gave responses such as “commit suicide” or “starve to death.”
An Osaka University researcher studying the uncertain number of hikikomori Japan harbours soon discovered many hikikomori regarded the only way out of their miserable parasitism was death.
He found that amongst the “first generation” hikikomori, now aged 40-45, many will over the next decade face the prospect of losing their parents as they begin to succumb to old age, and perhaps more importantly their pensions will no longer exist to support them.
Asking these hikikomori what they would do were their parents to pass away, he found the majority of answers were along the lines of “commit suicide” or “starve to death,” with only a small minority prepared to finally enter society as working adults.
Indeed, he claims that cases of hikikomori suicide for this reason have begun to come to light, not welcome news for a nation experiencing record levels of suicide.
Generally, the only way hikikomori are thought to be able to sustain themselves is through lavish parental indulgence, as Japan’s benefit system is inadequate to sustain such indolence for any great length of time.
With Japan’s ballooning population of pensioners desperately concerned about whether they will be able to extract enough taxes from the shrinking younger generations to support their lavish pensions, it seems media hysteria about hikikomori, NEETs and freeters is only set to grow.
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I'm about to make a general discussion, not solely based on japan, but about the situation worldwide.
With various governments all around the world seeking to ban loli and probably hentai too, it's not like i don't understand them (the hikkis).
In my case it would be like: Why do i have to contribute with my hard work for a country that's not doing my interests and start a witchhunt against lolis and hentai (usa, uk, australia, and sooner or later, under international pression, japan too)?
What i get in return for my hard work?
Here is what i get: censorship, restriction of freedom of expression, maybe jail for possession of "obscene" material; and afrer a month of hardwork a small amount of pay (since most of it has been taxated and taken away from me to pay those people who want to ban hentai).
Not working and not giving my money to those people is my only choice and weapon, actually.
I have to say i'm not a hikki, since i got some friends out there and i usually go out to buy food and the like. But i'm a NEET, for choice!
yea i know, i can find some job, but i won't! since i will fuel with my money and with my work the actual status of things.
Things have to change, and if they won't, then they can forget my money.
Being a NEET, in my case, is a form of PROTEST against the shit governments around the world are shooting out recently.
since i'm italian, i'm sorry for my poor and bad english.
Think about it. Many hikikomoris suffer from the feeling of despair, depression and worthlessness brought on by Japanese society's ideals that by every passing second are rising more and more into what we see as just plain unreachable. You can even say that beneath its facade, Japanese society actually encourages how these "lazy fatasses" will just kill themselves for the greater good.
Purupuru Pururin Rin!
Actually I figure a lot of them would get into buying and selling crap on ebay or working in a comic book store.
Other things fixing people's computers you can make $60 a pop doing that.
I bought my second car and a mess of mods for it doing computer repair while in college.
Of course I also delivered pizzas which killed it's trans but it bought me a beefed up 4LE60 to replace it and paid my insurance.
The car I got I suffered though a little piece of hell known as fast food to pay for.
Not sure what Japan will do about their problem as a lot of Hikiki's seem to have PTSD.
But Kiri in that pic there I'd gladly give her a home if she needed one.
Does Kiri get to keep the home if she grew fat and fugly after a few years?
Fixing computer is $100/h !
Learn something!
Former Hikki here,
Just a piece of advice for those Hikkis reading this:
Do something, do anything, nothing leads to nothing.
If you fail, just keep trying.
Watch Dirty Jobs on Discovery Channel, there's tons of options available if you don't mind getting dirty. Seriously.
My advice to Hikkikomori -
You drop out of society due to your own dissatisfaction with it. This is a positive - you recognize things are fucked. The next step is to emulate the actions of the greatest hero and spiritual leader the world has ever known, G.G. Allin.
My advice to Hikkikomori -
Start your own society! You should all get together and, like, build your own civilization or something. It could have some pipes and a road and maybe a castle or two.
And you'll control everything through a system of levers and pulleys.
If you fail, just keep failing?
Sorry, couldn't resists!
In Japanese society it's safe to assume that being a NEET for just a short time is basically an eternal death sentence. What do you expect
Either let the hikkies die, or give them JOBS AND PEOPLE THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN.
As a former Hikkomori turned Small Business Owner, I have one thing to say. If you cant find a job, make one, start a business even if you have to do it out of your home.
"Do what you love and the money will follow". I started off buying cheap games and DVDs at yard sales and flea markets, then selling them at a higher price at other flea markets. Sure, I am not a millionaire, and I don't own a storefront yet (20% markup helps if you keep a budget on what you buy. I average $500 a day selling at the flea markets and I only buy $100-$200 in merchandise to support it), but I am working on it.
NO WAY!!!
YOSUGA NO SORA IS MY ANSWER!!!
you just say get a job, what fin job? ive tried mcd, cleaning up from when people get sick at bar, shoveling horse poop i.e. cleaning barns, walmart w.e. you name it, i cant get hired= cant do anything about it. maybe if some one used a computer or television before they would know about the economic down turn, not everyone can just get a job, even if you can not every job will pay enough to live, sweet i could work a full time job, and a part time job, and still not have any money for anything never have time to go to college to get a better job, just work dead end jobs being totally degrading intuill die at like 40-50 because fin work like 14-18hrs a day cant afford real food, or medicine or anything really, great option there. there are worse options than being a hikikomori its called being an amerkian, just waiting to get kicked out so can kill self. + its nice when your forced to go outside and apply for jobs nd stuff, just to find out big suprise obviously dont get the job, just to get yelled at for not getting it, and there all pissed at you ashamed of you, claiming your lazy and w.e.
Oh, NEETs, there's no need to kill yourselves. You're already dead inside.
horrible but still so damn funny
These hikikomoris can just go send themselves to prison. They don't leave the house anyway, so the loss of freedom wouldn't matter. They get fed, 4 walls and a roof, and even some exercise every morning.
Sounds like a perfect solution, except for the part about using taxpayer's money to build more prisons to house them and feed them. Especially in California, where the prisons are overcrowded and too much taxpayers money are spent on them. No wonder you get a budget crisis over there.
There's no video games in prison, morron.
i don't know about your prison,but in our country they pretty much have tvs,computers in prisons and play games.
Welcome to NHK world conspiracy run around
Wow alot of people here are totally clueless to the reasons and circumstances that make these people into Hikikomori and you can see it in their hateful and clueless posts.
Others have a good idea and can see how someone could get stuck in a life like this, family pressure to do a specific job or not aproving of their desired job, Failure, ever increasing costs of living, Lazy, mental health(why do you think their mental health is affected?), depression, lack of emotional support.
What does the scantily clad anime girl above have to do with this?
If Satou from Welcome to the NHK can do it then everyone can.
Well the parents should just at least try to take them out often...
I never really knew how this Hikikomori works... Staying at home and lying around doing nothing much...
Death to the useless scums of society.
The parents are the real scum. They spend all that money allowing their child to waste his life, then complain that "there's nothing I can do to stop him." Sure there is, you morons. Grow some balls, cut off his allowance, sell his computer, pick him up by the scruff of his neck and throw him at the real world. If he doesn't make it, oh, well. It's not like it's a big loss.
Disregard for human life is so edgy.
Isn't throwing them out basically the same as killing them?
Why not just force them to join the SDF for a few years?
That should sort them out. Mandatory Conscription for all NEETS and hikkis.
The people need really help.
Where is Milk-chan when you need her ?
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/26/japan%E2%80%99s-new-weapon-against-neets-hikikomori-miruku/
they are right: if they don't find a new host most parasites will die - except those who enter spore mode
Of course we are talking about humans: solution for them will be.....seppuku...wait that means death!!1
well at 40-45 it's already late so less hope for them to be normal again
Hikikomori = Human fail
No being Human = fail
If they don't go outside at least they won't throw themselves in front of trains and hinder the traffic.
In Japan it is common for families to be responsible for any damages incurred by people who die.
Living in a country with higher suicide rates for males than Japan, and being a Hikkikomori facing the same problem doesn't make my future look too bright.
I refuse to be called a parasite however, I would have killed myself already to avoid that, but I don't want to make my parents sad by doing so, that would be even worse for them.
I can still hope for a miracle, though.
Lithuania? What's up?
I'd starve to death too. :(
uhmm... starve to death man that sucks....
and commit suicide.... uhmm.....
if im in that condition i will get a job..
seriously...
doing nothing is boring....
Well,
Do they have good jobs waiting for them that will sustain them? The Japan I heard about growing up was kids killing themselves if they didn't get into college, people working 18 hour days a stranger to their family, and no friends just fiction which was why their entertainment got so developed... Then later things started to crumble. Anybody would rebel against such a system by taking what most would consider 'embarrassing' things like living with the parents who might also want to protect their kids against what they went through.
Earlier, discussing the "Sea Shepard" I caught a comment; "To be on a fishing ship is to be a dead man."
Is there no honor, nor any reasonable reward for 'basic work'? Look at how they fight, splattering themselves with pepper spray (and manning the water cannons, waving knives, dodging propeller tangling nets, etc.) to bring home Whale Penis and Whale Anus for sushi for their countrymen. I might disagree with fishing the ocean to collapse levels, but from their vantage point they should be considered heroes, not "Dead Men" who are somehow degraded because they do basic work rather than sitting 18 hours a day at an office trying to design and market the latest "Egg" toy...
Really, person one group comes into the harbor: "Look, my countrymen! I have gotten covered with rotten butt-er- horrible acid by crazy eco terorrists, but I have brought home a ship full of fish! Sushi time!" - and they go "How dare you SPEAK to us, UNTOUCHABLE!!!???" (really, wasn't that gravediggers, executioners, Ainu?)
And the other person goes:
"I have designed a masturbation Egg that resembles the fictional vagina of this fantasy monster girl creature that won't be possible for another 100 years with Genetic Engineering..." http://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/421840 and they go "Yaaay!!!" and a lady offers to buy the man prize whale anus sushi at a restaurant but he refuses because he prefers to use the eggs to masturbate to the anthropomorphized "Sea Angels"...
Now, I'm joking, ok? I bet Japan could turn itself around real quick, and a lot easier than other countries. It's like Oriental philosophy has been telling us 'westerners' for years: "You need barance glasshoppah!" Just some 'social tweaking' to ensure good jobs at all levels, the social expectation to take them, better laws to protect the man and encourage him to marry, likewise to encourage the woman to marry and stay with the men... Above all a sense of 'purpouse', a 'place in society' with honor.
While this comment is as unbalanced and digressive as usual, he makes a good point. Even if Hikikomori do manage to reintegrate, will society reciprocate? Are there jobs and spouses for them?
It's pointless to 'fix' the Hikikomoris, while leaving the Japan that created them alone.
The only thing, Barbarian, is that social tweaking is what fucked up things to begin with.
Humans are imperfect creatures, and their works are also fallible. It seems that no matter what we've done, nothing works all that well in practice.
Japan had a pretty stable society, even counting the wars and stuff, for thousands of years. It's also a living culture, it hasn't been completely killed by modern consumerism. Also, as was pointed out when the Guru of Gas made his move, most of Japan was run like a "Mind Control Cult" until recently.
IMO, they could very quickly turn things around. They are genetically programmed better than most to be part of a group, serve a purpose, but they have at best a bitter, thankless struggle for crude possessions and fantasy goals set in the stratosphere. Why not just seek the path of quickest comfort? But it's one thing to be alive and another to live.
and all the fault is to the system who promised to everyone a bright future if you study, all lies thats why there are so many hikis and those are better than what happends in third world, all the youngs become criminals, drug dealers, etc society must find a way to share the money to everyone and not only a few faggots
If they would know about the German social system, most, no, all of them would learn enough German to fill out the respective forms and emigrate to their dear WWII friend.
So that basicly means that the Japanese can just sit this problem out, right? Pretty convenient if you ask me.
That's like saying we can just sit out the human race. Though hikkis die, more are "born" (both literally and by choice).
Zounds! My perfect plan fails me!
I'd just whore myself out to 1,000 fat chicks for $100 dollars each. Or 100 really fat chicks for $1,000 dollars each. What? Fat chicks need love too.
The Whooshing sound is off the charts on this comment.
In the US, you'll be giving up about 1/3 of that to taxes, Social Security, SUTA, etc., or run the risk of imprisonment for tax evasion.
Oh, plus potential prostitution charges.
If you're convicted and go to jail, you can still do that work, but _you_ will be the "bitch", and you'll do it for protection or cigarettes (which were probably smuggled in up someone's ass).
As if fat chicks would choose you over some handsome host type guy... If it cost money, might as well pay for hot stuff, why choose some substandard untrained dud.
Maybe you would do that, but it seems rather unlikely that a hikikomori would consider doing that...
you got salty chocolate balls as well? but don´t forget to lay em down by the fire.
Well, what if the hikikomori is fat also? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of a fat chick paying him for sex? They want the skinny guys so they can hide them in their fat rolls after all.