Christopher Handley, the manga collector who faced 15 years after postal inspectors seized his shipment of loli manga, has been sentenced to 6 months in prison for “possessing obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children and mailing obscene material.”
The details of the case are visible in a previous report, but in summary 38-year-old Christopher Handley, a programmer who lived in his mother’s basement, ordered 7 loli manga from Japan, which customs inspector “Inspector Raper” took exception to after going through his package, leading to a series of criminal charges.
The judge ruled a number of the charges unconstitutional, but two charges based on “obscenity” stuck: “possessing obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children and mailing obscene material,” based on a technicality – he had committed an act of “interstate commerce”:
Section 1466A, the primary statute involved in this case, prohibits the dissemination in interstate commerce of a narrow category of “hardcore” pornography involving real or apparent minors, where such depictions lack literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
The court documents confirmed that Handley had in the eyes of the court committed a definite thought crime:
Mr. Handley may argue that this case is “just about drawings,” but such a characterization is misleading. This case is not “just about drawings” any more than child pornography cases are “just about photographs,” or cases involving threatening to kill a public official are “just about words.”
The acts depicted in some of these obscene materials are punishable in many jurisdictions by decades or more of imprisonment. The sentence should reflect these facts.
It would appear that possessing fictional depictions of violent crimes should by the same measure also attract a prison sentence.
The court’s official summary is available here.
Previously it appears he tried to gull the courts and media into thinking he was in possession of “yaoi” comics, but court documents reveal exactly which manga he was charged with receiving – all, save a bestiality manga anthology, were pure loli-manga by top loli-mangaka:
Maka Fushigi – I Love Doll
Maka Fushigi – Eromon
Maka Fushigi – Kono Manko ga Sugoi
Maka Fushigi – Jidou Porno
Nekogen – Otonari Kazoku
Tamachi Yuki – Mikansei Seifuku Shoujo
Anthology – The Animal Sex Anthology Vol. 3 (Kemono For Essential 03)
His defence apparently thought they would have difficulty convincing the local jury that these edifying titles were not “obscene” and so not constitutionally protected free speech, prompting his original guilty plea, in order to save him from a lengthy minimum sentence.
This did not stop them flagrantly lying about the content of the manga in question:
“There is explicit sex in yaoi comics, and the men are drawn in a very androgynous style, which has the effect of making them look really young.
There’s a real taboo in Japan about showing pubic hair, so they’re all drawn without it, which also makes them look young.
So what concerned the authorities were the depictions of children in explicit sexual situations that they believed to be obscene.
But there are no actual children. It was all very crude images from a comic book.”
The defence claimed that of the thousands of volumes he had collected, only a few were lolicon in nature, although their credibility is rather suspect in light of the utter fabrication above. The authorities kept 80 of 1,200 volumes seized, including such eminent lolicon titles as LO.
The judge sentenced him to 6 months in jail, 5 years on various forms of probation, and forfeiture of confiscated assets (loli manga and computer).
Additionally he will face lie detector tests and psychological evaluations, at his own expense, in order to monitor his “condition.” He must also pay a $200 fine.
The sentencing document is visible here.
It seems he will not have to register as a sex offender or be barred from future computer usage.
He faced a maximum of 10 years, and a lengthy federally imposed minimum sentence if convicted without the plea bargain.
Since he pleaded guilty and was convicted specifically on grounds of moving “obscene” materials in an act of interstate commerce, the actual murky overall legal status of loli-manga as constitutionally protected free speech appears to remain unchanged.
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This is Injustice!
I demand to speak with the court about their bullshitery!
don't go to Iowa my friend...
But I heard they had delicious potatoes
Tragedy , i live in iowa and saw that and i was like YEEE
He plead guilty though. So no matter what, he is guilty of the accusation.
This is exactly the kind of bullshit that pretty much any constitution exists to prevent.
I guess no ideal is too pure to corrupt when the jury hears CP.
have you actually read the constitution at all??? It doesn't protect your freedom of speech, it just protects it from the US congress. the first ammendment says congress shall make no law etc etc etc and the tenth says what isn't given over to the federal government is reserved to the states. what this all means is that freedom of speech was never meant to be absolute for example you can't cry fire in a crowded theatre etc etc.
The real problem here isn't about the constitution but rather where is the crime. This is more along the lines of if I sat down and wrote a murder mystery novel and then got arrested for murder, as did people who read it.
WtF is wrong with this world....they prison people for fapping to their loli manga(that aren't even real)? It would make sence if he ACTUALLY had child pornography... I bet you the stupid judge did this so he can posses the mangas to which he will fap to later.........I sense an an Anime revolution is going to happen soon...
Everything above asides...
how come programmers described in sancom always live in their mother's basements? =_=;
I for one, live in the attic. Silly underground trolls.
Judging by the ANN article, it doesn't seem that Handley lived in his mother's house before he lost his job (thanks to this "obscene drawings" case) :
"He immediately started work as a computer programmer in 1995 for a company that he stayed with until 2007 — when his employer learned of his pending charges. The documents stated Handley returned to live in his mother's house so he could assist her due to her medical problems."
@11:52 I've read my country's constitution if that's good enough for you. We also have similar texts here.
The (US) constitution does protect your right to say whatever you want. It just doesn't guarantee you any protection from the consequences of your words.
So in your example, while you may scream "fire" as much as you want, you may still get arrested. And even then you will only be prosecuted for the act of causing panic, and not for what you said.
The US constitution's first amendment guarantees that nobody, government or not, has the power to regulate your right to speak freely about any subject they desire. What it doesn't guarantee is protection from the law if what you say is harmful to others.
@ Anon 17:07 -
What a coinkidink! I live in an attic room too! ^_-
...............
DID THE WORLD JUST TAKE A HUGE ELVIS COLON-BUSTING SHIT TODAY?!?
Thought Crime!? What is this.... fucking 1984?!?
Tell me you're shitting me, Artefact. Please. Throw me that bone, wouldja?
Hayami that sounds really sad, the way he went to help with her medical problems he sounds like a real hero. I think it would be wonderful if anyone with artistic talents (perhaps some of the artists who did these works could be notified and translate the case details for them) could create a short manga about him. I think he really should be a manga character and we can have the lawyers and legal defense fund and evil post office ans so forth like Team Rocket in Pokemon
When did pleading guilty make you guilty? In any country with a proper legal system the court still has to do the trial and establish your guilt.
A guilty plea is just one aspect of the trial, and can even be thrown out if the judge finds it was made on the wrong basis.
In a country with a proper legal system, that is.
When will they ban crime shows because they promote crimes by showing them?
Pleading 'guilty' does make you guilty unless the judge refuses to accept the plea.
If you are willing to accept sentencing without admitting to any guilt, you plead 'nolo contendere'.
But this can be used against you the next time you get caught.
Nolo contendere: that's a bitch
Haha, seems to be like pleading guilty in a crusade. No mercy for the heretic! seriously though, I guess he should be counted fortunate all of the sexual offences were dropped.
If he's guilty, where does that leave us? Are we guilty too for having loli-manga?
With more hardcore collectors, they might think about restarting Alcatraz Island.
Oh wait...Japan is an island...
Riiight! We should condemn hardcore, deviant otaku by exiling them to Japan! It's like condemning them to Hell!
I'm for this idea :3
Exile Hardcore Otaku to Japan!!To work on Whaler ships!!!
It will be a hillarious encounter with those SeaSheaperds.
USA sucks more than ever!
In general western countries..
Why the hell didnt he download it like every body else?He supposed tobe a Computer programmer dammit.It save time and money and his pride too.
What Canadane said is absolutely true to be honest.
In about 98% certainty he either agreed to take a deal by simply pleading guilty or his lawyer convinced him that just accepting this sentence was better then what "could happen" if it went bad at trial.
All things considered it probably was the best thing he could do.
The dude got conned into this plea "bargain." If this is a sign of what's in store for the good ol' USSA, we are truly screwed.
this just enforces the idea that you really will get sued for just about anything in the states....
u know what this means.... this site needs to erase all loli... or you'll go to jail just for saving it onto your harddrive :O
and..... we need to delete... all kinds of loli... n then clean it further to erase all trace.. if u have any.. all lame
Yes, because ignorance is the approach to teaching future generations.
I pity you.
Ahhh, whatever.
At least now I know what go2jail-level "must-fap" loli-manga I should check. How was it called? "Maka Fushigi – I Love Doll"?
I demand you die by my Lord's orders.
wow, the court system sure is fucked up ain't it?
Yeah, it is, and if I was him I would appeal this to the highest level in the courts and have these laws in question overturned.
He doesn't get to appeal. That was part of the deal with accepting a guilty plea.
Wat a surprise, looks like the court was bluffing.
He should have fought instead of pleading guilty imo.
Actually, someone could do a 'friend of the court' deal saying that the guy was scared shitless by the courts and therefore, wasn't in his right mind at the time of the plea..... then, he gets to appeal if they can prove that.... hell, I would buy them if I was the court or appellate court.
The plead bargain might have been his best option. If you were in his shoes, how do you afford your legal defense against the government, which has virtually limitless resources and power. And then you would have to put up the constant harassment they throw at you. If you lose your appeal, you won't get a lenient sentence and they are gonna lock you up for a very long time. It sucks to be him but he really didn't have a choice there but to bend over.
Hey, here's an idea. Let's get rid of the "If I were him" crap. Why don't you go get some lolicon manga, surrender to the police, and let us all see how you fight the case to the "highest levels"?
Oh wait, you have no balls to do that? Yeah, thought so.
except that the stupid faggot got railroaded and just took it at face value, he had the support of the CBLDF , and probably could have got ACLU on board for his case, but he just bent over and took it
Anonymous 1 reponding to Anonymous hits the nail on the head.
The guy was STUPID when he had the CBLDF on his side to make a plea bargain in this case..... and the ACLU would have gotten involved on this if he had asked.
I've talked with people who belong to the local ACLU, and they are getting tired of the whole pedosexual hate in the first place, because they have relatives who are that and are getting tired of having them discriminated against like the homosexuals were at one point.
USA law is most ridiculous in the world.
No one would care in TURKEY if you own loli manga, cause its art or something, but dont dare to offend ATATURK that puts you in Jail.
And this man is not a criminal for owning mangas,
WESTERN countries should behead the real SEX CHILD RAPER Fucktards which go out of Jail in Germany where i live.Citizens are going mad about that such people run free in the country and most of them repeat their crimes !
Also with the FRITZl-MF from Austria who raped and imprisoned his own daughters.
Where is the logic about it?
No! You are fucked up for thinking this is ok.
Thinking what is okay? Owning lolimanga? Explain to me why you think that pictures and literature in the form of a comic can make you into a monster that preys on the rest of the world? Really, go ahead. I would love to hear your answer.
If you would have read his post right, he said we should be prosecuting people who go after REAL LIVE CHILDREN.
What the fuck is your problem? Were you not raised right? If you look at lolimanga and turn into a pedo, you were already one to begin with.
The judge is a retard... he doesn't know what he was talking about... there was no crime done. I hope that judge goes too hell.
loli manga is exactly what you think it is--IT'S MANGA WITH LOLIS.
manga is a form of the press. in the United States we have freedom of the press guaranteed in the first amendment.taking manga away and giving a sentence because it counts as possession of child porn would be unconstitutional and unjust.
essentially, this judge singlehandedly drove the American justice system back to 1918 when the Espionage and Sedition Acts were putting anyone in jail who even thought of saying anything negative about America.
maybe its even been pushed back since before America even had a Constitution. congratulations, idiotic judge; I now apparently live in a colony.
You are forgetting something. The key word "kiddie porn" makes all people in the US and EU turn off their brains and join the lynch mob.
Humans are naturally faulty and the majority of people are way too scared to question what society considers "the norm".
Heidegger calls this "das Man".
sadly too true. you could sub in "whaling" and still get a similar response- one composed of irrational fear and holier-than-thou outrage.
I don't think the "norm" is the problem. The problem is just as you said " people in the US, and EU, turn off their brains and join the lynch mob".
Noone ever goes "well it's weird, but it IS just a drawing on paper". The minute you start telling people what they can write/draw/paint, free speech becomes a joke.
*cough* Sorry mate, are you seriously attempting to argue with a straight face that free speech gives you a constitutional right to own child porn? (Whether loli manga actually counts as child porn isn't the issue here, you SAID "giving a sentence because it counts as possession of child porn would be unconstitutional and unjust".) And did you really attempt to claim that "manga is a form of the press"? Dude, regardless of the justice or injustice of this guy's sentence, you just said something PHENOMENALLY stupid! Free speech is not infinite.
I think this guy was very lucky to get off so lightly.
Free speech is infinite. And frankly, pedosexuals are only looked down upon because of the lies that feminists, psychologists (who earn money by treating child sexual abuse 'victims' who aren't really victims) and police (who also make money off this!) are telling on a daily basis.
Some of them are the SAME lies that were told about homosexuals 30 years ago.
don't forget false rape accusation society anon,though some of people are starting to realize about this that one shouldn't just believe words,but still not enough.But hey what should i think of people when they get ready to lynch anyone who is suspicious looking in their neighbourhood,just becouse a girl said she was raped and later she says she lied or did they find out she lied.Anyway society needs looking for more proof and less word believing.
Been reading about many stuff about feminism and such false rape accusations.
@9:40
What part of manga (drawn images) can you call kiddie porn? No real kids duh.
"And frankly, pedosexuals are only looked down upon because of the lies that feminists, psychologists (who earn money by treating child sexual abuse 'victims' who aren't really victims) and police (who also make money off this!) are telling on a daily basis."
I love being told I'm, "mentally ill", it's just such a pleasant label. When children are attracted to one another, that's "normal" enough, but what, at some age you're just supposed to "grow out" of it? Well, sorry I didn't grow up to properly enjoy over-sized silicone filled tits like I'm naturally supposed to.
Last Anonymous realizes the point of this.... it is just someone else saying that you are 'abnormal', which raises the idea of.... what is 'normal'?
It's time to get off the 'normal by societies standards' and realize that society LIES A FUCKLOAD ABOUT WHAT IS NORMAL TO THEM!
Fuck you all! You have all been brainwashed by Satan! Die betrayers of God!
Uhh...freedom of the press relates to publishing, televising, blogging, etc..
The judge didn't say this guy couldn't publish loli manga (or that the publisher couldn't...not like a US judge has any power over a foreign publisher anyway,) the judge said he couldn't own such loli manga, or have it mailed through whoever was shipping it...which still sounds like a violation of freedom of expression
All said, this still doesn't sit right with me. If there was legitimate concern that this guy might be/become a sex offender then I could see the prosecution's point more...but since I don't think this is the case I find it hard to agree with this being criminal in any way (who has time to read all the investigation reports and court proceedings anyway?)
Actually, freedom of the press also equates to being able to view, draw, etc. anything you wish to, as long as you are not forcing (and even in child pornography, the definition of 'forcing' is being stretched') someone else to view it.
The first ammendment only applies within small fenced-off zones, clearly labelled for that purpose now.
Yes you have the right to print the material, but that doesn't mean its not obscene. Guy knew it was not appropriate material.
The reason he was caught was because a customs inspector went through his mail and "read" the books. I find that more disturbing than the case itself. If its not drugs or hazardous material that can easily be sniffed out by dogs or what not move it along.
About the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918, those were headed by Woodrow Wilson. One BIG BIG progressive S.O.B. who didn't believe in our constitution and wanted government control over the people.
Comparing the judge to that is a bit much.
To sum it up, you can print, buy all the loli-sex manga you want, but that doesn't mean its not obscene material.
Following that line of thinking, wouldn't any pornography in publication count as "obscene"? I definitely don't like it when they (the courts, prosecutors, etc) start loosely calling anything they don't LIKE "obscene". Hell, violence falls under that definition -a lot- in the U.S. (not to beat a dead horse), but you will never see someone being prosecuted over owning it.
I'm sorry, but people crying "drawn/fictional depiction of an illegal act" is just silly. I don't care what they say loli manga inspires people to do, you don't burn the forest down to catch a few damn wolves.
"...you don't burn the forest down to catch a few damn wolves."
You're right. In America you "black out the sky" with B52s and napalm the entire forest (and maybe even a few hundred square miles outside it).
That'll teach those S.O.B wolves.
lehnerus2000
don't forget the jury, and that "inspector raper" too who started this circus.
Is Raper a parody on his name or something you think Denn? He could definitely be the arch-nemesis antagonist for our protagonist in the upcoming manga.