The father and grandfather of a 16-year-old girl face murder charges for burying the girl alive, as they objected to her associating with boys and decided to slay her in a so-called “honour killing.”
Police in south-eastern Turkey received a tip-off that a family council was behind the disappearance of a local girl, and found her body buried in a 2m deep hole under a chicken enclosure, sitting with her hands tied. She had been missing since December.
Autopsy reports say the girl was alive when she was committed to the earth, as she was found to have significant amounts of soil in her lungs and stomach, and stress that she was fully conscious:
“The autopsy result is blood-curdling. According to our findings, the girl – who had no bruises on her body and no sign of narcotics or poison in her blood – was alive and fully conscious when she was buried.”
Police arrested both father and grandfather on suspicion of murder.
The father told police he was unhappy that his daughter had male friends. The girl had previously complained to police that her grandfather had beat her for just this reason.
“Honour killings,” usually male relatives murdering daughters or sisters for what they consider to be improper dress, marriage or sexual behaviour, are common in many Islamic nations and amongst some Islamic immigrant populations elsewhere.









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uh wtf
That is simply sick.
Couldn't those idiots bury themselves if they couldn't take the "shame" of their (grand)daughter being a normal, healthy girl?
Also, I just noticed that for some reason it's pretty much always the girls who die and never the men. Does that mean it's okay for boys to have female friends then? If so, something is seriously wrong...
Welcome to reality. This is nothing new :'D.
neither new nor ACCEPTABLE
Now let's make Turkey join the European Union since they are soooo civilized.
Fucking cavedwellers!
I was wondering for a while, how do islam people treat futanari or hermaphrodite?
08:16
do you thing they live past 1 minute?
by the way.. what could have happend to the girl if she did more than talk with boys...
With Death.
They hate gays like hell so i think they would instantly kill them.
"...futanari or hermaphrodite..."
They treat those illnesses with a gentle stone to the face.
Futanaris are the most sacred (and enviable) creatures on Earth...
Especially loli futanaris!!! *shakes fists*
The f*ckers who harm/kill them must be thrown in a deep hole full of
Pyramid Heads...
"thrown in a deep hole full of
Pyramid Heads..."
your mind is a treasure
Allah must be shedding tears at the moment... dumbfucks are running his show.
And relatives are fucking bigots.. They'd choose to save THEIR own worthless souls at the expense of their relative. Hope Allah gives them a big "Fuck You, Burn!" @ their paradise.
this is bullshitting en masse!
east turkey is middle aged, but larger cities also host gay bars. gay is not a crime, as long as lived openly (?)
but the kurdish population in south east (could also be arab descent) tend to kill innocent women (was not virgin, was raped etcetera) and THIS IS NOT ISLAM , morover peoples being brainless and dumb. agree, turkey not in EU as long as its population is so impossible
It's fine to be a boy with female friends. Just don't be surprised when they suddenly disappear.
Cooties is no longer the number one things to watch out for apparently.
Hahaha, nice comment, Anon. Seriously it is a bit sick though, the thought of being slowly burried alive while being completely conscious, and then slowly chocking while eating dirt doing so... must have been a horrible death.
But by your own father?? A family member you place most of your trust in??
Since when did a religion exist to kill people?
If they get off lightly for this act just like rape, this stone age religion is really fucked up.
No matter which country you're in.
So did she ever get laid at all?
"Since when did a religion exist to kill people?" Since they first discovered that people were willing to oppose them.
@ExtrovertedOtaku
Religions have existed to kill people since religion even began to exist.
But for the most part, it's not the religion that's the problem, it's usually people interpreting a peaceful religion in a way that somehow justifies whatever evil they're doing.
For example, the peaceful religion of Islam being convulted in such a way as to start an entire war, killing thousands of innocent people in the name of "God."
Sheep are sheep, and they will believe anything their shepherds tell them, and therefore, do anything their sheperds want them to.
>But for the most part, it's not the religion that's the
>problem, it's usually people interpreting a peaceful
>religion in a way that somehow justifies whatever evil
>they're doing.
I think any religion that can be interpreted in such a way is worth bullshit. And to prevent misunderstandings I will make myself clear; Christianity is bullshit, buddhism is bullshit, hinduism is bullshit, jewry is bullshit and the fucking islam is bullshit too.
People don't need religions to be good to each other, people need a good upbringing to be good to each other. Sex isn't something people should enjoy with only one other human, but are free to do so anyway. And violence shouldn't even be a "last resort" or crap like that. Educate people in morals, not in making profit or looking good in front of some made-up god.
jewry?
Doesn't Japanese take it the other way?
If you loose the honor, you commit seppuku.
And if the family dislikes you, they ask you to do so, or the head of the family commit seppuku.
Honor killings are basically the forced euthanasia form of seppuku. It often seems to be used simply as an excuse for murder, much like the old duels of days past.
Well they wanted for their daughter to be down to earth women lol
@08:22
Not funny.
but at least duels were mostly two equally able people pitted against each other, not 2 men ganging on a little girl
"Honor killing"? Phrfft. That's just stupid.
Yup, that's religion for you.
Yes, it is, which is why anyone with a BRAIN would go agnostic or atheist, with the latter being the preferred route.
And believe in silly, unproven things like light and gravity? I mean, those are still both theories too. But this act is utterly detestable.
Unfortunately, religion is supported by its worst victims. When people are brainwashed from birth to believe that crap, it makes it all the more difficult to escape.
Oh yes, because ALL religions encourage people to do stuff like this. *sarcasm*
Honestly, this sounds to be more of a cultural thing than a religious one. I don't think that the religion itself is the cause.
And let me just remind everyone that EVERY culture has some fucked up tradition, some may just have fallen out of practice. I don't think this is commonplace in Turkey these days, this family is probably just some random nutjobs who still run things the old way, and you'll find people like that in every country.
umm if sex is so wrong for women I just keep wondering how the fuck do they reproduce?
Wait wait wait, did someone just say gravity is unproven? Lets try an experiment. Please go to the third floor, open a window, place computer out of window, and let go. When you get a new computer let me know how that went for you. And about light... so I am guessing you are using a braille keyboard right now. Light exists, the theory is whether it extends in all directions and only one direction is viewable by human eyes. The IDEA of light is not a theory.
Gravity is unproven. Unless, you can explicitly describe what "it" is. >_>
Not too sure about light though.
@08:29
-10 points for failing at sarcasm.
@anon 8:18
Loli slaves, of course.
Proof that they still live in the stone age. I mean, vikings are gone, barbarians are gone, Mongolians raiders are gone even the american indians evolved into civilized folks but still follows some traditions.
Seriously who are they calling themselves "pure" and "righteous" when their actions speaks for themselves.
Not really. eathists are just as bad. They say that there is no god. Like they are sure of it. That is also wrong. They must remember that it defies our current logic, but we have never proven it for a fact that there is no god. I do not say thet there is no god, I say that there probably is no god. The chance is close to 1/inf, but it is NOT 0%. If a god would exist, then he would have non problems hiding himself or being an asshole. (look at the current world to see why he is an asshole.)
@anon 08:18 lol, within marriage :P
Gravity... is if not a known energy or particle, it is a very predictable tendency for masses to distort space and time, enacting a force that draws other masses toward them.
To Yucchi:
"Gravity is unproven. Unless, you can explicitly describe what "it" is. >_>"
Gravity is the perceptible effect by either visual observation or tactile of a large aglomeration of mass in space. What does this mean? Mass, chunking on inside a region of space, causes more mass to fall towards the center of said aglomeration. That's why you "don't fall off the planet", that's why the fucking galaxy has the shape it has, despite traveling at a huge speed through the space and that's why black holes suck up everything. Learn a minimum of physics, you ignorant. You live in a world governed by those laws.
I...see... D:
If that's as much as you know, then I probably need to ask someone else about this.
Thanks anyway~
*In case comment was eaten*
@11:19
Please don't speak as if you're an expert. If you take the most basic of physics classes, gravity is taken for granted, but the "why" gravity works the way it does...I'm pretty sure no one has completely explained that yet.
Unfortunately, it's pretty clear how knowledgeable you are about physics if that's the best you can come up with.
yup
anyone who either doubts gravity or compares gravity to religion is to be sent to elementary school
in case this is your second time in elementary school and you still leave stupid like that, you should be shot
no matter what gravity is, its here
you can read what physicists write about it, test it, you will be forced to acknowledge it
on the contrary, many things written in the bible/koran, the source of our knowledge concerning god, have been disproven and they often contradict themselves
@7:08 and 7:32
Yes, because the Atheism-fueled Nazi holocaust's 11-17 million deaths are so favorable.
Or the 20 million deaths caused by the Atheism-fueled Soviet Communist regime
Or the 65 million deaths Atheism-fueled Communist China.
Blaming all of religion for the actions of radical Islam is like blaming all of Europe for the French.
Oh, and regarding light... Maxwell's laws of Electromagnetism accurately describe what light does and why it behaves that way.
Thanks to that understanding, you have things like that fucking computer in front of your eyes and the internet doing things for you.
Since it is so complicated to explain, I'd advise you to actually READ about it somewhere... But I'm sure you won't... Most likely, you believe it is an act of magic or simply some idiot god's will...
Yucchi: Explain first what your basis is for thinking that. Still, your wording is inaccurate. Gravity's origin is not fully explained. There are theories about its origin, but "unproven" is incorrect. It's there because we perceive it and can even measure it.
On the whole gravity thing... Mass bends space. This curvature causes more mass to fall towards the object that made the original 'dimple'. There is no actual gravitational 'force'... Read some Einstein some time.
And yes, it is PROVEN that mass has this effect, and was proven. The effect mass has on space creates a phenomenon known as Gravitational Lensing, which causes light to bend around an object... Was observed during an eclipse in 1919 in order to prove Einstein's theory.
@TehBoringOne
My wording probably confused a lot of people, and yeah, "unproven" was probably the wrong word choice. ^^;
Anyways, what I meant was, although the behavior of gravity can be explained through quantitative and qualitative analysis, there still isn't a whole lot discovered about "why" it behaves the way it does on the atomic level; unless I missed some big breakthrough, or something (it has been a while).
So, of course, gravity exists as it is one of the fundamental forces in the universe. But for why it exists in the "form" it exists in, that's definitely my question. So yes, the origin of gravity.
Ha ha~ *laughs*
@13:00
Geh, I'm familiar with it, though I might have to review it again. Not being a Physics major, even if it's my strong point, really hampers that. It's purely a hobby~ ^^
Islam teachings prohibit such actions ... before Islam came to the ignorance arabs , the arabs were burying their daughters alive as they see daughters as bad-luck ...
when Islam came, such actions was fought against..
theres no such thing as honour killing in islam, even suicide is prohibited ..
the only killing allowed is for self-defense.
@NoobsDeSroobs
Atheists are wrong because they cannot prove "god" doesn't exist? Unfortunately it is not our duty to prove that the fabrication of a sick mind is just that - a fabrication, but rather your duty to prove that these things are real.
You make as much sense as if I said that I believe in a fluffy mini pink elephant hovering above my left shoulder and that I see and talk to it daily. Prove that my imaginary friend doesn't exist. Oh wait, you can't... Except if I actually believed in that I'd be a lunatic case fresh for the looney bin, while religion is tolerated as something "divine". If one person believes in something imaginary, he's a batshit crazy nutjob - if many people belive in something imaginary, it's called a religion. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
@NoobsDeSroobs
My own faith aside, You are aware that you Can't prove a Negative right?
Really Faith is a personal thing that people need to stop forcing on others. As long as a person can think rationally and are objective about what other people tell them they'll probably do alright for themselves. Extremes on either side of an argument aren't usually good.
Well I am not sure why this has become a debate about gravity, but the correct answer is ....
gravity is still an unproven theory. Why? Well because of the "why" obviously. The theory of gravity attempts to explain WHY a certain effect takes place (i.e. rock falling to earth, light being bent, etc ...). This explanation is still unprovable. All we have been able to do is prove that an effect we describe as gravity takes place ... we have no clue why it does.
Therefore it is a theory. It is very likely that sometime in the next 1000 years the next Newton will come around and prove that our "theory of gravity" was well off base.
Seriously why don't you kids take some actual theoretical physics classes before you get your panties in a twist about something you know nothing about??
And by the way, Einstein is nice, but if you want to get a real education about the universe you should really start with Newton ... as one of my esteemed physics profs pointed out ... Einsteins come around every 100 years, but Newtons only pop up every 1000 years or so ... oh yeah and Newton as well as Einstein both concluded that there was probably a Creator of some sort before they died ... just some food for though ...
*sigh*
Gravity is the best theory for the attraction of mass to other mass. Its not proven.
Light? Well, we see it, but we don't now what it is. We have theories, but they don't explain it properly.
Because, at the root of it all, you cannot prove anything.
How did you ever get to gravity.... *ahem*
Gravity is not unproven. Gravity is an observable local effect to the solar system. It's a basic knowledge which we apply much in the same way as axioms in mathematics.
We've observed it for so long that we can confidently say that gravity remains a constant, and is unaffected by any process we know of.
Knowledge has to start somewhere. The only way we can understand things is by assuming, testing and correcting it.
If we were wrong about gravity, then we wouldn't be able to put up jumbo jets in the air, let alone satellites and people into orbit or even the moon.
Now, the fundamental forces behind gravity is what is unproven. We are literally in the dark about it because we have no way to measure and detect what's going on. And thus some scientists saw fit to invent dark matter which is probably one of the most ridiculous things modern physics.
But despite all, gravity exists and it's experimentally proven. We know it exists, and we know it holds true for as far as we can observe it, which is at least as far as our solar system goes.
Now, this proof obviously applies to small scale systems in similar condition like ours, and this is not fundamental law. For our purposes, the laws of gravity we have are true and they are accurate.
If you want to go and argue that our laws are not fundamental, then you better have some kind of proof. The fact that a unifying theory is missing does not necessary make it false and does not invalidate all the evidence we have.
Gravity isn't just a theory, it's a LAW. It isn't unproven either, it's not fully understood. I'm sure that's what you meant because otherwise your just whining over comments that weren't false at all.
@12:12 Anon
1-Atheism fueled Nazi? Hitler and ALL of the Nazi are CATHOLICS! Where the hell you learned they are atheists?
2-The other deaths mentioned never had the "religious inspiration" from the radical Islam, except if you consider making a God of yourself like Stalin is a religion.
3-I should also note that although atheist, I can live with religion, the problem with atheists in my opinion is that they are focusing on the fact that many brainless people are already that way and religion is just their excuse, however I must ask why all countries where their constitutions works better stand on the grounds that religion should not be together with the law, while never has been a case where a country has their laws mixed with religion working really great or actually quite horribly?
@Yuuchi
Gravity isn't a force. It's believed to be an EFFECT due to the curvature of space-time around masses these days. Also, it's not what happens at "atomic level". Rather, isn't it part of quantum physics?
@...one of the anons who said "Gravity isn't just a theory, it's a LAW."
Umm, no. The theory of gravity is a theory. You're thinking of Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation which really isn't the same thing. One's a theory rooted in Einstein's ideas of spacetime, whereas the other is a convenient equation to deal with what would seem like a "force of gravity".
Anyway, all this random gravity crap aside, this article made me sick. As do most articles about honour-killing. God these people are fucking backwards. They're all going to hell.
All this gravity thing/debate left me with this. Just as Yucchi tried to "ask".
Why gravity?... ehm... we can't ask that.
Why are we here then(I mean all the things in this universe)?... ehm... that's impossible to answer.
What Yucchi was asking was basically a recursion. Enough said.
Um, you assume that your talking about a civilized society. and you know what happens when you assume.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6mtI2CtNac
That's Turkish for you. Do you expect anything less?
The boys are encouraged to have female friends, girlfriends, and get laid. Though preferably it would be with a dirty foreign girl that they meet abroad.
this is called double standards.
even men who fuck men are not recognized as Gay, the passive one is in charge.
well i am not a member of FUCKING TURKGAy anymore (since the ottomans lost, the country became gay, people became dumb, women are killed)
hello islamic law!
In that country men are allowed to fuck with as many girls as they like, they have a lot of women to... Muslim people are crazy. All I want to say.
She won't be talking with boys any time soon...
It's drivel?
Wow, moralfags have swarmed Sankaku, this place is getting less funny and more boring.
wheres equality now???
Protecting the 2D lolis...
lol I'd be soooo happy if they sent Agnes to a Muslim country that should be fun.
otaku can't threaten them with carbombs
Where are the feminist? Hidding.
They're just a bunch a pussies who barks, don't even bite and runs away with their tails between their legs at first sign of trouble.
all religions are cancer to our minds