“Are Women Who Date Otaku Worthless?”

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A woman reporting how she was all but driven to tears upon learning that her lovely young boyfriend was actually an otaku asks whether otaku-dating women are indeed the same lower form life as their paramours.

The woman, describing herself as extremely shy and about 30, relates that she recently began dating a man for the first time:

“He’s 4 years younger than me, he’s boy-faced and really cute, takes care of his hair and clothes – he’s stylish.

He would talk about music, movies, the latest trends, and knew all about them; he was captivating so it was a natural choice to date him. With a younger boyfriend who’s really cute, every day was full of happiness for me.

After 3 months, his true self emerged. He’s an otaku.

Like the sort you’d see at Akihabara. He doesn’t look it, but he’s into anime and cosplay. I think he even goes to their events.

And on his desktop wallpaper he has gross anime pictures – pink and purple haired miko.

When I saw this, I was so shocked, I thought I’d cry!

He’s stylish and was introduced to me by a friend, but after finding out his true nature I’m really afraid people might think I’m the same. I wish he’d told me at the start he was an otaku.

I don’t have much experience of romance, I feel anxious about these things. And I have been wondering about marriage lately too.

My boyfriend is kind, I love him. But if my friends found out about him I get the impression I’d lose worth in their eyes.

Are women dating otaku worth less?”

Naturally this sort of enquiry generated a storm of controversy in response:

“Otaku or whatever, there’s no way anyone loses worth just by dating someone with a particular hobby. In fact, I think a woman who judges a man like that is a person of low worth in the first place.”

“Worth? What is this worth you keep going on about? Is a woman dating a doctor worth a lot more, perhaps? A pilot? A celebrity? I’ve never heard of anyone being worth more because of dating someone like this. So how could anyone be worth less?”

“You’re talking about your worth with a stylish boyfriend 4 years your junior? You’re shy and in your thirties. The one who should be picky is your boyfriend.”

“There’s no such thing as a perfect man. How long are you going to be a little girl dreaming of one? That’s why you never had a boyfriend up until now. If you break up with him you’d be doing him a favour – you’re a very cheap woman.”


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    Comment by SnooSnoo
    21:37 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    She should be glad her boyfriend is like Kousaka from Genshiken. Otaku and still dresses stylishly.

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    Comment by izu taisa
    21:52 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    haha.u bet.and so good at games

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:08 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    “Worth? What is this worth you keep going on about? Is a woman dating a doctor worth a lot more, perhaps? A pilot? A celebrity?"

    YES of course.... look at the future.... look at the $$$

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:18 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also look at all the affairs. A woman's worth to her friends is inversely proportional to her worth to her boyfriend, and for that reason a doctor, pilot or celebrity will leave you locked in a relationship for financial reasons while your man will be jumping beds with women much prettier and more intelligent than you. Most women don't like this.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:26 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol what is a 30+ (a.k.a. non-marriageable in Japan) crying about?

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    Comment by cipher3
    23:06 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    obaa-san! lolz

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    Comment by TheBeast
    23:20 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i think she should care more about the way he treats her and less about how her "friends" see her. if they call her trash because her boyfriend has an interest that they do not share, they weren't her friends to begin with, and are not worth having around. maybe it would be better to tell them and get rid of them if they reject you. then, at least you save yourself the trouble of having people who judge you around every corner.

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    Comment by Domo-Kun
    00:58 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The only time she ever mentions her friends is to say that they introduced her. Which means her friend thought he was a catch too.

    But there you have it guys:
    Outside Japan, you can get away with being Otaku if you look like Kousaka, but no girl in Japan wants to date anyone who likes anime.

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    Comment by DeathCrunch
    01:35 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd agree that she's a stuoid bitch and that theres a strange amount of otaku prejudice in Japan (considering the female nerds in English countries are usually far more in you face and obnoxious).

    But I'd hardly say I can blame her from freaking out seeing (presumably) fetish hentai on his desktop as her first indication of liking anime.
    Silly boy, the idea is to slowly introduce it and brainwash/pressure them into liking it. Worked for me lol.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:53 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Friends who disowned their friend for having a boyfriend who happened to be an Otaku in the first place. It shouldn't even be questionable, then again it's not exactly the same in all cultures, outside of Japan Otakus are viewed as a bit weird, even going to such extents like stalking the Kannagi artist, so I guess it comes down to the severity. Also culture wise as far as I knew, Otaku's aren't simply anime addicts in Japan, they are constantly associated with murderers and sociopaths, so whilst I don't agree with it (the fact of leaving him for such a minor reason) from my P.O.V, I can still see where she's coming from, though she shouldn't in general give a flying fuck what her friends think.

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    Comment by Shanyy
    04:21 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's indeed worthless. Not because who she dates but what dumbness she speaks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    This story is not an unpopular chain of thought. I've seen a few similar stories in the UK

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:13 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    she's stupid looking down on us. she a old hag anyway i think otaku guy should leave her.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:20 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    She's experiencing teenage drama in her thirties. C'mon people, grow up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:16 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking old BITCH and complaining like that ?

    Go kiss shit then!

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    Comment by Chris
    09:57 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Women like this do not get nice clothes, nice boyfriends, nice apartment/house/car/etc to simply please themselves.

    They get these things to impress their peers above all else. It's sad how much sway some people will let other people's opinions hold...

    You can guarantee that if her circle of friends felt that violent criminals were a catch, then she would be trying to date them regardless of her own feelings in the matter.

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    13:30 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Funny thing about this whole equation :

    She tells her friends, they make fun of her and say she should dump him.

    She regrettably dumps him, saying she can't get over the fact he's an otaku.

    She becomes miserable, having noone, and already being as old as she is with almost no dating experience.

    She gets over the otaku thing, goes to get him back, and discovers (way too late), that one of the very friends making fun of her, is now dating her guy. And "sympathizing" with him about what a bitch she was to dump him over something so trivial.

    23:25 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, at least in the future if his boyfriend does cheat on her, it'd be with a 2D girl like Nene from Love Plus and not some 3D bitch like her. Oh wai..

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:01 08/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Like #Chris says, a woman want a guy to show for your friends. I'm already have a girlfriend like that. In private, she was the most perfect girl i already knows, but in public she avoid to date with me together with her friends, and one time, she ignores me completely in the street, and excusing with me later.
    What did I? Kick her out and date with one of your friends, that did not matter to date with me in her and her friends presence.

    Sorry for the bad english, google translator suxx.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:13 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yep Kousaka is godly. "I want only 2D! I will design ero-games!" Kasukabe's reactions are amusing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:05 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uh...Kohsaka never said those things. You're thinking of Madarame, I believe.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:55 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    He did say that, but it was in Saki's dream sequence.

    "2d is better after all." or something along the line.

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    Comment by Kazu_Akuma
    15:44 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    3:55 Anon is indeed correct.

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    Comment by Lilith
    01:09 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Am I the only one that thinks this whole post is a troll?

    Guy acts normal but has an anime wallpaper, means he is unworthy!

    Someone just wanted to cause a ruckus and succeeded, I'm also fairly sure that the person who created this post is a guy :)

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    Comment by Zyst
    01:31 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    *shrugs* Not really, I live in Mexico and people who watch anime are not looked down upon in the slightest. In the first place because it's a RARE hobby, most people don't have access to anime in the first place, and most of the fan subbing is Japanese -> English, not Japanese -> Spanish, and many Spanish speakers are not too good with English. Some of our cosplays are terrible though. For that matter, as long as you act 'normal' within bounds, I've never been rejected by the following "that guy is into anime!". As a matter of fact, I've gotten one of my ex-gfs into watching anime, and now she's a bigger fan than Myself.

    TL;DR: I don't feel that being an otaku should detract the slightest from your appeal, unless you don't bathe for 2 days straight+, or dress up like shit.

    Comment by Tovansky
    03:15 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do you mean by unworthy? You mean all of us who are into anime are abnormal? I go to penn state, one of the top school in United States. I have a lot of friends and I am happy with my life. I like anime and suddenly I am worthless? I have an anime wallpaper and therefore I am worthless? A lot of girls actually like me, but I am still worthless because of that anime wallpaper. They know I like anime, as ONE OF MANY OF MY HOBBIES, but because of the anime wallpaper I am worthless? WOW.. Are you female? I bet you are a bitch on that.

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    Comment by Shuu
    07:15 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ Whoa, calm down and start up your sarcasm detector ASAP. And why the hell would someone who actually thinks like this even be on this site in the first place?

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:26 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    WTF!!!unworthy!?!?!?,,,do you even know what you're saying?i do like anime,but somewhat leading/top in most of my subjects(except that darn french subject),that's why i hate those type of people,do you want to know what i really want when i graduate?i want to be a scientist,create some virus and DESTROY who looks down to anybody,i turned into this because of my stupid classmates discriminating me because i was just an average person back then,now i im one of the top,i wont let that happen again,not to me,and anybody

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    Comment by AWare
    15:41 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^^lol. I'm hearing a flashback of myself. I used to think that way until I realized what one must and must not value in life. Though we may be sometimes obsessive, I consider myself an otaku and see no reason for a girl's friends to see her badly if she dated me.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:33 08/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    She should watch densha otoko and learn from hermes-tan... <3

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:05 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why was this downranked?

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:04 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    welcome to sankaku complex

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    Comment by JSRF
    21:58 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hate it when people judge others for what they like to do in their spare time. Its so fucked up. If she really "loved" him then she would look past all that bullshit in her head and fuck what her friends think.

    Speaking from experience I knew some people before that hung out with me because I drew, bboy, basically had a social life. But once they found out I was into anime and stuff they basically freaked out just like this girl. But thanks to that I made some REAL friends that accept me for who I am.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:53 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's a matter of social status.

    Let's say your mom works in the porn industry. Surely you wouldn't mind, right? She's just doing what she chose to do, right?

    No. You would be ashamed of your mom's profession, as society looks down upon people working in the porn industry. If possible, you'd rather not associate with someone like that.

    In Japan, social pressure is much, much more harsh than it is over here. Otaku are really considered creepy by most of society, and by associating with them, you become a freak as well. If you associate with an otaku, or even become his girlfriend, prepare for strange looks and prejudice.

    I'm not saying she should drop him for being an otaku, but it isn't as simple as you people make it seem.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:36 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cartman: "Mom... if you were ever in a scheisse flick, you'd tell me, right?"

    Cartman's Mother: "Yes, Eric."

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:38 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So the truly strong ones are those who can take that kind of pressure and be happy themselves.

    Good time to learn and become good at handling pressure in predicable and emotion-driven Japanese society.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:43 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "You're mom's a porn actress?! What a slut-whore!"

    "She's introduced me to all her female co-workers. I'm hoping to get a summer intern job there."

    ".... Dude! That's awesome! Hook me up, bro!"

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:51 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wow that woman is trash
    that guy deserves better

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:55 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    He should drop her if this is what she's about.
    If I ever started dating a woman as petty as this, I'd of left her ass on the curb before she could say "But!"

    Stupid whore.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:18 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I duno guys anon 22:53 does have a point, but that is different though in a sense you are comparing how a child feels for his/her parent but in this case it is a significant other and many porn stars have relationships outside the porn industry and are happy.

    Point is job and hobbies are different as well as child to parent feelings vs partner and partner.

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    Comment by Chris
    10:06 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    23:55 Anon

    Poor guy probably doesn't have a clue. Women are amazing at hiding their true feelings and intentions.

    If she does end up breaking up with him, he probably won't even see it coming...

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    23:34 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Disgusting 3D pig. The minute you find out your bf is viewed as scum in society, you dump him?

    My god, no wonder you're 30.

    We are who we are, and like JSRF, I found REAL dependable friends.

    I hope I find someone like Izumi Kanata...but doesn't die at a young age ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:47 16/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    "My god, no wonder you're 30."

    I lol'ed

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:09 11/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As much as I understand the social conditioning of different cultures, It still pisses me off when I read such shallow tripe.

    I am glad that you found people who are "real" JSRF. They are hard to find, but worth having when you do.

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    Comment by Shi nai weaboo
    22:00 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hope she gets run over by one of these
    http://cache-06.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2009/10/500x_efbf3b6407768ce92e55df9e348549ce.jpg

    Oh what sweet poetic justice it would be

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    Comment by Miroku74
    11:02 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The last thing going through her head at that time.... aside from, y'know, the bumper.... would be 'Fuck! I got run over by a clown car!'

    If she cared at all about her boyfriend, she'd be happy she had one, and stop crying about it. As it is, she's kinda past the sell by date by now, isn't she? <_<

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:22 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    was thinking the same thing =)

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:55 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i doubt she would know who Kousaka from Genshiken is.
    Besides, the otaku scum that she seems to have in mind are those shut-in types. she's generalizing otaku which not are all those "scum". she thinks he's an otaku due to a wallpaper?

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    Comment by Spitfire
    23:17 05/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly what i was thinking, first thing i thought when reading the article was Kousaka too.
    meh sad mindset anyways no wonder she didn't have a bf until recently

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    Comment by levin
    00:17 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    no wonder girls runaway when they heard i cosplay.

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    Comment by Kelvin
    00:22 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    HOLD ON A SEC! That otaku guy got a girlfriend???? \o/ And a real one too!!?? /

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    Comment by eksuterru-kun
    01:05 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ooh good comparison!
    she's stereotyping all otaku to be hardcore maniacal hikikomori slobs...
    from her description, she definitely got a good guy there

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:51 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    haha my thought too :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 12/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    In response to this retard in the article

    We are all equally worthless in the eyes of god and the universe.

    Worth is a judgment of the person. A person may be a bum but that bum may mean the world to another person.

    She actually disgust me with how jaded and twisted she fucking is. It makes me sick. How dare she pass judgment, by what right does she have a scale saying who is worth more or less in the world.

    Man I can't stand people that judge others it makes me rage like an animal. Been in a few fights because of it honestly.

    GOD DAMN I AM GONNA LOSE IT. I HATE IGNORANT FKING IDIOTS LIKE THIS!

    that stripper you see in the club and that wealthy business man next to her are the same value in this world. Your self delusions are the only thing that makes you see things differently.









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