Eco-terrorist group Sea Shepherd are bringing legal charges of piracy against the Japanese whaling vessel they recently attacked, after their crippled vessel was abandoned at sea, a loss of over a million dollars, in an incident the group is claiming was an intentional act of piracy by the Japanese.
Claiming that a Dutch crewman was onboard the Ady Gil at the time of the collision, and that the vessel’s nearby “mothership” was registered in the Netherlands, Sea Shepherd intends to press charges of piracy against the vessel in Dutch courts.
Their legal counsel claims to have clear photographic evidence of the Japanese ship violently attacking the Ady Gil, meeting the legal definition of piracy.
With most of the action taking place in international waters, Sea Shepherd’s attacks on whalers are in a legal grey area, though any charges of piracy leveled against either Sea Shepherd or a whaling vessel would be unlikely to result in extradition.
Japanese legislators have been said to be considering whether attackers could be arrested at sea, but given Japan’s generally supine diplomacy this seems unlikely.
Sea Shepherd claim the ruthless Japanese pirates chased them down and aimed their huge ship right at their helpless little craft, intent on causing maximum casualties:
“The Shonan Maru did a quick turn and came in real fast, they were aiming for the cockpit, where the crew were, and fortunately we got the engines in reverse and backed up just enough so that the front of the ship was torn off instead of hitting the cockpit.
They were trying to sink the ship. We put out a mayday distress signal and the Japanese refused to respond – it was a hit and run really.”
The Japan’s Fisheries Agency for their part claim the nimble boat deliberately stopped in front of the much larger and less manoeuvrable whaling vessel:
“You can see that the Shonan Maru is moving to the port to try and avoid a collision and there’s no avoiding the collision with the Ady Gil.
It’s a fast boat, she heads off full steam in front of it and miscalculates. So it’s no wonder that it came to the grief that it has.”
Unlike Sea Shepherd, they have released a number of videos ostensibly supporting their claims.
The Antipodean press has also responded gleefully to chance for some Japan-bashing, eagerly lapping up Sea Shepherd’s melodramatic account of a battle with whale-slaughtering pirates, one rag even calling it a “war”:
“It was the most terrifying moment of my life – when you look up and there’s the bow of a thousand-tonne steel ship hanging above you, about to split you in two. You’re looking death straight in the eye.”
Sea Shepherd’s wealthy backers have already promised a replacement ship, so it seems the dance is set to continue.
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Sea Shepherd: Good intentions. Terrible means.
I reckon those whale huggers deserve it, if whales weren't close to extinct then it becomes a matter of way of life, would you tell a farmer to stop breeding cows cause their big fat and tasty? Maybe if their close to extinction, the method those ppl are taking is rediculously stupid, japan already has a quota that they agreed on, if they want to change that they should argue at the courts, spend millions on lawyers, or they could consider feeding the poor and needy
People don't raise whales on farms.
Japan goes over their quota, and it's public knowledge that their "We are whaling for SCIENCE" is total bullshit. They acknowledge it half the time.
The minkie whale is far from extinct, in fact, they are over populated and are eating up the krill which blue whales (endangered) live on = minkie whales are hindering the recovery of the blue whales
Japanese are doing research on 'whaling' not on whales itself, Killing the minkie is exactly the purpose of the research, to help keep an ecological equilibrium, just like killing kangaroos cause their a pest
They aren't doing research on 'whaling'...
When the Sea Shepherds contacted the whalers and said that they are illegally whaling, the whalers were holding sings that stated that they were collecting tissue samples and that they examined their stomach content.
And that's total bullshit. Their income comes from selling whale meat..., because its illegal they claim they are doing research.
"The minkie whale is far from extinct, in fact, they are over populated and are eating up the krill which blue whales"
I need a source for this info
You have seen the video of the 'eco ship' darting port to starboard of the vessel right? I have seen it and I have utterly no sympathy for that ship. Do you taunt a bear by dancing in front of it? How about a bull? That's what those 'eco pirates' were doing. Imagine a non-muslim burning the Koran in Iran.
"I need a source for this info"
I don't know how biased the information is, but:
http://www.icrwhale.org/WhatsResearchAbout.htm
"The amount of scientific data gathered by Japan's research program is extensive, including: There is a large and increasing number of young Minke whales; There are at least two separate breeding groups of Antarctic Minke whales, whit slightly different genetic make-ups and geographical distributions; Female Minkes reach maturity at about 7-8 years and reproduce about once per year; Minke whales consume about 220kg of feed daily; and Contaminant levels in Antarctic Minke whales are very low (in contrast, contaminant levels in the Arctic are high). Much has been learned about the feeding habits of whales through analysis of stomach contents and other tests. These tests indicate the blubber thickness of whales has decreased since the 1970s. It is suggested this may be due to decreased food intake caused by growing competition for food between whale species. In fact, scientists now believe the population recovery of the endangered Blue whale is being damaged by the increasing number of non-endangered Minke whales. They believe that to help endangered species we must manage other species that are abundant in number. This is called the multi-species management approach. Exactly the same principles apply in Australia's annual cull of kangaroos."
huurrr durrr worse place to get that info from moron that's the organisation that acts as the very front for the whalers
"huurrr durrr worse place to get that info from moron that's the organisation that acts as the very front for the whalers"
So your sources that refute the information will be posted shortly? I wait with bated breath.
It's illegal for .org, .gov, and .edu to publish false information. It's a credible source.
lol link to a site that is run by the whalers themselves. 'Cause I know when I want to research a subject I go out and kill them and then sell them to eat.
Yeah right. To help the whales Japan needs to kill them for info.
Total bullshit.
Ban all commercial use like meat selling and scientific interests will suddenly vanish.
lol "bringing legal charges of piracy against the Japanese" says the guy who owned the boat with the picture of a skull and pitchfork.
"It's illegal for .org, .gov, and .edu to publish false information. It's a credible source."
You're telling me that my government doesn't tell me blatant lies? bwahahahahahahahaha! Who would be able to police that policy worldwide anyways?
lol, the whaling "industry" of Japan isn't even profitable. it's losing money.
Why don't they contribute to anti piracy efforts in Somalia. It makes more sense that way. Most of our countries are wasting manpower and national funds to keep them safe.
Everyone knows that the most entertaining solution would be to: SINK IT!
Pot, meet kettle. These arsebags are trying to pull one of those car crash manuvers on a ship they ran into. The Dutch won't go through with it, unless they really want to have poor foreign relations w/ Japan.
"huurrr durrr worse place to get that info from moron that's the organisation that acts as the very front for the whalers"
You could be a tad more convincing if you didn't resort to ad hominem. Attack the idea, not who tells the idea, otherwise you end up even worse than those you are attacking.
They're, not their.
In what aspect is whaling different from fishing?
Mink whale IS NOT endangered species. There are tens of thousands of species deserving the conservation efforts and money SS is wasting. Not to speak, that the only meaningful conservation is a conservation of ECOSYSTEMS, not single species.
humans have no negative effect on the ecosystem, T/F?
Humans number in the billions, while creatures of similar size number in the thousands, T/F?
"humans have no negative effect on the ecosystem, T/F?
Humans number in the billions, while creatures of similar size number in the thousands, T/F?"
LMAO are you saying that we should start to farm humans as well? maybe get rid of a million or two like Hitler, or a bit less in number like Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, even Alexander the Great maybe? Hey even better, lets start a third world war, I bet half the world population will be wiped out, or maybe get the Russians to drop Tsar bomb somewhere. 0.<~
but if any of you studied the most basic of economics regarding supply and demand...
killing off the demand is a much more efficient way of "protecting" endangered species. it can be also known as "the plan to get rid of all the rich guys who want and can afford whale meat, then the whalers will no longer have a source of income to sustain their whaling~"
I think Anonymous on 04;18 is right, they are just giving some fucking excuse so that they can kill whales. I believe that it is better to let nature take its on course rather that killing *Willie* wales or something to maintain equality in the reproduction line
It's not natures problem anymore, during the whaling boom 150 years ago humans have already screwed up the system thus leaving only 2000 bluewhales and 500,000 minkes fighting for the same source of food, do the math, what's gona happen if you leave it to nature
we sowed the seeds, natures not gona fix it for us
Ha,do you think thats the correct way to save the whales?
think about this: there are 1,166,079,217 humans on India and only 1,300 tigers,the human is destoying the place were the tiger live.
according with your theory:we should have to start killing the people of India because they are killing the animals?
killing the minke whales for that reasson is stupid, we are not helping the whales
sounds like a good idea actually, i like tigers more than indians anyways..
Killing off the humans would be the solution but there is only so far people will go to preserve another species like the blue whale. The minke is an animal like the kangaroo which is acceptable to reduce the numbers of unlike humans.
O! gammon how naive to you people are. Do you honestly think that those Japanese whalers don't kill endanger whale species?
So what's the best solution? Sabotage whalers so they get stranded out at sea? I bet the ss wouldn't have done shit either if it were the whalers who sent for an SOS
maybe the torpedo is the best idea
you can see from the video the batmobile clearly speeds up so that it will be struck. They were not going in reverse.
Nope...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rar9zxH1kts&annotation_id=annotation_558937&feature=iv [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rar9zxH1kts&annotation_id=annotation_558937&feature=iv]
wow... from that angle it really does look like the Shonan Maru intentionally turned into the Ady Gil. lol, not good for the Japanese defense.
It's one thing to film a video from Shonan Maru's point of view, it's another to film from a vessel in speed, moving port of Shonan Maru's bow. Especially against a featureless horizon like international waters. Only the points of view from the involved parties are to be trusted.
Another thing, a big ship can't easily turn like what that video gives you the impression of. But I wouldn't expect Americans who've never been on the ocean to realise that. Ady Gil clearly speeds up as the Shonan Maru is passing by, which is also indicated by the foam forming by Ady Gil's propellers. They had all the chances in the world to escape from any potential impact with a boat as fast as they claim, but for publicity reasons, of course it's in their interests to stage a ramming.
You can see the whaler make a turn perfectly clear.
man, your post is full of bullshit, I really think u never saw before a real life boat how much fast can turn, off course the sea shepperd guys could evade any time, but if they has been hit, is shonan maru's fault only...
and why the shonan maru didn't help the crew of ady gil after impact??? is illegal to run away as they do.
I agree. They clearly accelerated when they were getting closer to the Japanese ship. This rapid lawsuit of theirs is a complete joke, especially considering how the Japanese crew released videos that can pretty much secure their victory in court.
Normal hippies I can tolerate and often agree with, but these incompetent cash dumpsters are a waste of everyone's time. If they really wanted to help the dolphins, they'd give up this worthless effort and let the politicians get this problem solved. Their tactics only serve to annoy the Japanese whaling efforts and make other anti whaling groups look like idiots.
If they want to drive around in a fancy boat, shooting projectiles and playing pirate, they should go to Somalia and try to save some humans for once.
Yeah, Shonan Maru is turning, but Ady Gil is also speeding up. There would never be an impact if the two things didn't happen at the same time. Oh, and I see by your posts that you are just another vegetarian hippie, so you're even more biased than I am.
Big ships do not turn like cars, they turn like trains, large slow turns.
Of course, if you didn't have preconcieved notions of what happened, you might actually watch the videos and look for clues from all of the angles.
For example:
There is visible prop wash coming off the back of the small ship, which increased just before they got hit. I.E. they were going forward and increasing their speed.
The prop wash of the large ship can be seen to be turning to the left behind the ship when the camera pans up before the end of the video, which means they were turning away from the small ship.
The 3rd party perspective from the other ecoterrorist ship is meaningless since they are obviously going at speed counterclockwise around the other two ships, which gives the illusion of the large ship turning.
My non crash inspector finding:
The small ship was planning on cutting in front of the large ship like they are on video doing multiple times, but the captain of the ship misjudged and got run over.
The eco-terrorist vessel was clearly seen attempting to foul the propellers of the whaling ship, which is accomplished by dropping a rope in the path of an oncoming ship...
Wow! Its like the AT-AT´s and the speeders! I can imagine the guys in the batmobile... "ONE MORE PASS"
man, assuming it gets past hearing...the judge is going to have a hard time understanding this case...
"so the ship with the pirate skull and crossbones is the pirate ship?"
"no your honor, that's the plaintiff"
"..... so the pirates are suing a whaler for piracy??????"
but with all the douchebaggery going on, i'm reminded of the robbery victims being sued by the robbers and actually being convicted....
I'm going to have to side with the Eco's on this one whales are critically threatened and Japan does not need whale meat to survive.
It's simply an industry for a luxury product.
The species just cannot sustain industrial harvesting they reproduce too slowly.
If you want to eat whale meat then go get it in a traditional manner like the Inuit, and obey quota rules as if they were the gospel.
Also no poaching of animals from international waters.
If I made a deer harvesting machine I'd be convicted rightfully of poaching.
This is why I have no problems with the Inuit harvesting them.
Protip: Whales are not just one species.
In English species is like the word sheep the same word can mean one or many.
Specieses would be incorrect.
I meant plural as in none of the whale species are particularly fast breeders.
Some such species as the minke can sustain some hunting but not large scale commercial factory harvesting.
BTW the minke is not one species but two.
The common Minke found in most oceans and the rarer Antarctic Minke.
They are not like salmon where each whale produces hundreds of offspring.
Instead they reproduce about the same rate as same as the black rhino or one calf every two to three years.
Gestation for the minke is shorter about 10 months but whales in general often will not breed until the young are weened.
If there has been a lean year they will often skip breeding entirely for that year.
Calves also are subject to natural predators such as Orca which are not whales at all but are instead are the largest members of the dolphin family.
Large sharks also can occasionally take a young minke.
Marine biology is something I've had an interest in since I was little.
Minke whales are not even a threatened species. Some estimates put them at 800,000 in the wild.
key word: "estimates"
"estimate" does not mean, "wild guess". Even if it was off, it wouldn't be off by a huge amount.
Hmmm.... a deer-harvesting-machine. That could be good; there's a reason why in some U.S. states deer are called "meadow-maggots".
But there are deer-hunting limits, and they are enforced (boyyyyy can you get a big fine from the Department of Agriculture and Wildlife if they catch you over your limit, or without deer tags [a kind of permit], or hunting out-of-season, etc.).
The "Sea Shepherd" people are just like EN and various other groups, who have taken an issue and turned it into an extreme religion.
As to whaling, the solution is "obvious", though un-acceptable to the ecd-religionists: genetically modify whales into weapons as in the anime "Blue Submarine #6".
The economic incentive to whaling goes away when the whales gain the ability to shoot first.
Pretty intentions, retarded mentality and hilarious execution.
For those who believes the Sea Shepherd's claims, here's a list of their past violent acts:
http://www.highnorth.no/library/movements/Sea_Shepherd/se-sh-re.htm
Sea Sheperd ARE the REAL pirates!!!
people tried to be nice and were totally ignored . only way to get heard is to crack a skull or two