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Valkyria Chronicles 2, already derided by fans for abandoning the PS3 in favour of a cheap PSP sequel, has attracted even more opprobrium for completely abandoning the storyline of the previous game/anime, with the new game blithely resurrecting no less than four characters who died in the previous story.

Naturally this disclosure imparts spoilers:

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Zombies?

Whilst including bonus characters from other franchises might be quite normal, including much loved characters who died in the course of the main storyline in a game ostensibly set in the same universe, and after the events of the original, is a severe stretch at the very least, and sacrilege at worst.

It seems Sega could scarcely have done more to alienate fans of the original series, whom it has already openly scorned as being surplus to its demographic requirements; with Sega having already said any commercial failure will likely scotch any proper sequels, it seems the franchise will be over despite scarcely having begun.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    18:10 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    these are characters you can unlock by buying the anime dvds or by unlocking them within the game..NOT zombies or any crap like that.

    people should read comments before coming up with a hasty generalization x.x

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:35 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I thought these were optional characters you can use when u have a save from the last game.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:31 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow. What kind of a quack writes these articles anyway? What's so outrageous about it all if you don't even know for certain that they came back to life canonically? Also, the plot is a direct sequel. They haven't 'abandoned' the plot.

    I always thought Sankaku had quackjob reporting, but this is just new lows. Way to have NONE of the facts straight. Terrible article.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:03 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, there is nothing to discuss. The article is crap, and make for trolls. Author = trollmaker =)

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:00 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't get it. Why would they change the feel of the game if they got a good yet unexpected response. Too many male fans? Considering that most gamers are male is this a bad thing? Were they really hoping to break into a new demographic of female gamers with a military strategy game? If so, Maybe they should have made Selveria's boobs more realistic, girls are really self conscious about these things...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:02 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually statistically the amount of gamers has been found to be approximately the same with there being slightly more male gamers than female (something like 54, 46) however I believe those stats count for the more casual demographic as well so not entirely relevant when it comes to Valkyria.

    And for the record I am female and thought Selvaria was fricking awesome, there is no need to change her to attempt to appeal to a female demographic. We don't think about our breasts anywhere near as much as men tend to.

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    Comment by shikakucomplex
    20:37 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    SEGA-franchise always like this.

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    Comment by Abel Liegod
    12:49 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ウソ!!!!! ಠ_ಠ

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:38 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you look at the trailer, the game play at least seems interesting. I wouldn't blow it off yet..

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:06 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gantz strikes again!

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:05 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well I donno what to belive. Half of the readers are saying sankaku is printing bullshit right now... kinda disappointing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:15 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking are you serious with this post. After recent posts by sankaku this about as much as I can stank. Fuck this site. See ya, Fucking troll.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:51 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nice. I want those preorder bonuses.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:04 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unless you have proof that these are story characters and not bonuses (Selvaria was already confirmed to be a bonus, incidentally) then this is a terrible post.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:49 10/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As stated by other users the "dead" characters are simply bonus features with no place in the game's plot. The fact that they are mostly unlocked using codes should make that point fairly obvious.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:32 10/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    what the?

    this is like square bringing Aeris back to life for some "FFVII-2 volleyball chronicles"..

    ugh i just don't know anymore ¬_¬

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    Comment by Castian
    22:18 20/06/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dumbest move ever

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    Comment by chad001
    06:37 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    WTF? Does anyone else notice that Maximilian is in a GALLIAN uniform? And that he look so awkward with it?

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    Comment by akuma2002
    21:22 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Quite a surprise, but not a bad one in the end... I don't read japanese, so maybe they have different names, and so we can assume they are different people^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:57 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why Valkyria Chronicles 2 attacked by morons? It's a very good game, but some idiots thinks about "too many male players" or "why not ps3". And that's how this posts made up. It's just some shitty opinions of bumbass. Of course you need some official comments from SEGA to make your post reliable. But in the end, shit is shit, and nothing gonna chnage it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:04 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sankaku Complex, the world's finest fact-optional news source.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:29 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    wait a second, I thought that title belongs to one of the two cable news channels?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:39 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    finally isara's a playable character :p too bad not for ps3, bah, they should have just kept spamming dlc

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:46 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So is this supposed to be some sort of expansion

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:20 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Selvaria without Ruhm? Why even bother bringing her into the game?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:30 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I googled a while...looks like those characters are a little bonus...you can use them in the battlefield...but they are not mentioned in the main story line (yup...there's no "Hey Welkin...I have your sister in my unit")

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:28 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i'm playing the first valkryia chronicles right now and it looks like i will be stopping at the first one since sega has decided to screw up a perfectly good franchise which they seem to like doing these days.

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    Comment by makkun
    12:32 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hope they make the PS3 version too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:19 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maximillion was a Lancer? I never knew, still on the one where i have to fight jaeger on the bridge

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:11 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Prequel, alternative route of the universe of zombies indeed.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:39 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Selvaria owns

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:52 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^This, but i would be alot more happier if she did come back alive

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:43 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Could be a flashback scene. You never know.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:46 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The 3 main characters in this sequel sound like idiots, conette is typical moeblob and the other 2 guys sound like they have mental problems.

    Sega seem hell bent on ruining this franchise

    The edy attachment are also back, aswell as alicia and welkin.

    Basically story is the least of their priorities, fan service is all they care about.

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    Comment by Fox89
    07:05 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also, that guy at the top is called "Farudio"! Obviously a completely different character! ^_^

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    Comment by makkun
    12:30 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Isn't Faldio always like that? How's he a different character?

    I only lol at him carrying a lance. I thought he is supposed to be a scout type character.

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    Comment by Dago2682
    06:49 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wasn´t this supposed to be some sort of bonus to preorders or something like that?.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:00 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is.
    So I don't see any problems here like the article wants to point out...

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    Comment by Fox89
    07:03 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. It's a whole lot of jumping to conclusions based on a few screenshots, when there's no reason to believe these characters are plot relevant at all.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then maybe you should have said something like that in the article instead of the misleading bullshit you actually did.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:28 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i guess people never learn. and it is like this for years already.

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    Comment by Artefact

    When I saw the criticism of these characters being trotted out as random character service, I thought it was a relevant and valid point.

    Even more so considering Sega has dumped the original platform, setting, character designs, etc...

    Taken by itself it would indeed be an overstatement to say they are tossing the original, but in the context of their other actions things are rather different.

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    Comment by TehBoringOne
    15:21 10/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uh... Isn't the character designer for BOTH the original and the seemingly bad sequel the same? Raita Honjou?

    If so, then there is no change in character design... Well, except for putting two "prettyboys" in the spotlight.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:52 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    well the article titles on sankaku all try to illicit controversy so people will be interested

    bending the truth, or at least putting it in a certain view with the right vocabulary is used quite commonly here

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    Comment by susume
    06:48 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    the four shown above die at some point during the original game
    sorry if this spoiled it for anyone

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    Comment by makkun
    12:25 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artefact already says that in this article. Read carefully.

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    Comment by Asolite
    06:44 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wait wait wait... i'm not very up to date with this game, so can someone tell me where this happens within the storyline of the first one, if related at all? Because if it is after first one, a lot of things are out of line...

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    Comment by Fox89
    06:53 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    As far as I'm aware it is supposed to be a sequel to the first one. Which would make sense given a screen shot with Welkin and Alicia together I saw on Kotaku a while ago.

    But I think these characters are probably unlockables in a skirmish mode, or something like that. Even if they DID want to bring back dead characters and reboot the franchise to some degree, why would Maxamillian and Selvaria be wearing Gallia uniforms (which they are not in their portraits in the top right of the screen).

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    Comment by Fox89
    06:41 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is this a part of the main campaign though, or characters that can be used in multiplayer/skirmish mode?

    I agree if they've been brought back for the actual PLOT then that is rubbish, but if it's just in additional modes then that's something a bit different.

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    Comment by funsohng
    14:31 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    These are unlockable secret squad members. They are playable in main missions, but do not take part in actual plot of the game. think of them as Skies of Arcadia cameos in the first game

    Alicia Melchiott (Anime): requires the purchase of anime DVD
    Ramal: Requires the purchase of anime DVD
    Alicia Gunther: Pre-order bonus
    Welkin Gunther: Pre-order bonus
    Selvaria Bles: Pre-order bonus
    two manga-original characters: the passcode is in the last chapter of the manga (forgot which manga series it was)
    Isara Gunther: PSP-to-PS3 connection save file transfer (if you have the first game completed, connect your psp to ps3, and you will receive a passcode to unlock this character)
    Faldio: same as Isara
    Maximillian: same as Isara

    Alicia and Welkin do come out as cameoes in the main plot as well, as an older version (and Alicia is extremely sexier) of the two which fits the timeline. Welkin i think had no connection to the academy or was a teacher, and Alicia is the owner of the school bakery.

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    Comment by hALOTOO
    11:56 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do you know which DVD vol is necessary to play Alicia and Ramal ?

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    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    07:37 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Geass did it. Gundam 00 did it.

    Why should it be such a fuss when Valkyrie does it too? :D

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    Comment by TehBoringOne
    15:17 10/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gundam 00 did not. The Lockon that appeared in the second season was NOT the original. Did you not see the series?

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    Comment by Fox89
    07:57 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I dunno about those two, I've not seen them, but I don't think you could get away with it in the Valkyria Chronicles universe :). The rules of the world they set themselves in VC1 just don't allow for it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:25 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    There were no asspulls back then, after all.

    Comment by Schrobby
    10:47 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, dumb otaku bought the same Haruhi episode eight times, so they expect there are enough dumb otaku who will buy that game with dead charas.

    They are probably right, too.

    Haruhi S2 showed everyone that even bullshit sells, so why try to improve? Sad, really...

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    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    09:21 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The asspulls are as old as Christianity. Think back to Jesus Christ...
    A man nailed to the cross with a stabbed wound, left for several days to die if not from intense pain, bleeding or heat then from thirst for sure, is buried and a heavy stone is put over the grave.

    Job's done, Romans go get some beer. And then on Sunday - zombies.





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