Square Enix: Final Fantasy XIII “Last of its Type”

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In what may be a tacit admission that the Final Fantasy series has become too staid even for Square Enix, CEO Yoichi Wada has said he thinks the company needs to move on from the established Final Fantasy formula.

In his recent Edge interview, he has this to say:

That period [the start of franchises like Biohazard and Metal Gear] really set in stone a certain style of Japanese development, which some might say has reached its culmination with Final Fantasy XIII.

How do you think these kinds of big-budget, long-in-development Japanese games stand up in the current climate?

I believe Final Fantasy XIII is going be something special, and that it’s going to be well received by the audience.

But whether we are going to continue to internally create this type of game remains to be seen, because I actually feel that the team that was involved with Final Fantasy XIII should next move on to create and generate some ‘next generation’ forms of play.

Internally and externally I feel there’s an expectation of Square Enix to offer something new, and I really think that the Final Fantasy team could create something completely different, but at the moment they’re strictly catering to the particular audience they have now.

Combined with his admission that he would consider having Final Fantasy titles developed overseas, and that he is personally a fan of western games, to say nothing of sacking large numbers of Japanese employees whilst procuring a western developer, it appears some big changes may be in store for both Final Fantasy and Square Enix.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    10:48 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I get mixed feelings when i read this. I enjoy knowing that Final Fantasy will not get stagnant with these proposed changes, I just hope Square will not destroy the franchise in a effort to do something too outlandish.

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    Comment by Ken
    17:26 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    the end of Square Enix?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:58 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You missed it.... Happened already when FFXII got released....

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    Comment by Darkrockslizer
    19:54 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're just starting to admit that simply giving unlimited amounts of budget for a game development won't give them unlimited profit and success as well.

    FF VII was one of its kind, and it was popular not because it featured the first rpg combat characters in 3D.

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    Comment by Yoshii-kun
    20:35 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    What? That's it? The End?

    Then we'd have nothing else to troll about... >.>

    Guess someone from SE saw the other trolls on SC... =)

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    Comment by BlaqCat
    00:53 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Indeed. But they needed to be a bit faster on the uptake. It might well be too late now (with all the negs FF XIII has been getting).

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:31 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey... I liked XII.

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    Comment by Dreck
    04:37 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I liked XII as well... but it doesn't feel like an FF game when I'm playing it. And X was shit to me as well - personally I wish they'd go back to the original formula and continue from there. I don't know about the rest of your guys - but I was always more interested in seeing what sorta equip and lvl up system with skills that they would offer with the same turn based side vs side palette that they've had going on for years before 12, rather than see a completely different battle system. It personally started going downhill for me at the release of 10 tbh 8*(

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:18 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    more like end to final fantasy as we know it, for better or worse...

    i certainly hope for the better

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:53 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So it is finally FINAL?

    Someone had to say it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:21 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wasn't there a joke about this in Burn up W! ?
    Some terrorist group demanding FINAL be added to a game's name.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:11 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    me versus is still technically gona be last XD if this is the last time square is gona develope an ff.

    in all honesty quality started to downgrade when enix got introduced.

    i mean mana series up to legend was good

    ff was up to 9 (10 was made by enix but it was at the early stage of the merger thats why it had 50 50 lovers and haters).

    breath of fire another rpg with a following.

    the two chrono games trigger and cross.

    kingdom hearts 1 had a good story corny since it is disney fused with ff but still good then 2 came sure it had better gameplay but how much u wana bet u skipped more then half of the cut scenes while replaying it

    do the math enix killed the good ol jrpg formula

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:34 11/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    breath of fire was made by capcom...

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:40 08/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i don't think versus is the final one since ff14 - which is an MMORPG is already one the way ...

    there are trailers and gameplay trailers going in Youtube already : P

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:01 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wish they would have said what they are changing. Instead of leaving us to worry what they might do to the next one.
    Either way, i just hope i'm still alive when .hack//SIGN becomes real.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:51 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The truth is.
    If we have to worry about what they gonna do to FF then it is already to late for them to assure us. We lost our faith in developers of final fantasy and it saddens me I in all probability will not see a great games like those in a long time.

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    Comment by Gradius
    02:30 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    When hack//SIGH becomes real, I'll only think in go after the hot lolis and fuck them. I wouldn't care about the game or anything else.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:11 10/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Though at the same time, seeing how often the mario series is faithful to its old material, one wonders if they actually would do better to follow an older formula of FF. Well, I guess we'll see with whatever they're coming out with next

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:51 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Good or bad, a change is still a chance to shake up the stagnant market.

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    Comment by AsakuraZero
    10:56 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    there is a chance to end killing the market =3

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    Comment by Shi nai weaboo
    11:03 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe we'll see the FINAL fantasy?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:22 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nope. Final Fantasy will continue for as long as people exist that know what it is.

    Even if they change direction with the traditional numbered games, they'll still be releasing Tactics games, spinoffs from the numbers (In the style of Versus), which might be JRPGs...

    I'd be one of the last to say this, but the video game industry has some stagnant and overly reused areas. The typical JRPG format being one of them. Rehashed sports games, rehashed shooters and basic hack and slash games, not to mention horrible movie tie(cash?)-ins.. and kid's games...

    I seriously believe we need to clone Hideo Kojima, hit each clone in the head in a different way, and see what innovation comes out of it. That man is legendary.

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    Comment by makkun
    12:14 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm hoping that there will be a day when Final Fantasy left the JRPG style and instead using western style Action RPG elements such as free roaming, non linear storyline and karma system just like Oblivion or Gothic series, or even Fable series. It might be good that way.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:19 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    People like you, whom actually consider Hideo Kojima as the apex of writing, are the reason the entire video game industry has gone the same shitty route as movies and television.

    The mass media seeks to appeal to such retards, but thankfully the intellectuals can depend on independent sources. Of course we will remain ever resentful at the budget of the mass produced garbage in comparison to original productions.

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    Comment by hiei
    12:58 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you speak the truth bro, but most of these readers are western idiots that cream at the thought of crap like Oblivion,Fable, and othere western produced bullshit games so these jerk-off's are not going agree.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:26 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Final Fantasy is to JRPGs what Oblivion, Fable, et al. are to WRPGs.

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    Comment by Van-d-all
    14:02 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've played all FFs from V to XII as they came and I-IV somewhere in between, and always considered them the best RPG series in history of gaming, especially because of it's unique jRPG feel, so for one, despite of how pitifully bad FF XIII seems to be based on its reception, its a franchise I will surely miss. Damn, I don't want another Fable, that's for sure.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:07 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Unique JRPG feel? When they're all so similar and there's dozens of copycats?

    What is "Final Fantasy" supposed to be anyway, since the main games have no connections beyond superficial stuff like chocoboos and the summoned monsters? It's just a marketing label, like what Gundam has become. Trash it and do something else.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:40 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I honestly couldn't care less about the "JRPG Feel".

    I would like to consider myself a serious RPG gamer, I'm the kind who would play Last Remnant by gathering 400+ chain kills in a single battle to grind after getting The Seven.

    What keeps me playing JRPG is more variety that comes from having a large portion of the industry churning out RPGs, trying to make new interesting mechanics, new forms of combat systems, that's what's fun.

    But sadly, there are a good amount of rehashes in this industry that we all love, but that's inevitable. All we can do as gamers is to support the companies we love by buying the games that actually deserve our money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:20 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I just hope it will not reach "final fantasy 40" or so....

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:13 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Saying "I am serious RPG gamer because I play Final Fantasy" is very wrong. Arguments can be read in earlier flamewars about FFXIII vs Bioware.

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    Comment by X_FANG
    11:06 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    or give more profit...

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:01 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let's hope something good comes out of this.

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    Comment by Palmtop Tsundere
    11:02 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Square Enix is following Capcom's lead. As Megaman left the side-scrolling shooter genre, Final Fantasy will leave the JRPG genre.

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    Comment by Shi nai weaboo
    11:05 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Final fantasy racing sucked though

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    Comment by AoCanada
    11:11 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mega Man left the side-scrolling platformer genre? When the heck did that happen?

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    Comment by El Chaos
    11:51 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    PT is talking about the Legends, Battle Network and Star Force series.

    Although, from the sound of it, Wada seems to actually be considering moving the whole main series to another genre, rather than starting a new series belonging to a different (sub-)genre.

    ... Or I don't know. His words are quite nebulous.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:17 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    They would fail if they switched genre since they have made non-rpgs before and they either fail outright or are nowhere near as popular as the rpgs. It is more likely they will mix in some western rpg concepts and create some new features and concepts of their own to try and change Final Fantasy. Whether they do a good job of it remains to be seen. One thing I expect is that future Final Fantasy will probably be less linear and be less of a movie.

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    Comment by helba
    18:19 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, less quality, more manly fist-bumping and lasers.

    R.I.P., FF.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:04 10/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    uh, games that are too much linear are boring, open world with decisions afecting it might be the way to go.

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    Comment by Kai89
    11:14 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Square just might be getting their shit together, this can be something great if they don't do anything to outlandish with their next Final Fantasy. People are tired of seeing the same game systems repackaged and calling it "ground breaking" material.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:50 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    horrible idea, I think in these times every single game genre is basically headed in the same direction with series like Biohazard and metal gear solid both turning more action-orientated rather than keeping the parts that made them fresh and interesting to begin with. Although I understand that conforming to the times is something that is in the best interests, profit-wise, for the developers, losing these unique qualities will only serve to harm the original fanbase and though these new, westernized games will undoubtedly receive a wider audience overseas, it comes at the price of destroying what took years of dedication and imagination to build up.

    Maybe I'm just being too nostalgic but I don't feel any love for these new action-laden games. since when did having eye-raping graphics, gratuitous gunfire, and corpses of dark ethnicity strewn across the floor make a good game? I know games can be good without any of those things (though good graphics are usually a plus). I don't want to be given occasional chances to be stealthy in a stealth game, i want to be given occasional chances to shoot things up instead. sure it'll be difficult for certain people but then again those certain people have no place in playing these games if they don't have the patience or will power to get past those parts in the first place.

    /rant

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    Comment by hiei
    13:04 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    well said man....well fucking said.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:21 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Shut up fucking micro pennis the yellow game industry is over so micro pennis deal with that hahahha asshole

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:19 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    America, land of the stupid hahahahaha.

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    Comment by helba
    18:55 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    THANK YOU.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:11 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    unfortunatly, I see games on 50 gig blu ray disks, as being minigames to the internet... since my laptop hard drive has 320 gig, that means I can have 4 blu ray disk games on my hard drive....meaning I can play one that is actiony, one that is rpg, one startegy and one stealth, and inbeetween, talk about them on the net...

    meaning they are minigames to the internet, since I'm using the internet more than the games, to talk about stuff, and read about stuff.

    if we all see all the games like little instances of gaming inbetween internet sessions, instead of something to do instead of the internet, then we can call them essentially minigames, while we play on the internet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:03 12/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    BWAHAHAHAHAHA... what?

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:13 09/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you speak the truth dood.

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    Comment by AsakuraZero
    14:50 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    leaving the side-scroll method from the main series was teh WORST error from capcom and plus that they added the shittiest stories ever on that damn fucking megaman network series and whatever came out after those dammed games

    MMZ and MMZX were on the spot (ZXA was a bit bad imo)

    and i have played every damn MMX (i skipped the original saga exept MM3).

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    Comment by helba
    19:35 08/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You missed out; MMV and VI were sublime.

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    Comment by Dvv
    07:08 28/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Technically they never left it since they still do side-scrolling games, you get at least 1 a year from them.







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