“I heard most japanese people are an atheist. But why is crime in Japan lower than in many Christian countries?

why are they well-mannered?”

The problem of atheist crime and Christian moral perfection is certainly a vexing one.

The illiterate and pathetically ignorant drivel posted on Yahoo! Answers in response to this question is hardly worth reproducing here, but 2ch’s response is as edifying as ever:

“Wrong: Atheists.

Right: Polytheists.”

“Because the eyes of other people are more scary than those of God.”

“The Sun watches down on us so we can do no wrong.”

“Because we don’t have any religious wars.”

“Isn’t it because religion itself breeds violence?”

“We’re not really atheists though. And what’s called an atheist overseas is practically a cultist, like some kind of atheist religion.”

“You can’t watch late night anime in prison. That makes for a polite society.”

“Piety destroys character.”

“It must be genetic. Just look at those damn Koreans!”

“Because we’re Japanese.”

“Religion serves as an expedient means of making the uncultivated or ignorant obey the law.”

“Because you can only believe in yourself.”

“’They’re clever because they eat lots of fish.’

I don’t think Japanese are smart, but I do think the person who wrote this is an idiot.”

“As expected of someone from a place where they don’t each much fish, he’s pretty stupid.”

“If you compare them to America, the crime rates in most countries are just a joke.”

“Not revering a single god doesn’t give rise to useless prejudice.”

“Religion is a weapon of mass destruction.”

“You can do whatever you like if God forgives you.”

“We aren’t without religion.

December is Christmas.

The New Year is Shinto.

The funeral is Buddhist.

The marriage is Christian.

There’s no more faithful people!”

“It’s almost like you can’t have morals, happiness or love without religion to them. Their culture has been hijacked, hasn’t it?”

“’It’s because they are 98% one people.’

This is a big factor – mixing in different cultures and religions causes public order to deteriorate.”

“The reason is because sex is completely tolerated.”

“Society is a harsher master than any God. The punishments actually happen after all.”

“Crime may be rare and manners good, but it is stifling here.”

“Look at the troubles after the war or in the Showa period, and the crime rates then. Japanese society is currently stable, that’s why crime is low. Individualism vs collectivism or whatever are just secondary factors.”

“Overseas, atheists get suspected of communism. In Japan, it’s the Catholic priests and the Buddhist monks who are the communists.”

“Japanese only believe in capitalists and men of power.”

“I’d like to ask those American fellows the opposite – just why is it the religious folk are the ones with the worst manners and the highest levels of crime?”

“In the US, there’s one god for 300 million people.

In Japan, there’s 8 million gods, that’s 1 to 15. Plenty for everyone.”

“Let’s just put it down to bushido.”

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    Comment by Anonymous
    11:26 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Doesn't anyone here remember what happened to Junko Furuta?


    Comment by Anonymous
    11:54 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    On a side note, the picture is pretty damn awesome.

    Comment by Anonymous
    Comment by Anonymous
    12:22 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because the Japanese vent their hate towards Lolis

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:21 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan is still a copie from ancient chinese-confucian culture. It was civilized by the Chinese at least beginning from the 5th century. Even until today Japan is still a "Made in China"-country, like Korea and Vietnam.

    and so on...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:22 27/11/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    Men evoluted from the monkeys.

    So Man=Monkey

    Cool logic, chinese bro.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:28 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Because they are not people, they are ROBOTS!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:21 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe because they are a small country and they are also surrounded by water. No one gets in, No one gets out!

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    Comment by Lataupe
    11:17 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sectarianism - Impose their idea on others

    Theism - Believe there is a God or follow a way of life taught by a religion

    Agnostic theist - Religious by tradition but does not practice nor give a damn

    Agnosticism - Don't give a damn or try to find the truth 50/50

    Agnostic atheist - Don't believe in a God

    Atheism - Impose their idea on others

    learn the difference

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:41 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Main problem is that people in general
    are stupid and ignorant morons.
    By encouraging these morons to believe in
    the "big fairy" in the sky, it leads some
    of the even dumber morons within the morons
    to go radical and even create even more
    retarded religious ideas/beliefs.

    A majority of the regilious zealot twits
    have held back scientific advancements since
    the begin of your BC/AD Calendar.

    Until all you retarded people stop with
    organization religion and brain up, then
    maybe, just maybe the stupid human race
    can move forward just a bit.

    Let science proceed unabated by your
    pseudo-morals regilious crap. If science
    somehow screw up and end up destorying
    all humanity, then so be it, we had crappy run...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:00 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You may believe this, but that won't stop me from wanting to kill people indiscriminately.

    A challenge to my faith is a challenge, one that is based on passion, not reason.

    This is why I praise any bomber and those martyrs who crashed the planes on the twin towers.

    Also, one of my dreams is to bathe in a blood of atheists.

    Richard Dawkins. Christopher Hitchens. One day, I will kill these people and eat them and defecate their pathetic remnants, because they are just animals.

    All atheists belong in mass graves, to be forgotten both in Earth and in Heaven. They are nothing. They are not human. They may speak or think, but so can parrots and computers. Atheists deserve to be eaten by those willing to die for God Almighty.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:40 07/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    go home, bill o'Reilly.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:44 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)



    I sincerely hope that terrorists kill all you atheists. For I shall go to hell proudly before denying its existence.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:58 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lmao. Is that you slayer545?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:33 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a bunch of ridiculous ideas from 2ch.
    Japan has a low crime rate because it is a monoculture with (for all intents and purposes) no immigrants, and if you get arrested, you have a 98% chance of being convicted, after which you are the ultimate outsider in a society that demands that you be part of the group.
    Religion has sweet bugger all to do with it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:13 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The replies to this article proves how ill-mannered, moronic and assertive Westerners and white-washed Asians are compared to people from Asia who still have their values intact.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:16 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm christian, but I don't understand those christians that hate on atheists or agnostics. Why should you do that?

    Personally, I want an "ending" to our life where everyone is saved. Where everyone wins. You're atheist? Cool, I respect your viewpoint. Why do we have to fight?

    I'm living my life hoping that, however the world ends up ending, everyone is saved in the same way (If we're saved at all. If we just die though, that's gonna suck.) Look out for others, they'll look out for you too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:36 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you mean like how they vote to not let same sex couple marriage because it is evil in their bible, or the man got arrest due to not being naked in his own house and so on? I would rather they leave me alone.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:29 31/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    adding on to anon 15:36

    or how people who have been impregnated through rape can't abort because you guys vote against it, or how advancements in medicine in genetics are being held back by anti-cloning sentiments held by your faith.

    Unfortunately thats only some of the implications for society that your faith imposes. While you're happy, those people who are afflicted by your faith's illogical social limiations are suffering. Try to at least attempt to put yourself into someone else's boots; have a bit of empathy and compassion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:02 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wait...did someone just suggest that there wasn't trolling going on here? I mean, I feel asleep just trying to scroll down this mighty wall of text, which consists primarily of Christians and Atheists calling each other fags.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:49 31/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    we aren't calling each other fags just retarted ass monkeys

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:26 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let's not forget about atheist like Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Malosivic, Himler, Castro, and Hussein. Plus I won't leave religion out of the light. We have the Crusades for both Islam and Christianity, 9/11, and the Yellow Turban Rebellion just to name a few. Humanity is violent no matter the religion or not.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:52 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)



    >implying Stalin was a threat to global security
    >implying Castro was a threat to global security
    Somebody failed his history class.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:50 31/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Castro were _CATHOLIC_.

    Hitler even went on to prattle about his Catholic faith was giving him the spiritual strength to fight the Jewish menace.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:47 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    religion is the best case of stockholm syndrome that has or will ever be presented and/or proven. all religions basically say that we're right and everyone else is wrong, but at the same time deny that fact if confronted with it and at the same time AGAIN enforce it. a hardcore christian will defend his belief to the death, and not even know what he's defending. there's a saying: as long as there's been a God, there's been killing in his name. the first murder in the bible was a man killing his own brother because he was jealous. according to the bible, man got kicked out of paradise for disobeying on account of a woman. how is this supposed to inspire sunshine and happiness when the bible reads like a lovecraftian horror gone wrong? incest, rape, murder, deception, every one of the ten commandments in the bible is BROKEN in the bible. then there's just discrepancies that we can't be sure if it's from mistranslation, or it's from the bible being rewritten so many times. there's books that have been taken out of the bible, and stuff that's been shuffled around and things added in that shouldn't be there! for example, the account of judas betraying jesus. anyone that's cone to sunday school as a child or taken a religion class in high school knows of this one. but there's 2 endings. one, he hangs himself. 2, he disembowels himself. how did he die twice? it's just too much to look at and then go to church with a straight face, ya know?

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:37 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the bible that we all know of may say one thing, but all the different "christian sects" as i like to call them, all say something different. Catholics say one thing, protestants say one thing, then there's baptists, Pentecostals, salvation army, and a million other branches that started all because someone didn't like the way that someone wore their hair, so they had to be a child and start their own "christian religion" which is the same as the one they JUST left, but for one small detail, whatever that may be. i was born and raised a christian, and i find so many flaws with Christianity and the "modern" bible, that it's not funny. like the fact that our "bible" was rewritten at least twice in history, and mostly for political agenda. it's really sad when the pastor of my church can't answer my questions, and when his spiritual leader can't either, but the funny thing is, the ppl that i know that know the most about the bible and are correct are those that don't even believe in the church. let me make that clear. i believe in "god" but just not in the concept of organized religion. to me organized religion and organized crime are not that far apart. the big difference is that if you want to make more money, religion is the place to go in some parts of the world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:09 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I am surprised at all the serious insightfull responses i tought they were just going to troll the guy, but many actually tried to answer the question.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:03 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My god is Richard Dawkins.


    Comment by Anonymous
    15:23 31/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You can't /thread your own post, faggot.

    Typical Atheist moron.

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    Comment by Bronxdragon
    13:12 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is stupid.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:00 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Some interesting opinions from Japanese 2ch users there. I disagree with some, and agree with others, which is about what I would expect.

    I will say that it seems that atheism is just as misunderstood as theism in some sense. Being an empirical rationalist that lives his/her life based on what is testable and demonstrably true is no cult, it's just a mindset. I've always had a mistrust for those that claim to have the truth... I'd rather spend my time seeking it myself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:45 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    As far as I can tell, it's less about religion so much as cultural differences.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    13:52 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cultural differences largely defined by religion. Abrahamic religions give forgiveness, the Japanese without it have to own up to it themselves.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:10 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Almost everywhere crime is lower than in USA.

    Even in christian countries... Most european countries have far lower crime rates than the USA.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 01/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    thats because most people here aren't christians. And it is all the games fault because most people are to retarded to tell the differnce between reality and imaginary games

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    Comment by Duke
    08:49 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I love this art :3

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:45 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How is babby formed?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:33 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ask Mr. Stork.

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    Comment by arckusanagi
    08:49 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol... ask ur parents XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:14 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    how girl get pragnant?

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    Comment by shahgojjyo
    09:23 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you know why the number of crime in japan? it is because the government it self afraid of "843" yakuza. hahaha. well each country has its own law and it different compare to other country for example in USA the GPM (Gross Profit margin) they also count the source of income from the gamble place such as at Los Vegas, but in another country such as singapore they dont count the gdp as the one of the source in the country . in another word the way of legal action also different.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:19 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Heres the reason
    Japan: Lost kid, gasp, ill shall help you. knock knock, this your kid. Mom "Yes, thank you. can you wait for a second" Guy "Yes." Mom ring ring "hello police." sir can you wait while the police come to arrest you. Man sure why not. glad i could help. mom and thanks again for helping me find my lost kid.

    U.S.: Lost kid, gasp, ill shall help you. knock knock, this your kid. mom "yes, omg thank you. heres your reward." hands over money. man thank you bye.

    in short, in japan you get arrested for the dumbest things. so the people dont act bad over there. help a kid over there, hell even look at one, and you get arrested. here help the kid find his home and ka ching.

    you get it now.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:17 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I personaly find it funny that so many people are:

    ITs the god(s) they worship! ( or dont worship )

    or other religious BS.

    Lets face the facts:

    In America, you commit a crime, they slap you on the wrist and let you go. ( There was a shooting near my home recently... 4 cops died... the shooter had been in jail many times before and even had been sentenced to 102 years in jail... but... they felt sorry for him to face such a sentence so they let him go... )

    In Japan, you commit a crime and they throw you in prison and throw a way the Key.

    In America its the Culture to blame society for a persons problems.

    In japan, their culture is if you do something wrong, Society judges you.

    Its Japan's culture that saves them from the high crime rates.

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    08:23 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

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    Comment by Tateha
    10:59 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if you have no religion, by default you kind of take on a humanism world view and attitude to life, which is infinitely far better than worshiping some ancient myths and superstitions.

    it's painful to see that the majority of the world feel that if you have no god, you are automatically a criminal with no sense of values or morality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:13 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not that their crime rate is lower. It's that they do a better job of censoring and manipulating "facts."

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:50 01/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ding ding ding, we have a winner. Crime is almost nonexistant in Kuwait, too, you know, must be the best place on Earth, right?

    Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION. Crime and religion go hand in hand because they both appeal to the same demographic: stupid people. Don't believe me? Remember Proposition 8 in California? 95% of those identifying themselves as atheists voted against it. You think that was because they were atheists, or was it just because they'd given the matter some thought?

    Most of the UK are atheists, too. You think 95% of them would vote for gay marriage? Fuck no.

    tl;dr: statistics can mean whatever you want them to mean.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:06 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why is crime in Japan lower than in Christian countries? Because Philippines is a shithole!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:47 30/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, but Japan won't be having any more babies. They'll die out from not having children, or kill themselves over their lack of employment.

    Philippines? You can throw a volcano, a storm, or an earthquake at them, and they'll make 10 more for each who died, and they'll do it with a smile on their faces.

    In fact? Pretty soon, if the Chinese or Koreans won't take over Japan, the Filipino immigrants in Japan would out-breed the Japanese.

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