Microsoft China Plagiarises Plurk
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Dec 16, 2009 00:11 JST
- Tags: China, Internet, Made in China, Plagiarism, Sites, Taiwan, Technology, Twitter
Top Asian micro-blogging service Plurk has apparently been subject to brazen plagiarism by Microsoft China, in a case which raises unsettling questions about the business ethics of both Microsoft and its Chinese developers.
Plurk explains its grievances:
• Microsoft China officially launched its own microblogging service, MSN Juku/Hompy/Mclub, some time in November, 2009.
• The service’s design and UI is by and large an EXACT copy of Plurk’s innovative left-right timeline scrolling navigation system. (see screen captures below)
• Some 80% of the client and product codebase appears to be stolen directly from Plurk! (see evidence below).
• Plurk was never approached nor collaborated in any capacity with MS on this service.
• As a young startup, we’re stunned, shocked, and unsure what to do next and need your support and suggestions.
A little overly inspired, wouldn’t you agree? Of course, we understand others will always be motivated to emulate and take bits and pieces of visual and functional elements from widely successful services and carve out localized versions.
Plurk was already Taiwan’s biggest microblogging service, 10x bigger than Twitter in that market alone, and emerging as Asia’s answer to Twitter in many of the biggest countries in East Asian, so naturally Microsoft probably saw some potential in piggybacking off the success of our unique service and launching something similar in a related market like China.
If this was just a case of visual inspiration gone too far, we could probably have lived with it. We would have taken the time to reach out to Microsoft, get colour on the matter and try to amicably resolve it.
That’s not the case here. This is something far more sinister. On closer inspection, we found that MUCH of the codebase and data structures that Microsoft’s MClub uses are identical snapshots of our code.
Microsoft has taken Plurk’s custom developed libraries, css files and client code and just ported them directly over to their service without any attempt to even mask this! Here are just 3 small examples of literally hundreds we have found.
Some users in the blogosphere even speculated that Microsoft Mclub/Juku was some sort of official partnership we’d struck with Microsoft to clear a re-entry into China after our earlier censorship in the region behind the Great Firewall of China, prior to which we were the #1 microblogging service in the country.
Let’s clear the air around this. While many reputable internet companies have forged solid partnerships with Plurk, valuing our innovation and market leadership in Asia, Microsoft was absolutely not one of them.
We were never contacted by any party at MS to collaborate on such a venture nor did we give any prior written or verbal permission to anyone on their side to take our code, take our CSS, and copy the essence and ethos of our service.
We’re still in shock asking why Microsoft would even stoop to this level of wilfully plagiarising a young and innovative upstart’s work rather than reach out to us or innovate on their own terms.
Of course, it just hits that much closer to home when all your years of hard work and effort to create something unique are stolen so brazenly.
All the more ironic considering Microsoft has often been leading the charge on fighting for stronger IP laws and combating software piracy in China.
The site has since been “temporarily” pulled by Microsoft in what is presumably a tacit admission of guilt.
Microsoft may already have earned much infamy for its “embrace and extend” approach to borrowing or copying whatever it feels like, but rarely has it stooped to this level of plagiarism.
With Microsoft’s China subsidiary being at fault, many will doubtless be wondering whether this had the blessing of Microsoft head office, or if it is instead merely business as usual by Chinese developers…











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Why does it not surprise me that Microsoft would do something like this?
coincidences?
One hell of a coincidence there, k.
Though at least their code arrangement looks consistent with usual standards.
That's a lot of specific coincidences.
As Sherlock Holmes always said, "Coincidence, I THINK NOT!"
BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAHH!
China gets plagiarized!
Nice feeling, isn't it, suckers? LOL
You have my compassion... not. ROTFL
De tuk er jaabs!!!
Remember how Windows 3.0 looked awfully similar to System 6? Yeah.
Same as Vista stole visual features from Mac and Linux :P
two words: it's China.
Didn't Microsoft steal from Apple then they created Windows in the first place?
Eh. Obviously the American part of MS had nothing to do with this.
I don't think Microsoft Head office would have approved it (as it makes them look very bad when people connect the dots). However, who knows?
Most likely, considering the time, effort and energy that M$ has been spending as of late on PR, in part to get rid of the whole VISTA debacle issue.
They would've known that it would back-fire big time, so it just seems unlikely that they'd give the go ahead.
Until Now Microsoft was stealing the ideas and free code from others now they are just leveling up.
China + Microsoft = Stalinist communism
Then, Microsoft = Super Mario
Hopefully its the fact that Microsoft does stuff like this ALL THE TIME. A good recent example of Microsoft Plagerism, is the windows 7 file browsing system looking suspiciously similer to the Mac's.
Don't start an OS war now. Apple copied a lot of stuff from Micosoft too:
The Finder Sidebar was first seen in OS 10.3 two years after the navigation pane appeared in Windows XP. Micosoft just replaced the plus/minus signs with the Apple like trangles in Vista.
Mac path bar in Leopard: copied from Windows
back/forward navigation in Finder windows: copied from Windows
Command-Tab: since the 1990's available in Windows, since 2003 on Apples OS
System Preferences: copied and reneamed from Control Panel, wasn't there before OS 10.0
and so on...
I agree with you.
Let me add some stuff ^_^
Gadgets/Widgets: was first seen in Windows Codename Longhorn. Came around a year into OSX after a year or so when the Longhorn concept video was shown.
anyway, the industry always has to share. Pretty much like Nikon's video-in-dSLR and Canon's red-line-in-lens-says-its-high-end-in-lenses. Canon bought the original digital camara technology from (what I remember) Fujifilm. Apple bought the original iPod from a small company that produces MP3 players. Even Microsoft got MS-DOS from QDOS.
anyway, peace (^.^)
That's just how it is, and how it always will be. Someone innovates something quite good, everyone else either has to come up with something better (requires hard work) or something similar (more feasible and common.) Like tabbed browsing, Opera has had that shit since forever, but was a relatively unknown commercial browser until it went freeware. The Netscape/FF devs noticed how convenient this innovation was and copied it, then MS decided to join in with the tab orgy too.
Anyway, MS and Apple sure are taking their time in copying Desktop/UI ideas from XGL/Compiz. I wouldn't be a true linux faggot if I didn't point that out. :)
As for this thing, I wish the Plurk guys all the best if they decide to pursue legal action. Sucks that MS copy-pasta'd basically all their JavaScript as well as the design.
Well, It can't be helped.
LOL China.
MICROSOFT DID IT AGAIN
> CHINA did it again
fixed
China dragging big companies down to their shit.
thanks to china, microsoft now taste their piece of shit
so you mean china owns microsoft china?
...the obviousness of your comment was intentional...right?
I surely hope so >_>
did china just get copied'd?
racist spotted
this is weird software and also i am not sure how to use that.
Looks like China once again did something special
As expected of something from China
QUARITY assured.
"We’re still in shock asking why Microsoft would even stoop to this level of wilfully plagiarising a young and innovative upstart’s work rather than reach out to us or innovate on their own terms."
Uhh.... maybe because microsoft gives no fuck about China and choses the easiest way? I dunno.. anyone? (sarcasm)
Srsly, is there no way to protect or encrypt web source code?
HA! china!
no more bill gates = look a like code? haha
what you guys think?
And what is exactly the problem here, china have always plagiarised the rest of the world! Now that someone does the same to them they make a scandal, thats lack of shame.
I don't agree on this practice from Microsoft, but I'm glad they took a spoon of their own chocolate.
Read the article again. You are way off.
meh, another arse who can't differenciate PRC and ROC
Hah, well thats what they deserve anyway, its totally okay by me if one china company plagiarisms another, or even if microsoft does that to them.
That's like saying you deserve a death sentence for someone else committing mass murder. Sounds quite fair, doesn't it?
other then the windows 7 Madobe Nanami theme where else has Microsoft borrowed stuff?
Microsoft constantly steals other ideas. It's a known fact it's been going on forever. Office was one of them, DOS was infact a stolen idea iirc. M$ has on numerous occasions made slightly different products to other companies. then sued the original company with their huge fuck off legal team and deep pockets usually meaning that the company would have to accept an under the table bail out. Even recently Microsoft have been caught using GPL code.
The original core DOS was bought and paid for. Microsoft built and expanded on it through several iterations. Please learn to computer history.
Office was stolen? Really?
I was talking ideas wise although M$ have been snagged quite a few times for using other peoples code. Feel free to google it , I'm busy with the higurashi VN at the moment.
The irony here is that the patent and copyright system was made to prevent THIS sort of thing happening. Companies taking other peoples products and selling them as their own, not so much to stop the casual pirates that MS decided to disconnect.
Here everyone will blame China, but China doesn't tell microsoft to do what they do. Next time you buy a console or OS consider how much microsoft is raping you in the ass (apple are just as bad ethically, as are sony, although not so much with the ps3). You can mod your xbox not designed for piracy and still get disconnected. Then they go out and do something so much worse.
Sup kettle. This is pot. you're black.
>>The irony here is that the patent and copyright system was made to prevent THIS sort of thing happening.
Copyright system was made to prevent this sort of thing happening.
Patent system was made to RAPE YOU.
wtf is plurk?
The sound you make when you puke. ^_^
Oh how RARE, a racist china article