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Wait wait...so it seriously helps (Seriously now)?

then why are you here? go post in 2CH instead plz

There's "fluent", and then there's "fluent".

I've a friend who's been studying Japanese for some years, has guided and translated for groups of Americans in Japan, and groups of Japanese in America, has Japanese associates and friends in a variety of social strata, and so has been exposed various forms of the language, etc.

Yet, when she was reading a sports manga in which the majority of characters were males in high school, she told me it was very slow going for her, "because I have to look up words so often. The vocabulary of high-school boys is so different from what I'm used to."

There may be a generational gap language issue there -- she's in her late thirties; most of her Japanese friends and associates are her age or significantly older.

Have you ever tried looking up a Japanese word and _not_ found it in your dictionary?

(I'm just trying to learn enough so I can watch raw anime and play computer games.)

It doesn't seem that this game would require deep language skills.

It's not like you'll need to strip those girls in real life, in which case some minimal knowledge of what they're talking about would be recommended.

I'm also a Japanese student and I have to agree on the 18 month part, maybe even less if you could put more time in it. If you learn for about 2 hours a day and try to immerse yourself with japanese music and anime and such for about 5 days a week, you'll learn it in just a little over a year. You won't be fluent but you'll just hit conversational level. This is more than enough for most japanese games and anime, although you still have to look stuff up from time to time.

Not being able to find the translation of a word won't really happen in today's world of the internetzz. Just type it in Kana and throw it through "Translation Aggregator" and you'll find your answer.

@1447

Truth.

time and dedication,
you can learn japanese in around 18 months. a language with latin letters in under a year. without a job or other things to worry :/

The language is easy to learn, and the pronunciation is easy for spanishfag, hiragana and katakana are easy too, the only problem is learning to read kanji.

I know there's a very effective way to learn a language. Just throw yourself into the country which speaks that language. In a few months' time, you will be a master at it.

learned to speak Japanese in about a year (not perfectly) took another year to learn to read it. Not interested in games though but I read manga and short novels and watch anime without subtitles, and video chat with Japanese girls all in Japanese.

Just throw yourself into the country which speaks that language. In a few months' time, you will be a master at it.

That's why my dad, after spending 17 years in the german region of switzerland, can't speak german, nor his own language, to save his life.

I picked up a bit of basic japanese in no time at all (this includes basic sentence structure, some vocab, hiragana and katakana, and some kanji. took about a 2 months). And that's while attending classes, and working full time. I think if you have the time, you can lean at least to an intermediate level in a year. Not saying it's easy, just depends on how driven you are.

well... i guess some of u have a point, i've been learning japanese for the past 4.5 years so far, im pretty dang good yes, but if i studied like say, every 2 days seriously, i'd be fluent by now...

still it's not a language to underestimate.. at all

If u understand chinese, u have a good chance of picking up Jap faster =)

I think you guys are making the language out to be a monster. It's really not that hard of a language. If you have 0 responsibilities you can prob learn the language in nine months. And you could "brush up" in a couple months, it's not totally easy; it still takes enormous time and dedication; it's just not a monster.

Especially reading Japanese if you know how to read Chinese. It's like half the work is already done for you!

It's only takes about 2-3 years to become fluent if you have a sort of drive. *Mine was anime/manga/visual novel/video games* And this was only during school time, it's not like it "takes insane dedication and TIME to learn a language, especially one like Japanese." Half the time I sleep in class too. The only thing that makes learning Japanese difficult is the Kanji.