Valkyria Chronicles 2: “We Have Too Many Male Fans”

What a smart marketing decision - to make a sequel for just 5% of their initial customers.

well at least we're sure they won't make yaoi-based games...

...right?

bloody retards... i want my rpg turn based war simulator, not a half ass bishounen dating sim based on war...

the girls have basara to masterbate over if that was what they wanted

They could just drop it, this would save them time and money...

I bet EroManga masterbates 24/7. Basara is old.

But isn't marketing for girls like lots of bishounens who make girls swoon and make said girls act like stereotypical girls? Like a subtle way of saying get back to the kitchens?

Why can't they just put an equal amount of male and female characters and make a game that is just great and not just for the sake of women? I mean as one of team I like to see games targeted for us but the original looks awesome while the second...

It is okay to try making a game more accesible, but do that with the fans in mind. Also, I't wouldn't surprise me if all Gamers have a quota of 1 female to 10 guys which means for a game that targets both audiences that they have it ten times harder to get one more female to play this then a guy.
Well, lets see how good this game is.

@anon 03:36
at least i have a dick and have the opportunity to masterbate 24/7, you can go suck cock and, get the name right dipshit

@yaku
i think the fact that its a wargame also makes a big difference, i get women asking me what games i play on the ds... i say, metal slug 7, advance wars and fire emblem... they say... right... um... mario party anyone?

Checking the site shows they are more than serious about catering to the female audience (ahem, fujoshi) who read, and most surely loved the manga with yaoi material as well as fans of the anime.

They're adding Julius and Mintz (the ones from the manga), as well as... TV version Alicia...

http://blog.valkyria.jp/archives/1163014.html

What the fuck... ? I'm sure they're extra characters, just like Vyse, Aika and Fina, but they didn't clash with the story like TV Alicia does...

Well, at least Welkin and Alicia (MILF material by now) will appear as well...

Selvaria too...

This is weird logic.

As a girl, as much fun as bishounen can be, I tend to prefer stories/shows/games about strong female leads or ensemble casts. Maybe it's my age, but the artwork above for original appeals to me because it's more mature looking as well.

And an academy setting for the sequel? Bleh, not interesting to me at all.

Check Sega's logical decisions vs the illogical ones. You'll see the latter ones outweigh the others. This could be said to be within the scope of Sega's trademark choices.

lol, @eromango. Not every girl stereotypical.
My sis ask for Madworld and Deadspace. She is even play metalslug with me.

But if you did read they don't turn it into a bishonen game, they just add more male characters and thats all...

Did you miss the "we're putting it on the PSP so we can rush it and not do any real work" part?

A) Instead of girly fan-service, they're now focused on yaoi fan-service. I'm not exactly seeing how this is a step up.
B) Modern success would at least be in place if they were still trying to cater to their old fans - instead, they're throwing them to the way side and hoping they'll still buy a game that has no characters they're interested in.
C) They said - in different words - they were rushing it out to coincide with the anime series. Thus, I'm expecting a game that is no better than James Cameron's Avatar: The Video Game.

B) Modern success would at least be in place if they were still trying to cater to their old fans - instead, they're throwing them to the way side and hoping they'll still buy a game that has no characters they're interested in.

And that makes the game good, Haruhi was so good and successful.

that's because Haruhi fans are retarded

You can make the gameplay as great as possible, if you don't give a shit about the characters, what's the point?

I've never enjoyed a game where I didn't care for the protagonists, if the game is very focused on characterization - and let's face it, that's one of the only things going for RPGs these days.

Main reason I enjoyed Persona 3? I loved the characters. Main reason I couldn't play more than a few hours of Final Fantasy VIII? I found the characters completely bland and unappealing.

Huzzah to that, Persona 3... now if only Minato could talk...

@anon 01:37: so true! rushing a game never did it any good... it always ends up being less of what could've been. Besides, it's like they know it's not gonna be good since it needs to ride the popularity of the anime...

Actually there are, even more then males as you can special see at the sales of games for Nintendo consoles and Square Enix games.

I would love to see the study that backs your statement (because It's almost a guarantee that your talking out of your ass).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girl_gamer
Dork, half of the gamer population is female but buy less games and 38% are "real" gamers. Those who play games only sometimes don't were counted, it would make it more then male ones.

I don't know any female that doesn't own a console and games thought.

Did...did you just attempt to use Wikipedia of all things to back your argument? ::sigh:: where to even begin.

First, your argument was that there are more female gamers than male.
Then you post a wiki article to back it (un-scholarly reference=failed. There's a reason you can't use wiki for college papers/arguments).
And in the wiki article it states
"According to a study conducted by the Entertainment Software Association in 2008, women now comprise 38%[2] of all gamers."

Nowhere in the article does it edit or amend this, and 38% doesn't sound like "more than" to me.

Game over. Continue?

Learn reading, then post:
"The role of women in the games industry—as professionals and as consumers—has received extensive academic and business attention because women represent approximately half the population but buy a small share of all video games."

Also the articles linked on wikipedia proof that you are wrong.

::sigh:: You still don't seem to get why your argument failed so badly. I'll give you some time to reread the facts of your argument vs your proof. I won't hold it against you, because everyone makes mistakes. As a help

>YOUR ARGUMENT :more female gamers than male
>Roles of women, professionals and as consumers
>approximately half of population but buy a small share of all video games

>According to a study conducted by the Entertainment Software Association in 2008, women now comprise 38%[2] of all gamers

More than does not mean equal to, nor less than. Does any of this help you?

Like I said Before, learn reading. I am talking the whole time about girls that play games and not female gamers. Just because a person got games to play it isn't a gamer.

lol, you need to learn to read 女中 あゆ

What the states is that half of the WORLDS population is female, NOT half of the gaming population. The very same article states that there are significantly fewer women who game.

Within the industry there are plenty of girl gamers in professional roles, but they're still playing catchup to a largely male environment.

Your argument of "girls who play games", as well as "girl gamers" doesn't hold up well either as that kinda ignores "guys who play games" in regards to male gamers...

The female gaming demographic is significant in size, but pales in comparison to the largely male playerbase.

Sorry, but there seems to be some misinterpretation going on here.

"...women represent approximately half the population..."
This isn't talking about gamers, this is saying that the human population is approximately 50% male and 50% female.

"...women now comprise 38% of all gamers."
The ratio of female to male gamers is a bit higher than 1:2, so okay, that's a decent sized market, but...

"...but buy a small share of all video games."
Despite representing over 1/3rd of the "gaming community", this suggests that for their numbers they are, per person, spending much less in the industry.

While it's stupid to deny the existence of female gamers, the wikipedia article you pointed to supports the claim that the female market is much smaller than the male market, and in relation to the game at hand, abandoning the larger male demographic to target the fewer in number and lower spending female demographic is a poor marketing decision.

Seems like some people here don't read the articles on wikipedia which are the sources for the statements. It is the half...

I think she ran away ^^
should have fate/stayed in the kitchen

=_= She wouldn't take my word at anything, and continued "seeing what she wanted" in the article, so i'm not surprised. But, whatever, everyone messes up at some point.

Actually you don't see the point, it is more then the half female but you don't seem to be abel to do researches or read like she said.

To begin with we see the point that she tries to make but it doesn't change that the point is simply not true.

Secondly we aren't into guro or other fetishes that much so we don't like half female.

Additionally it is 'to do research'. And of course it's 'able' because I don't think you think of the guy Cain slew.

Also here some additionally funny statistically things:
- each generation 105 men to 100 Women are born, which means there are in the same age frame more guys, this is hormone based and a evolutory survival trait because men tend to die more frequnt normally
- women live in average 6 to 8 years longer in most parts of the world -> means there are slightly more women on earth but basically many of them are just old and it's unlikely they buy games wouldn't you think?

Actually there are many games existing for old people existing, alone all the brain and muscle training ones are even bought by pensions for their old people so they don't get bored.

Funny how Anons 4:38 and 6:28 speak in exactly the same manner as 女中 あゆ.

Anons 4:03, 4:04 and non-Anon BlaqCat have the right idea here.

If 38% of gamers are female, that makes 62% of them male. 62 is a larger number than 38. Therefore, there are more male gamers than female gamers.

That's not to say that 38% of gamers isn't an impressive market share (and I don't blame VC for trying to cash in on that, even if they're going about it the wrong way), but 38% is certainly not a majority.

Like it was said already multiple times, read the sources included in wikipedia and you will se that it is over the half besides that you should learn what "gamer" means since it is used for a person that plays almost every day games and not those who play games in general.

But it isn't a bishonen game in any way, you maybe should read about the game and look at all the big breasted half naked woman that are included in it which are way more then males...

Gundam went more Bishie recently, it's still showing signs of life... even though I dislike it, I'll admit it's impressive

I think the game's gonna be ok, just not what everyone's hoping for, good or bad

At last it is still better then making it something with clumsy moeblob characters like it is currently "in".

Moeblob > Gundam bishies