US Army Brats Attempt Murder of Japanese Woman

I dunno if its American kids in general or just white kids.

Well yes white kids but I've seen some white-washed asian kids around.

You didn't have to log out and post three times for your little monologue. Seriously, stupidity knows no bounds.

These kids need an old fashioned beatin'.

“We didn’t think people would think of this as attempted murder.”

when my brother taught me how to use a rifle he gave me simply instruction "never point the rifle at something you are not willing to lose, even if you *think* it have no bullets in it!".

those kids are living among solders and they have no idea what is dangerous?! WTF?

wait... kids?!, I used to look after the house when I was 12, how can a 15 years old be considered a kid?

we are not allowed to beat our kids, you go to jail for properly disciplining kids these days over here... :(

I use to work with kids at a day camp, and a lot of parents don't even do that. We have asian parents, and if there kids are bad the they fear us telling them so there good kids. but about all the white kids well not care you tell them and parents look on there faces is like i dont care. there even was times i was yell by the parents for giving there kids time out.

To Anon@16:37:
Technically true, but people still do it anyway. An old fashioned beatin' is discipline, not child abuse. It's a tried and true method, my friend. As long as you don't really mess the kid up like break a bone or permanently disfigure him/her, I'm sure people can tell the difference.

Then again, if your kid is psycho or irrational enough to call the cops on you for disciplining them like that, you might want to reconsider how much you should even bother in the future.

I'm American. My brother-in-law beats the crap out of his kids as a way of playing with them. If it hurts them enough for them to break down in tears(and I mean really break down) he beats the crap out of them for crying.

I wish I was a victim of domestic violence...(upto a certain degree). damn white parents. they are all wimps, using verbal abuse.

not how it works insilencio, teachers will ask kids if their parents ever hit them, spanking is hitting, kids will say yes or "when im bad" and then child services steps in.

weather its acceptable discipline or not there are cases and tons of legal shit you have to deal with just for spanking your child. so most people just dont now, they dont want to deal with the the government so they resort to giving in to their children or other forms of punishment...

I got the spatula when i got in trouble and I came out fine, so I really don't see why its a big deal, personally ill spank my kids and just make sure to leave no marks.

Asian punishment is better. I've always thought parents beating the crap out of their kids is a more effective way than just being grounded

To Anon@17:28:
What?! My teachers never asked me that! lol I can't believe that not even a hundred years ago teachers were in fact allowed to hit kids for doing stupid stuff.

The legal issue is murky as heck, true, but child services obviously doesn't get called in every time a kid is spanked. But the alternative method of non-physical discipline is just simply going to be less direct and less effective. I'm pretty sure that's why spanking is still done and tolerated (to an extent, of course) today.

I'm a child of the metal clothes-hanger myself, and I'm doing fine too. Of course I hated it when my mom did it to me, but looking back, I honestly probably wouldn't have really listened to her if she'd just said "Oh, stop it," or "Sit down and be quiet" or "Go to your room" every time. I agree with you on that last thing: my kids'll get an "Involve me, and I will understand" upbringing too.

not even american army kids are disciplined

I donno. My mom tried spanking us when we were little but she stopped when we ended up just being scared of her. I'm pretty confident I and my siblings turned out to be pretty solid people without the threat of being hit.

But we were always the kind of kids who felt bad about disappointing our mom regardless, so maybe we were just taught better to begin with? I'm not saying we were perfect, but we had respect for our elders that I think a lot of spoiled bratty kids don't have.

Wish I knew what it was my mom did cause I'm pretty freaked about the day I'll have to raise my own kids.

I'm British and here, you aren't allowed to beat up your kids to discpline them.

Regardless of the law, my father whipped the shit out of my back whenever I did something wrong or whenever I even started to cry.

Saying the law stops you is pure bull. Stern families do it anyway and none of them have been arrested yet.

Gotta love the people bashing the beating your kid comments....Here's a small tip though, a bar of soap in a sock leaves no marks >_>

Getting hit by anything with any significant amount of force repeatedly leaves marks.

These kids are IDIOTS they need to have a good 'ol coleman water jug forced up their asses. Honestly, just because they're americans they do this kinda shit? Well if you ask me somebody ought to hang 'em by their balls 12 ft. in the air was they serve as human pinatas to mexicans.

STUPID BASTARDS

It is proven that a certain level of violence at certain points triggers that response in children, such as bullying and the like. The issues formed due to that. The problem is it became 'all violence' as opposed to the reality, which is that there are 'parental slaps' and such that have a very definite intent behind them. Not beatings, not really even painful, but getting the attention of the children. After the physical connection of a light slap, saying "you need to stop this or I'll have to punish you more, understand?" will almost always cause them to recognize something they are doing is wrong. You will of course eventually have to follow through a bit, because children exist to test their limits, that's what life is: experiencing new things, and until a limit is set, they will continue to search for it.

what a fucking embarrassment for my country. those kids... wait 15-18 they can all be tried as adults. they are not kids they are criminals. that poor woman was minding her own fucking business and these scumbags nearly ended her life for amusement. they wont even be punished because their folks are soldiers. and all this crap about not hitting your kids is a bunch of bleeding heart bullshit. as long as you raise your kids right you shouldn't have to hit them, true? but when they need to be disciplined there is nothing wrong with a swat on the rear, or a slap on the wrist. Many adults are too childish to understand the pain thresh hold of a child and hit too hard. i think it should be just hard enough to let them associate the pain with "bad" not "punishment." similar to training a dog. you pop him on the butt if he bites your couch, he will know you disapprove, rather than break a chair over his back.

@Anon, 16:37

"we are not allowed to beat our kids, you go to jail for properly disciplining kids these days over here... :("

If a kid is properly disciplined and no one is around to witness it, does it qualify as breaking the law?

I wonder.

Heck middle-class white kids parents wouldn't send them to their room, they'd just threaten to not buy them a car for their "Sweet 16th"... God I hate that term!

The brats didn't sound like they were sorry about hurting someone "We didn’t think people would think of this as attempted murder." They're only feeling sorry for themselves, not the victims.

I agree completely. I really hope the woman recovers and wins a big lawsuit against the little bastards.
If our service people can't act like civilized humans when they are the guests of a foreign country, we should pull them out and close the bases. I love the men and women who protect our country, but when they or their offspring pull shit like this, they make it mighty hard.

army wo/men arnt paid to think, thats why they make good ignorant soldiers

reply@If our service people can't act like civilized humans when they are the guests of a foreign country, we should pull them out and close the bases.

Actually, the Japanese don't want the Americans to pull out. The reason they became so prosperous in the first place is because they have the US to take care of the bulk of their own military defense, freeing up funds to contribute to their rapid economic growth back in the day.
The Japanese need the US more than they admit.

>> freeing up funds
The Japanese pays billions of dollars every year for the US military to be stationed in the bases. What? You thought the Americans are gonna protect some East Asian country whom they have warred with before for free?

^ that aside:

"The Japanese need the US more than they admit"
... so the population should just shut up and take the abuse?

They're there as postwar occupiers, and the largest payments were more like reparation money. Most of the monetary payments came AFTER Japan grew more affluent, and the US realized that Japan was capable of contributing to their upkeep.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omoiyari_Yosan

The money Japan pays to USFJ pales in comparison to how much it would cost them to build up a sufficient military force themselves again after their demilitarization.

The US only stayed on in Japan first as occupiers, then as a strategic buffer against communists. There were never any illusions that the US is doing it for free.

The Japanese population shouldn't take the abuse, but then, they have no choice. It is because they are over-reliant on the US. It is like a parent child relationship. Even if your dad smacks you, you aren't gonna run outside and live on the streets yourself. Japan would probably suck it up and let the US get away with it. This is politics and life is unfair.

Weren't there something about Japan possibly getting their own army due to threathening launches from north korea? And The US need more soliders down to the middle east to mess up another country.

The majority of the would already thinks of you as a bunch of idiots, and is correct in that assessment.
But don't worry, this is not exclusive to the US.

''army wo/men arnt paid to think, thats why they make good ignorant soldiers''

As a great man ones said.

''He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. ''

To Anon at 20:47

When a country needs to engage in armed conflict the ideal army is one composed of idividualists, philosophers, and epigramists.
(just reinforcing the obvious, this is sarcasm).

a reply from same anon as > 20:11 05/12/2009 and 17:11 05/12/2009

Well if the US left, what would Japan do?

"Dear China, although I know we invaded your country and slaughtered millions of your people barely a century ago, but could you please look away for a few years as I build up my own forces?"

Hello? It's gonna trigger an arms race. Japan increases military expenditure, China increases theirs, repeat. US can't intervene if no war breaks out, but Japan's already precarious economy would be thrown into chaos as it continues to pump money into weapons.

And then comes the question of men. Do you think the pampered self-absorbed Japanese males of today would be able to take conscription, unlike their neighbors Taiwan and South Korea, who have compulsary military service? Ask them what it feels like, compared to them Japan has been having it easy. And add to the fact that Japan has an aging population. And if every male entered conscription, the economy would lose thousands of years in labor hours.

The US can put its troops in Japan because its under the brand name "US". If Japan increases its own forces, China will definitely not allow it.

And then, there's NORTH KOREA, which, unlike China, is actually openly hostile to Japan and has threatened the country directly.

I'm not an American nor US supporter, but its as clear as day that Japan needs the US. Those here against US presence in Japan are probably all-talk idealists themselves who will end up raising children similar to those in the article.

being a US service member I find events like this extremely annoying with people that can't control their kids, and worse yet other service members that do the stupidest shit in other countries... it makes us look bad and really doesn't help the locals support us any...

sadly i can say with confidence that a lot of my fellow service members (all branches really..) are dumber than nails, although many have good intentions they're just not all there...

its hard to seperate yourself from the idiots sometimes as it is in the civilian world as well..

i still think those kids need their asses beat just like the rest of the world disciplines their offspring... it almost doesn't exist anymore here in the states its retarded...

@EroManga
There are THREE guys and ONE girl.
Dipshit.

If they are on a U.S. base they are technically on U.S. soil. Japan lost that soil when they decided to drop bombs on Hawaii.

Ah, ignorant as always. That base is still Japanese soil. In my country there is also a US base. But, its a shared facility with the local military.

The US having bases around the world is not for defending the host country. For Japan,the US is obligated into defending them militarily under some weird WWII treaty. Bases in foreign countries is just a way of getting around quickly if any trouble occurs. Like if there is an issue with N.Korea, US troops based in Hawaii, S.Korea and Japan will react first. Troops from mainland US will take too long to arrive at the scene. Not to mention that the main bulk of US troops other than the National Guards are based in S.Korea/Japan(East Asia), Hawaii+Guam(Pacific), Western Europe, India Ocean, Middle East (due to that war). Will take more than 12 hours to arrive.

Anyways if people think that Japan is defenseless without American aid, then should think twice or not trice. Japan's own military is actually quite sophisticated. Not to mention, at one point in time there is a report that said they are able to produce atomic weapons under a war time scenario.

That must explain why that nk MISSILE "test" LAUCH flew the FUCK right over Japan with only the American PATRIOT missiles stationed strategically all over Japan to protect them back in '05... oh, I was stationed there then and the hysteria by the Japanese was hilarious.

Japan does have a 'sorta' self defense force that has NEver cut its teeth in Death - Dismemberment - Delirium often popularized by hollyweird elites, but seriously. When they where deployed during the war in Iraq, the most dangerous thing that threatened them was splinters and getting accidentally run over by a truck.

So if nk tastes fresh bait out of Japan if America pulls completely out and retreats back to its 'sorta' island state. Skorea and Guam. The starving masses of nk soldiers would pull a genghis clan REAP and Pillage on them soon.. right after they kill all those treehuggin college students who always cry out for unification of Korea and obliterate Seoul to boot! Reaping and so forth will follow... Remember that tiny arab state that got destroyed by saddam?

Same. Fucking. SHIT.. will be happening too.

What Japan can do is hire and train Taiwanese soldiers. Taiwanese are more acceptable than Chinese or Koreans. And for the lucky Taiwanese chosen, they get to play with much safer Japanese military equipment than the Taiwanese kind and Taiwan gets trained soldier at the end of the tour.

you're fucking retarded...why would Taiwanese soldiers help Japan, they have other things to worry about

@Dirty_Dingus008: Stop your freaking delusions and prove that anyone needs you outside your own borders. It is like saying that only because I jump daily four times, the earth won't leave its elleptical course around the sun because I am pushing it back. You think you are "out there to keep the world safe and together"? No boy, if it is not to loot oil and other ressources, then to solidify your power in regions which could get "nasty", with anything on the West beeing able to easily reach you.
Of course, this can result in positive or negative results for other nations. But thats not why you are there.

One wonder if those "kids" speak any Japanese, or do they see The Japanese as enemy. Their dads should tell them WW2 has already ended.

I would wonder at this too.
I mean would they do this if they were in America where the likelyhood of killing/injuring another American would be higher?

And I think it's disgusting that their parents wouldn't hand them over to the police. Disgusting that the police even need to get permission just cus they're from the bloody US army.
Parents should be arrested for prevention of duty or soemthing like that.

So if you're in the army and you do something wrong and you're an adult, do you have to give them permission to arrest you?

@17:06 05/12/2009 And why are you posting in here instead of calling childrens-care? Beating without a proper reason tranceds between bullying and torture, not punishing. They will hate you and treat their kid the same, which actually results in more little dumb fucks. Think Liam Gallagher.

You're absolutely right, lumping up entire nation of people for that is just as stupid and incite more problems.

Those kids did stupid thing and their circumstances most likely allowed them to do such things. What happen was probably the end result of series of problems.

you need to lump the entire nation together as idiots, this way the smart ones can tell the stupid ones to stop acting stupid. Otherwise, why tell an idiot he is an idiot, he will think its a compliment!

The problem is ALL the americans stationed in Japan are JUST LIKE THAT.

Maybe a small percent of americans in the US are just dandy, but americans living in foreign soils are DICKS.

they had shit parents who are wasting oxygen

no nation is to blame

the end.

...and hypocrisy is limited to angry generalists.
Why do we only see the worst in each other's countries?

@Anon 17:33
It was pretty surprising hearing about that, but now that I think about it, it makes more sense, seeing as intelligence isn't one of the requirements to get into the army. Most people I hear saying they'll join the army are typically mindless idiots who simply joined because they had no hope of getting a normal job.....it's people like these that probably make us all look like idiots over here.

And yes, about the fact that I didn't know much about that stuff, you never hear about it around here because they probably don't want us to hear about it, cuz it'd further tarnish the u.s.'s reputation.

I wonder if people think you don't really need any intelligence to get into the armed forces. Maybe not so much as a infantrymen, but if you're an officer You'd better be more intelligent and educated than the vast majority of people in this world.

It's not that the people who enter service as infantrymen are idiots. Some are, sure, but some others are just poor with little education and come from a difficult, often violent background.

Lack of education leads to MANY other issues like how they percieve the exterior world, their reactions to it, and ultimately the way they raise their kids to repeat the process.

Bullshit about needing to be more intelligent and educated than the vast majority of people in this world to be a military officer.
What my time in the military taught me, and if you look at the current state of things, how the war in Iraq hasn't really progressed for ages, was that the higher ups are most definitely not more intelligent and educated than the vast majority of people in this world.
If they were, don't you think they would've gotten more done by now?
They're all useless old men, high on the smell of their own shit.

but thanks to the US you are in a recession with a black president

You win some and you lose some.

oi! what does having a black president have to do with that?

Thanks to US we lost large part of our land to Russia. Germany was helping us when you fucked them up :'(

I'll rather have a united Europe at any cost, if not for them meddling newcomers.
Freedom is overrated.

So you're blaming a black president for a recession eight years in the making.

Real classy.

Thanks to Us Americans the Japanese are more American then we are, just not as fat...yet!

The US was in a recession several years before it elected Obama.

Why thank the US? The Russians are the ones that defeated Hitler... The only thing D-day actually acomplished was freeing France...

Exactly!! The American's only went to war when they saw that Germany was starting to lose. They went to war so they can gain from the win.
It looks that all those video games and movies making Americans look like the ones who defeated the Nazis really worked on some people minds.
They ones who gave everything to stop them were Europeans and Russians. And that's the truth.

America went to war to protect it's Imperial colonial interests which were being threatened by the Japanese, the war in Europe was to help our Allies but also to gain political control for future Imperial Colonial enterprises. America still has many colonies although we've given freedom to many of them by now. The US/British/Soviets divided up the world after WW2, only difference between us and the Nazis was instead of Genocide and bizarre master race ideas we wanted to to capitalize financially by crushing smaller countries to make our lives better in middle America. Ultimately we turned on the Russians and made the British our bitch.

we don not thanks the US for what they did in WWII, all they did is attack the Germans when they're nearly defeated by the Soviet army. And the US throws 2 atomic bombs in Hiroshima and Nagasaki for distribution rights at negotiating table after the war, that's massacre.

Bawwwww

You came to a war in the later stages and claimed the glory. Typical of you egotistical faggots.

Gee, because it's not like the U.S. provided a shitload of logistical and vehicular support to Russia so Russia could continue to fight as well as acting with the British to open up a second front which Russia requested. It was a goddamn team effort. U.S. had to build up its armies for combat in the west. Until then they made lots and lots of shit for the U.K. and Russia to use.

which incredibly they could produce even with the US in a big recession.

and the biggest contribution to the defeat of the Axis is
1) the British counter intelligence movement
2) hitler fucked up by pushing into russia

no matter how much a country wants to compensate themselves for something by pouring their countries funds into big guns doesn't make them superior.

and the fact that every time the only argument to cement a position by the layman is that they help out in kicking someones ass in WW2 doesn't exclude the other screw ups that has been manufactured after WW2

Thanks to the americans, im not starring in a german prono or a japanese AV... Thank fucking You America <3

People didn't choose freedom over fascism in world war II. They chose globalism over fascism; globalism will be just as totalitarian as fascism....you just don't know it yet. I think in a few decades people will realize it, but by then it's far too late.

is that a pun I see there? :)

Everyone should watch Hetalia.

I like Japan and Germany.
And Italy is an idiot.

@ Blitz

Good! This world was in need of another war. The reason there's so much bullshit in this world today is because we don't have anything fun to keep us busy.

We're all going to die. Might as well be with a face full of bullets.

its called ignorance... and with the way most parents are doing their parenting these days... its only going to get worse... the kids never learn that there are negative consequences to certain kinds of actions, nor do they learn to respect other people who are not the same. the US is sliding toward isolationism... again...

hooray failure?

By the comments here I thought a lot of you would prefer isolationism. No diversity, no discrimination.

Most people prefer isolationism. Some of them just don't know it. It's human nature, really.

People always like to group together on some sort of common ground, whether it be religion or race or skin colour or even political views...

That is why there is so much intolerance and discrimination on the internet and in multi-cultural societies...

Canada for example has no national identity. Very few people choose to call themselves Canadian.

As for your previous comment on "globalism" I can see what you mean. Given enough time, "liberal/moral" fags like EU politicians and Equality Now (or death!) will try to force totalitarians laws againts anything that they believe is immoral...

porn!? no. degrades women.
2D porn!?!? no. it harms virtual women...
2D porn loli!?!?!!?!?!?? child molestor jailed.

No, just your children, stupid!

Good thing Japan can defend itself just fine.. oh wait

Most news comes from said country.

You will hate it, but get over it.

maybe they hoped if driver was male they would have cut off penis...