12-Year-Old Boy Rapes 19-Year-Old Woman

Like in Spain, muslims in Sweden are sucking up country's resources.

They've rised a global wealth system with their hard work and those bastards are just exploiting it.

But, OH MAN! Saying such things is so politically incorrect... FUCK political correctness.

I'm not xenophobe, I'm islamophobe.

Blitx speks tueth

This is what happens when you let 3rd world muslim filth take over your country. Note it says "resident". The Swedes are not a violent people; you know as well as I do what the situation really is.

The article goes "boy resident from southern sweden" and due to obvious bias people are already bashing "muslims" and "imigrants".Xenophobic reflexes are the way to go.

you guys are only looking at the extremes..

me wonders when was the last time any of you guys actually interacted, if at all, with a Muslim.

humans prefer to choose default, just because they choose to follow their own cultural religion doesn't mean that they're all the same, and the majority definitely aren't extremists.. and please don't give me the 'most of them are' bullshit.

if we're going to judge an entire race due to some selfish bastards, well lets not go into that...

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regarding that "Sensitive Urban Areas"

please don't piss me off..

that isn't a culture issue, that's a social one, in fact most of it is..

and as for the 'karma' stuff, people go to where the money is, it's as simple as that.

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as for that forced secularisation stoof.

I'd support that anyday, and it isn't that hard to achieve.. instead of wasting money on a war, provide basic things like education and other things.

if any of you guys make some money go visit Dubai or another oil rich country.. it's pretty cool..

nevertheless you guys don't understand what you are advocating, or what Blitz is advocating..

a place where different races/cultures don't mix..

lul.

@Shuu

'An Islamic country that meets all 3 criteria? I don't think so...'

Shuu ever been to Dubai, Brunei, or any other oil rich country.

It ain't that different to any other country. just some cultural norms are different, for the most part people are content with just living their lives..

Bosnia. I think Indonesia and Malaysia meet at least two.

that was my fault for not seeing the criteria, I'd like to apologize I'm tired, been doing work all day.. duno how I missed that actually.. tehe~ >_>..

nevertheless I was merely saying that the majority aren't the extremist/savages that so many seem to believe.

I've always advocated equality and democracy, I'm merely saying that at a fundamental level most immigrants will just want to earn some money.. that's when the social problems come in.

nevertheless I'm sure Blitz will eventually post a load of information about how Sharia law spreading throughout Europe, so I'll say this..

I dislike and would protest against Sharia law whenever I could, and yes traditions are hard to break, although education and opportunities can do wonders.. but to punish an entire community due to a select few is pretty sorry for using the term 'unfair'.

Sweden = Good Cars, good furniture, great models, but pussy politicians.

Could this be the single longest debate ever to rage in a reply field at Sankaku Complex?

^ Not sure about that, we did have some really long ones in the past too...
　
@MelancholyMomo:
You're not serious, are you?
　
Brunei is NOT a democracy, and neither is Dubai (no matter what they'd like tourists to think). Both countries implement Shariah law, so they also don't meet the first and second criteria, not even if they use a relatively liberal approach. Women are still being discriminated against (divorce and inheritance law for example) and many things are illegal, i.e. punishable by law (as opposed to just facing the consequences within your religious community) that plain and simply should not be illegal. People being content with just living their lives is not an excuse, since that has nothing to do with these 3 criteria. And besides, people deserve better than just that when all it takes is to simply secularize the government.
　
Also, I think we can agree that Saudi Arabia is rich in oil. You won't attest meeting even one criterion to that country now, will you?
　
Let's face it, Islam as state religion and freedom do not mix.

Whenever you see us as racist or not the fact is still there. Most of our crimes, in this case rapecrimes, are done by our immigrants.
I've long said that they are welcome here,all I demand in return is that they behave, but instead when I go out I get call racist for walking around in a blue shirt with something yellow on it. I don't even think we should jail them when they break the law, we should send them straight back home to their own country.

^lol, shouldn't say that.
But seriously Blizt, how come immigration smearing them?
If you do not want them gone crazy, try to embrace them, not being discriminate to minority. Try to be like France!

As mentioned earlier, Islam doesn't show a lot of respect to Europeans, or peoples of any other group, for that matter. Moving Islam to Europe isn't going to solve anything, it's just importing the problems with the Islamic immigrants.

Regarding France....I suppose you aren't aware of the "Sensitive Urban Areas", where the police dare not venture. I was in Paris in June, and the city itself was bad enough. In most parts, the Muslims outnumber the natives. What's going on in France is simply colonization; maybe that's karma, I'm not sure. Either way, the "French" way is not a right way, it's capitulation. That wasn't intended as a joke, but I suppose that's in line with what one would expect given recent history....

This article, originally posted in The Washington Times, may prove enlightening (feel free to skim it if you do read, it's a bit long):

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/1416

problem is that mostly of the immigrants are being nationalized or are 2nd or 3rd generation, so they can t be kicked out.
Another thing ... is there one islamic country country in the world that respects the human rights, the freedom of speech and is democratic ?

I agree that Blitz is an asshole. However, he's also right. Still, fighting immigration is not the solution, in fact, it'd still be wrong even if it could somehow ease the problem. It is true however that the problem must be fought at it's root, i.e. countries that are under Islamic rule. It's an undeniable fact that there is a silent invasion of Islam into every corner of this world and every level of society. It's also a fact that Islam oppresses women. If you can't add one and one together, you're simply a fool.

I'm supportive of the idea that these countries must be secularized and democratized, by force if necessary. The problem with the situation today (Afghanistan, Iraq etc.) is that the western powers are there for their own egoistic and selfish reasons, not for the sake of people in these countries and the greater good of humanity. If they were, they'd also be in Somalia and Sudan, and even Saudi Arabia...

The problem with immigration is the twisted idea of 'tolerance' harbored by the leftist governments of the countries that suffer most under the Islamic onslaught. People need to realize that the whole 'multiculti' idea is simply isolation in disguise. There can't be true freedom and equality like this. Protecting a person's individual choices also means protecting them from the people of their own background.
A raped and honor-killed women can't continue to live as a Moslem...

An Islamic country that meets all 3 criteria? I don't think so...

malaria is an islamic country that respects the human rights, the freedom of speech and is democratic ?

hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahah

just some info:
1) human rights
they have laws for enforcing "native" privilege that non-native citizen cannot enjoy. its like saying the indians in US has more right than "non-native" white people. there are some uni that only natives can enter. regardless of your grades in high school or whatsoever

2) freedom of speech
you can go to jail if you shout anything in public that is bad and considered "harmful to the peace of the country". try shouting islam is ***** and see what happens. though (some) REAL criminals run free...

3) democratic
on the outside? yes...

Already posted this.

2 fails in the same day!lol O_O

This entire debate was over the second anyone brought up naziism.

Anonymous
05:15 30/11/2009 Bad (-0.6)

You're not, anyone could tell from his posts what he's all about. Reminds me that sweden has also a high nazi rate...

Yep, should've ended here.

@Anon 10:03
Thing is, in Sweden if the paper says someone is Swedish, you can expect them to be a non-european immigrant. Otherwise they'll write ethnic swede or european with swedish citizenship.

Also
>implying human rights as defined by the UN isn't BS
>implying the UN isn't cancer

Racist alert!
Neo-Nazi Wannabe!

Malaysia is in no way meeting any of the 3 criteria. enjoy your blasphemy.

I'm the anon of 05:05 30/11/2009.
Nope, not a forum goer.

Sorry, just noting something I find particularly interesting.

As for your whole stance.. There is no singular Islam anymore than there is a singular Christianity. There are a lot of varying branches, all professing to be of the same faith and the true faith, and all busily bickering whether or not the others belong and whether or not a compromise is possible.

See Catholics vs Protestant in N.Ireland for a fairly recent Christian version and essentially the equivalent of the whole Suni-Shiite strife.

As for the whole immigration thing. Things are hardly that simple. Take a look see at the birth numbers in W.Europe, they're declining, they're not as bad yet as Japan's, but they're following the same trend.

Who do you think will be paying for your social security? And no, you won't be paying it for yourself, you're currently paying for your grandparents.

Toss in the whole social-economical issues not that dissimilar to those faced by African-Americans in the US. Combined with limited education, due to these folks often being from the more agrarian sections of their respective countries. As well as hostility by the locals, further fueling a sense of alienation and making the BS spewed by rabid fundamentalists all the more attractive etc etc.

It's not something all that easily solved, especially not as a number of these folks are sometimes second to third generation, born in the country in question, but still treated as if they were outsiders. Having limited access to good schooling, like I said, similar issues as faced by African-Americans etc etc.

It's just a cycle that keeps repeating itself, if someone doesn't break the chain and try to find an equitable way out for all involved.

As for the whole reasonable muslims thing. Try Suffi's. Met a number of them over the years, all of them fully integrated into society, hard working, civic minded, law abiding, and the type of coworkers that you'd actually want to have, because they'll have your back when the digestive material hits the rapidly oscillating metal blades.

As for the whole name an Islamic Country that respects those three tenets. Name a "Christian" one, I'm willing to wager that I can point out some violations on their part as well, thus nullifying their candidacy for sainthood. :P

Here you can read about how democratic Dubai is.
Shorter:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/dubai-has-always-been-ban_b_372795.html
Longer:
http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html

Blitz speaks the truth.

http://www.thelocal.se/19376/20090511/

what rape is legally defined as, is different in Sweden.. same in Canada, and Australia..

ever wondered why all three have such high rape rates..?

you guys are being narrow-minded.

Indeed he is..

Swede > Arab.
Did you know that Swedish people have no culture, atleast that is what the PM of Swedens biggest party says.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mona_Sahlin

My suspicion is certainly not without evidence; and yes, you can attack the vikings all you want. They may have been quite brutal, but the fact of the matter is, they don't exist anymore. The groups primarily responsible for the surge in rapes in Sweden today are, however, and something needs to be done to prevent it from getting worse.

Actually, vikings were mostly peaceful tradesmen. It was mostly former nationalistic/fascistic parties and lately Hitler's Nazi party that romanticised the vikings as brutal warriors (Hitler went as far as to call them descendants of the Germanic people.

Hearing that from you makes me wonder, what will you do to 'prevent it from getting worse'?

Someone needs Neo-Nazi? Current trend.

@Blizt: Talking about how bad Islam(or any other religions or races) from your suspicion without proof is being prejudiced.

I can talk how brutal Sweden because of their viking gods and their Odin to kills other Europeans.

@Flaskis : Truth to be told. At least try to understand them, not despise them.
Or maybe Blizt used same method from evil big nations like 'false accusation and baseless allegation' due to his suspicion that leads thousands innocent lives lost in 2 countries?

@Anon 06:07: Does that mean you can say bad to all non-swedish there? Aren't they actually legally swedish by law? Why discrimination arise in sweden, while only non-swedish did crime?
how about other white swedish?

Flaskis, wouldn't the better solution be to fix the problems plaguing the land from which these immigrants are coming (via funding for education, for example)? Immigration isn't fixing the problem, it's just smearing it around.

When I read this in our paper (Aftonbladet) I did also conclude the boy was not Swedish,it's the way they wrote the article.

But Blitz, something most muslim haters and other nationalist party people are missing is this: Instead of shutting them out (which is going against human rights, and Sweden is already in a bad position with the UN's human rights department) nations should try to find the root of the problem. In this case, whole southern Sweden is getting infected by non-swedes not understanding how you should behave in a society. And because of the conditions, they learn from each other making this problem escalate further.
It's funny to see how we humans are the most intelligent and at the same time the stupidest being on this planet. When will we ever learn from our mistakes? weren't two world wars enough?

Blitz: No, it's just the whole statistic boom by comparing Sweden's high rape report rate along with southern Sweden's immigrant's harsh living condition (where in the worst parts 20% live in poverty) making them commit crimes more frequently.

Blizt speaks the truth, you know.
About his pathetic biased info, without proof the boy was muslim or immigrant. I bet he was you when you're younger. Pimp much?

I wonder which brave forum user is logging out to post as anon while using ad hominem attacks...can't do any better than that? What a shame.

I hope you aren't trying to imply that I did it... >_>..

I won't deny voting it up though.

And you using ad hominem attack to certain religion just because of act from some, which is really biased and ignorant.
West product as always

Blizt = Asshole

I would argue some more but..

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Yes, I edited it out after realizing it was just going to start a flame war, which was not my intention

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very well I shall leave it at that

Am I the only one who thinks, Blitz's Avatar to be oddly appropriate considering his stance on immigration and related subjects?

Schrobby became a dog again

You're not, anyone could tell from his posts what he's all about. Reminds me that sweden has also a high nazi rate...

Flaskis, there's no proof of it either way, but I have high suspicions due to the wording of the article and its source. In either case it's dragged the overall situation into the spotlight.

@ Anonymous 05:13: Blitz is most likely a fanatic of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats
And on the subject. Where has there ever been any clue as to if this boy was muslim or not?

Thanks for obvious info, dude. Taking you awhile to post crap?
I spoke the truth about you being an asshole. It seems many agreed with me. You don't know which Islam you're talking about.

Peace Be Upon You (Except Blizt, a brainwashed sweden hater, a product of propaganda)

It hardly matters. What is known is that rape was a rare occurrence before all this immigration, and now it's the "rape capital". No matter how they define rape, there's been a huge surge in crime.

Go post your spin somewhere else.

@ Anonymous: In case you don't know what an ad hominem attack is, I've gone through the trouble of copying the wikipedia definition for you.

"An ad hominem argument, also known as argumentum ad hominem (Latin: "argument to the person" or "argument against the person") is an argument which links the validity of a premise to an irrelevant characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.[1]"

Yes, I am attacking Islam. And not without premise, either. Islam promotes that we Westerners are infidels and they will treat us like infidels. How you can possibly deny that it is immigration that has increased crime rates also confuses me, care to explain?

Oh and yes, please do, demonize me as some sort of right wing fanatic; that's what you people are good at, right? It should be common sense, that if I were such, I wouldn't be here in the first place. Nice try, though.

I hate to break your xenophobic bubble, Blitz. But rape is something that has existed for the entire human history, no matter what religion people have belonged to (as if that really matters).

Plus, afaik the so called "muslim filth" haven't "taken over Sweden".

My post had +4 because I spoke the truth?
Blizt = Asshole again

Blame the growth hormones in our food.

;) What did you think all those chemicals in our food nowadays were for? Those preservatives aren't for the food.

[Edit], Damn, comment stolen while writing it.