“MS Banned 600,000 from Xbox Live, Aims at 1,000,000”


Microsoft’s ongoing crackdown on pirates and modded Xbox 360s is said to have resulted in 600,000 Xbox Live accounts being banned from North America alone, with more to follow…

The “disturbing truth” runs thus:

A conversation with a friend who works for a call center that handles an Xbox 360 account has yielded a disturbing truth: Microsoft has started its annual Xbox Live banning spree and it has disabled 600,000 accounts so far in the US and Canada.

The target of the banning spree are mainly people who have modified their consoles to play pirated games. My trusty source says that they have been given instructions to push for a million banned accounts by the time the holidays are over.

Leaving aside the question of the reliability of this “trusty source,” it is obvious Microsoft has banned a very large number of Xboxes, and an even larger number of Xbox Live accounts.

Such is the ire of these unhappy pirates that the man in charge of Xbox Live has been subjected to the usual deluge of Internet harassment, with him reporting death threats against himself, his family and even his dogs, along with threatening calls throughout the night.

For those interested, the chat logs of his (genuine) appearance on IRC to beg/threaten his stalkers into stopping are visible below:




The threats relented after he mentioned they were being reported to police – with the bans evidently proving quite effective, it seems the Xbox 360’s noisy pirate community is proving quite the pushover so far.

Via Hachimaki.

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    Avatar of motaku96
    Comment by motaku96
    17:12 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    4chan fails. They should really know when their taking things too far. Though I can't say I fully approve of the ban and I lol'd each time he said his dogs were getting death threats.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:35 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not like I connect my modded 360 to the internet anyways because of this. Further reason why I should continue pirating.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:49 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hahahha, because they actually try and stop pirates (from stealing THERE stuff) you are further justified in being a pirating thief asswhole? Good luck trying to convince people you being an asswhole is justified by MS trying to stop you being an asswhole.

    WHa Wha the cops stopped me trying to rape a girl, I guess I am justified in doing it!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:32 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Banned Xbox 360s can still play pirated games. They simply cannot log onto XBL, have access to Media Center, install games onto the HDD, and a few other features. Hardly the end of the world and for pirates to threaten others with violence is truly pathetic.

    Also, this ban wave is more then playing bad rips or playing games early. Looks like Microsoft can detect modded firmware this time around so nobody is safe who has modded their system.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:11 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    woohoo we should all get our paperweight xboxes and throw them in front of ms :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:10 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh how the parasites weep...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:41 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You say this with Steve Baller's cock in your mouth.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:30 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    serves them right?
    this is like criminals bitching at cops for them getting caught.
    there's only three reasons you want to pirate:
    1. you're ten.
    2. you're poor.
    3. you're a rich asshole.

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    Comment by Sulraen
    04:46 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2 !!!! I`m poor and hungry !!!!111

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:00 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, the only reason I would mod a 360 would be to play imported games from Japan. The funny thing is, the whole region-protect thing is a violation of international free trade laws, so they shouldn't be putting in region protection in the first place. Why ban people for setting things right with their consoles? This just finalizes my decision to jump for the PS3, despite it's flaws compared to the 360.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:06 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sankaku internet lawyers are the best.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:30 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry Anonymous, I might ask you to please define what these "Internation free trade laws" are. There is no such thing. The whole world is not in some sort of grand customs union where there are no tariffs or quotas. They still exist and since the Doha round 8 years ago, the members of the WTO are still bickering over things such as agriculture.

    Why do companies participate in region coding? The answer is simple. It is called price discrimination. They are trying to extract as much surplus they can from the consumer as to increase profits.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:39 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The fact they can "ban" your system which is in YOUR posession after buying it seems illegal already.Once you buy something regardless of contract in FULL.That item is 100% yours,unless your ripping off the design to sell it as your own.They have no right to damage,or disable it.However what isnt right is game pirating when the games ARE available in the pirates country etc.I believe someone else pointed out "region-control software" is against the international trade law.However the case certain games and DVD's not available in the US etc can ONLY BE PLAYED on a either modded Xbox,or Import model (meaning all the games would have to be the import type aswell)Thus defeating the purpose.Also the ridiculous failure rate,and lack of GOOD console-specific games (Halo ODST and GoW2 were garbage fillers) it seems rather retarded to scare away the only other fans youve got.I have a PS3,and I was thinking of getting an Xbox but for all I know simply saying "PS3" on XBL (WHICH SHOULD BE *UCKING FREE) may get me banned.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:05 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They have the right to ban you from Xbox Live if you break their terms of use, just like stadium organisers have the right to kick you out of a football audience if you cause trouble, even if you've paid for a ticket.

    04:28 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They can ban it from XBL but they can't ban the HD or brick it or prevent the modded console from playing new games.
    Self destructing property you own violates this law if it happens take them to court.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson–Moss_Warranty_Act]

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    Comment by mi
    19:55 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the dead of their 'live'

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:43 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can see the death of XBL happening very soon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:57 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Isn't he what you call a cyber terrorist? Attacking and sabotaging or destroying consumer devices, albeit with EULA on his side, but that is no contract in most countries. And terrorism isn't excused by any EULAs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:53 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Terrorism is UNLAWFUL destruction and terrorising of innocent people. I see no innocence in the pirates and I see no lawful action in there thefts.
    There was no violence, terror or intimidation from MS, just a simple banning of items used to illegally acquire products. With the EULA and TOS being broken too they are perfectly in there rights and it's the pirates that have done the bad things.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:40 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    MS has committed stuff that could be called terrorism since 1988.
    A good example would be what they pulled in 1989 in an attempt to kill BTRON.
    We could have a a real OS as a standard vs the ox cart of shit we have now.
    If someone steals from microsoft all I can say is good.
    They are a company that needs for their to die and the sooner the better.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:23 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My question is how they "know" you're running a modded console. I have two 360 consoles, one of which is a legitimately purchased NTSC-J unit that I play import games on. My North American Live account has a number of import games listed, along with various achievements obtained.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:39 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Microsoft's Xbox360 is threading the path of self destruction....(._.) Without piracy there is no reason to stay with Microsoft. Time to become friends with Sony.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:02 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Their not doing anything different then what they were previously doing, which is, banning consoles with bad ripped games.
    People are just downloading bad rips of Modern Warfare 2, and that's resulting in a ban.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:52 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    okay, a whole lot of people are really missing the big point.

    It's not the fact that if you are pirating or not that's disturbing. It's the fact that companies are allowed to control the hardware you own.

    Think about it. Since when is something you paid hard cash for not yours anymore. It's your hardware. You should be allowed to do whatever you want with it. Banning someone off the XBOX Live network is justifyable since it's MS' own network. However, reaching in to blow up your hardware to render it useless is waaaaay over bound.

    If the trend continues, soon you'll have TOS on everything.

    You bought a car and the TOS says it's only allowed to run in your state. Cross the state? BOOM! your engine is dead because they blow up a little chip inside your control board.

    Bought a new house? Well, it's comes with a TOS that you are not allowed to paint your wall, plant more tulips. If you do? BOOM! they blow up a little chip in your furnice's control board. Yeah you can LIVE there, but there is no heat.

    Let me say it again, when did it start that we don't own thing we buy anymore? Do we really want to allow companies these kind of power on your posession?

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:54 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh yeah, and on the chip reference, what my friend told me is that each XBOX has this chip in the circuit board. If they detected you they run surges over it and basically fries it.

    Currently there is no way to replicate or bypass that because it's encrypted.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:12 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Xbox 360s don't include hard drive installation by default, this was added by MS in an upgrade. So how exactly are they rendering it useless again? Was it useless when you bought it, before you connected to Live to update it and agreed to their terms and conditions?

    More like you rented a cable TV decoder for your house and agreed to terms and conditions that you wouldn't misuse it. If you do, they cut your service off and ask for the decoder back and that's that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:45 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hilarity, these people steal games while game artists and developers lose jobs, and they see nothing wrong with that.

    Fuckwits, keep stealing and there won't be any decent game studios left... only ones that cater to the idiotic fanboys that will pay for anything.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:11 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If the cost of games were reasonable, people would buy them. See any recent statistics from Steam. When L4D went on sale at 50% off, sales grew something like 3000%. No, that is not a typo. Three Thousand Per Cent. People are willing to buy games when they are affordable. When they aren't, people don't. It's nothing to do with the game artists or developers. It's the idiotic publishers who decide to charge too damn much.

    Your statement about "stealing" is quite silly. Nothing material is taken from the companies. They've already spent the money they were going to spend to develop the game. No one is taking that from them. Their income comes from sales. Thing is, no one is obligated to buy. Just because a company spends millions of dollars on a title does not mean that I or anyone else has to buy it from them. Nothing is being taken. The company is just failing to sell. Whose fault is it that the company is failing to sell the product they invested in so heavily? The only two groups involved in the sale is the seller and the consumer, and as I stated, the consumer is under no obligation to buy. That leaves just one group: the seller.

    Stop blaming consumers for corporate failure.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:58 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Even if the price is too high theft is illegal, what you should do is wait for the price to go down and play other games till then. You cannot excuse pirating (which often has people pirate games and then not pay for them AT ALL) by just saying the stuff is over priced. Console games here in the UK go for £35 to £45 retail and go down to £20 (about half price) within a year usually. Your saying you can steal shit because a year is too long to wait?

    YOUR choosing to not buy it immediately so that means YOU should be the one to wait for the price to go down. You shouldn't receive the benefit of getting an illegal copy for free, with no obligation of purchase, right away just because you don't want to be patient.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:19 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, you are saying that I should be permitted to steal an Audi because I feel the prices are too high?

    lol... nice work sherlock.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:11 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm glad microsoft is committing suicide, I always hated xbox anyway. It just gives people an excuse to go buy a PS3.. lol. Why bother paying extra money for xbox live when you can use a system with better graphics, FREE access, and bluray built in? Either that or mod it and just don't use online services. :)

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    Comment by Sulraen
    04:37 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    things not so simple as u think, better graphics? not really especially if it`s multiplatform, free network? It`s lag as hell I had 2 ps3 they both was loading friend list for 10 minutes and ps3 have less of good games. Blueray? BD is great but it`s cost soooo much in my country

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:27 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    piracy is illegal and they have the right to eliminate the source of piracy a.k.a modded xbox360s
    dont bitch about ur xbox not working properly anymore
    if u steal then be prepared of the consequences
    go buy urself a real one and play it like it is

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:43 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    we have just determined someone used your TV to watch an illegal dvd and have send in our elite squad to your house to destroy your TV.

    As an avid supporter of Big Corporation, I am sure you would gladly cooperate. We thank you for your cooperation.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:30 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Interesting thing - one friend was complaining that he bought a new blu-ray player and tried to play a Spiderman movie on it. He have large LCD television. The BR player always check if the television is really a television (and not a PC/recorder or anything else what can be used for piracy) via some feedback. Since his television is quite old it didnt supported this, so the BR player just said that it wont play anything.
    Solution was simple - he used pirated software to simulate the feedback and is now playind legaly bought movie via pirated software.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:08 11/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A public service announcement to all the people whining and bitching about how Microsoft have no right to do this, how it's illegal, how they're actually digital terrorists remotely detonating all your miniature World Trade Centres... MICROSOFT'S LAWYERS KNOW MORE ABOUT THE LAW THAN YOU DO. IF THERE WAS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST CHANCE THIS WAS ILLEGAL, OR THEY COULD BE SUED FOR IT, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

    Every time I see someone post here who thinks they know more about the law than Microsoft's extremely highly paid legal team, I die a little inside.

    Thank you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:17 13/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, because it isn't like Microsoft would do something so unscrupulous as throwing money at a problem to make it go away. /sarcasm

    I'm sure the only reason they have lawyers is so they know whose palms to grease in the legal hierarchy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:18 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If this makes playing on Xbox Live a little more quite and mature, I say it's ALL GOOD.

    Lol ... quite and mature ... on Xbox Live ... but it COULD happen, right?

    Comment by cloudninja
    09:19 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crap .... I wasn't logged in ... I apologize ...

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    Comment by JanusVX
    09:44 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    pfft. Like everyone said, I believe that its just another hapless ploy to get sells figures up. Tell me is it just coincidence that they decided to do it with christmas around the corner? I dont think sooooo.it really is a 25/75 through up with MS on the losing side of the ratio. Check it: pirates only bought the system in the first place to modd games and stuff. Being the initial and only cost for running decent games was a brilliant trade off. Now that MS has "banned" their HDD's, do you really think they wont find another way around it? I say they will find an alternative before christmas, and MS will be royally screwed over. Im pretty sure, honestly ppl who play on XBL will get caught in the crossfire, and they will lose their already dwindling fan base. Why ban the few (40%) working system? Between the RRoD, and MS, who will survive?

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    Comment by JanusVX
    09:49 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lets see: MS 1 Hackers/Pirates: 2
    It seems MS is trying to get back at the modders of the XBL community a little too late. And it is too well timed to be called a coincidence. Why wouldnt they have started banning people from their hard drives last year? Surely the fact that 1) Their sales have taken a massive beating due to the PS3 Slim, and 2) christmas is around the corner? Its timing is too well placed to be called a fluke. MS screwed up this time, and this is a very lop sided effort. It's a 25/75 throw up, with MS on the losing side. Lets see shall we? With the plague of the RRoD still devouring consoles in every continent, and now this stunt in NA, which group of 360 owners will be left standing and not caught in the crossfire of MS vs Pirates?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:02 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bah, I got banned,...so what. I'll get a new system black friday cheap from amazon or a used one from gamestop with a extra service contract and use both. Only need live for the 2 games I actually play online any way. Gears, gears 2. I'll DL everything else and buy legit copies of what i wanna play online. After sending the system back to em twice already for repairs , it was gonna break any how. To be honest, im happy the ban wave hit. Now hackers and modder will come up with better solutions and exploits. The same think happened on the original xbox, just to a much lower scale (live ain't have 20 million users then) and it wasnt the end of the world. Modders just got better and bucked the system again. Hell, modder "darkAlex" is notorious for releasing hacked psp FW THE DAY AFTER sony a new FW. MS fired off a huge salvo yes, but this fight is just gettin good........

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:09 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mysterious Voice: "Yet another display of Microsoft's draconian strategies. Planning to destroy 1,000,000 consoles can only mean some legitamite owners will have to fall. Save yourself now! Get a PC."

    What if there's less then that? There's always the chance that they won't need to ban 1,000,000 owners.

    Mysterious Voice: "Just wait. I'll prove you wrong."

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:41 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    that's what you get for supporting a Microsoft console (you dweebs!)

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:55 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honest people : 1
    Pirate hackers : -1

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:48 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honest people: -1 for paying sucker price to publisher.
    Big Corporations: -1 for bad press and generating customer hostility
    Pirate hackers: +100 for already played games that worthed more than the console's price at sucker rate.

    xbox360 arcade = $200
    if you managed to play more than 4 games during the life of a hacked console, you win.

    and I think most pirates already won.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:00 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    @ Char
    The Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act does not apply. The purpose of the Act is to make warranties on consumer products more readily understood and enforceable.
    Remember the terms of service that you agreed to (but probably never read) when you first connected to Xbox live?
    You can thank the Magnuson-Moss Act for that one. If, like most people, you never bothered to read it and didn't realize that consequences of modding your Xbox is actually stated there, then tough luck.
    And yes, it's very disheartening to hear a lot of people suddenly becoming "legal experts", and imply the limited knowledge they know of the law is better and can suddenly replace years of law school by highly paid M$ lawyers.
    And for that matter, I won't be surprised if somebody DOES seek legal action for the banning, and have the case thrown out faster than you can say, "Red Ring of Death".

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:19 12/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And by the way, and if you're referring to the Wikipedia excerpt that states:
    "Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty.This is commonly referred to as the 'tie-in sales' provisions, and is frequently mentioned in the context of third-party computer parts, such as memory and hard drives."

    It won't do any good.

    A careful reading of the actual Act found in the FTC website (and not just the Wikipedia article) gives an example of a permissible provision:
    "Improper or incorrectly performed maintenance or repair voids this warranty."
    Good luck trying to explain to the courts that your console was properly 'repaired/modded'.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:58 14/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    may i know who is the artist of the cover picture, and which series are the characters from? they look familiar, but i can't place them...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:15 14/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why is everybody crying about being banned?. We all knew this was coming and the risks involved, so just do what most people including myself are going to do and buy a console for legit online play and use the banned modded one for offline play. Simples

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:07 14/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Truth behold, the ps3 is the better console for now....

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