Top 10 Things Men Will Never Understand About Women

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Japanese men and women asked about what it is about women they think men will never understand provide a less than controversial list of qualities, many of which may be familiar…

The ranking:

1. The pleasure they find in gossip

2. The amount of time they take shopping

3. The importance they stress in listening to what people are saying

4. The amount of luggage they have

5. Their weakness to cold

6. Their attachment to cute things

7. The way they have discussions which go on without end

8. The number of shoes and bags they have

9. The importance they find in anniversaries

10. The importance they see in makeup

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  • Bronxdragon says:

    That is all trival shit you shouldn’t even care about. What you should be asking is.

    1. Why do you hang around people you hate?
    2. Why do you bitch about people you like?
    3. Why do you complain when I leave the toilet seat up?
    4. Why are you always checking your weight when your a toothpick?
    5. Why the hell do I have to clean out the tub when its not my fuckin hair in there…wait whos hair is this!?
    6. Why the hell are you horny when we can’t have sex?
    7. Why can you read those smut books but I can’t look at porn?
    8. Why do you get to use dildos when you feel a bit of solo time is needed but I can’t wack off whe its my solo time?
    9. Why do you put water in your Oj?
    10. Why does your mother keep looking at me like that and licking her lips?

  • seriously. Have you actually asked a girl about any of these?
    I, for instance, am a girl and don’t have more than 4 pairs of shoes.
    I don’t care about anniversaries.
    I don’t carry a lot of luggage.
    Makeup is not important.
    I don’t spend long times shopping.
    This is way too stereotypical.

  • hi all!
    I read all of the comments here, until this moment.
    And I’m a girl. And BTW these comments were the most interesting things in this week in my life XD

    So after my opinion and lifestyle…:

    1. I think gossip is when you say something bad or unreal of somebody. I hate gossiping, and to prevent it, I always leave the conversation.

    2. Well, I have money problems and from this reason I don’t buy what I wanna buy (yes, when I’m going out shopping I KNOW WHAT I WANT, I never change my mind or anything), until I looked around it’s price everywhere. And that takes time.

    3. Somebody up wrote, that most of the people expect a simple replying “yes, uhu, okay”. I think it’s normal.

    4. I dunno who, but wrote that when you are married the wife has to pack for her husband too. But if you’re not married…
    I personally always think about that I pack only that much that I can carry. And 2 from every clothes cuz when you’re out of the town you don’t know what will happen to you. I remember when I was younger on school trips in the mountains I always fell in the water. So I need an another pair of shoes and pants.
    BUT
    for example my boyfriend takes with him a lot of unnecessary things… I really mean it.

    5. women have to care about it, cuz if she gets a really bad cold it could be that she never gets to gave birth for her child.

    6. omfg. There are so many girls outside in the world. First you have to make a definition what is called cute.

    I call cute a big black spider, but my friend does not. She calls cute her new car.
    😀

    7. there was a really good opinion up. A discussion with an end is no discussion.
    But the chit-chatting and those shitty nothings… I hate them.

    8. Nah, I tell you that I have a ,,leg fetish” I have a lot of shoes and socks 🙂 I like to wear them. But I only have 2 bags 😀

    Most of the women have shoes for their every single dress.

    But if it’s not, then think logically:
    You need 2 for winter: one for occasions and one for everyday/mountain climbing.
    You need 3 for summer: a pair of sandals in the city, a pair of sandals for walking in mountains and some slippers for the beach.
    You need 2 for autumn/spring: one for the rainy days and one for not.
    And you need an indoor and outdoor pair for sports.
    9 huh? 🙂 You are normal. of and one in the house than 10.

    9. Yeah, well I think all of the people just need something to celebrate, something that’s not just in the everyday or a christian holiday.

    10. It was said. Some of the girls need, some of them don’t and the mass-media says everybody needs.

    Thank you.

  • 2) Size varies so much in women’s clothing sometimes. It’s a waste of time and money to go shopping for clothes without trying everything on.

    5) Said by guys who don’t want to get close. Or maybe it’s the complaining that it’s cold all the time or insisting on heat when the guy is sweating bullets… Guilty as charged! But what’s gotta be annoying to the guys are the girls that wear next to nothing and then complain of being cold all the time.

    6) Being called cute by boyfriends and having them say stuff like “I love how cute you are” really makes me gravitate to the cute stuff. Not to the point of making him wear pink or giving him the Hello Kitty collection tour. Just wearing more pink and furry things and staying away from my callgirl voice.

    But it’s relaxing to be surrounded by cute. I’ll tone it down at request, but I’m never giving it up.

    8) I think any guy I’m with will have more bags and shoes than I do.

  • > 1. The pleasure they find in gossip
    …You’ve got me there. Technically I’m a female yet I don’t even get the perverse fascination some women and men have with that crap.

    > 2. The amount of time they take shopping
    Not sure there either, actually :-/

    > 3. The importance they stress in listening to what people are saying
    …If you don’t listen, how will you know what people are trying to say? O_o;; I can understand not giving a fuck about what fucktards are saying, but people who are important to you should be listened to, and they in turn should listen to you. It’s mere mutual respect, nothing more.

    > 4. The amount of luggage they have
    I am guessing it is because many are too hung up on needing to look good all the time without wearing the same thing every day and looking like a poorfag or something… Personally I just go with basic black clothing and add colorful cute small accessories – saves time and effort. I have better things to do with my time than to coordinate five million outfits all the time.

    > 5. Their weakness to cold
    Science to the rescue! Women in general have significantly thinner skin than men. And also in spite of in general having more body fat than men, “white” fat (which humans have) is a pretty shitty isolator, especially compared to “brown” fat (which a lot of animals have, including bears). Thinner skin + more fat is also why most women have cellulite, while as almost no men do.

    > 6. Their attachment to cute things
    Why not liking cute things? I don’t see why this would be bad, unless someone is obsessed with only cute things. I can’t speak for Japanese women, but I in no way exclusively like only cutesy stuff. I love awesome art of any kind, anything from cute to badass, from abstract to photo-real and super-real etc… But then again I personally am an artfag.

    > 7. The way they have discussions which go on without end
    Huh… Is a discussion without end really a discussion? wouldn’t that better be called a series of discussions, or a conversation ranging over many different topics? That said, I have no idea what exactly is meant by this. Empty smalltalk? That sort of stuff is pretty boring.

    > 8. The number of shoes and bags they have
    I’ve never understood the point of this either… Just get a good set of basic shoes (exercise shoes, wellingtons, boots for hiking in the forest and the like or winter, casual lighter shoes, formal wear, party shoes) and accessorize. If you have more than seven sets of shoes you should feel concerned. If you have more than ten (especially if you have more than three of any category) you should seek help.

    > 9. The importance they find in anniversaries
    My husband tends to be better at remembering anniversaries than me. I suspect people think of them as birth-dates, only instead of getting more and more depressing to celebrate each year, their increased age just gets more impressive and important for every year… Sort of like wine I suppose. Good thing I have calendar programs to remember this sort of stuff for me.

    > 10. The importance they see in makeup
    The world keeps telling both women and men “YOU SUCK! YOU NEED TO BE MORE IMPRESSIVE IF YOU DON’T WANT TO BE SHUNNED AND SHAMED! BUY OUR PRODUCTS NOW TO STOP THIS!”
    Beauty is treated as one of the most important traits for a woman to possess, and so I think entirely too many women do not feel brave enough to face the world without trying to get closer to what they perceive they should be more like.

  • >10. The importance they see in makeup

    MOST people look better in (correctly applied) make-up, and a lot of ugly people can be made more attractive with proper application of make-up.

    See: every idol, male and female.

  • gossip.. lets see this under contemporary terms. Of course everyone talks about other peoples business, but i never understood why women have a incredible (almost fetishistic) fascination about talking about the latest little “dirty secret” about some person that they don’t even know or truly care about, if anyone could explain to me why this is so pleasurable I’d be thankful.

    Now, i can understand “poisonous talking” ’bout someone they know, i do find it repulsive and i do think is plainly pathetic because they only do it because of their chronic lack of self-esteem and self respect. but just plain “compulsive” gossip but something that no one really cares… i have no idea.

  • The only ones that drive me crazy are 1 & 7, the rest I’ve learned to deal with.

    And I actually like shopping, esp electronic/computer stores, the rest, you just find a quiet corner or a chair a dose off until they’re finished. ^_^

  • 1. The pleasure they find in gossip

    I’m sorry to say this, but 90% of the men I’ve known in my life love gossiping. Just because you don’t use the word gossip doesn’t mean it’s something different.

    3. The importance they stress in listening to what people are saying

    Maybe if you guys put a fraction of the effort you’d have a girlfriend (and I’m not talking about those crazy talk 24/7 never listens bitches)

    4. The amount of luggage they have

    If it’s a single girl, I understand. If it’s a married couple, it’s because the man doesn’t pack shit and leaves it to the wife, so even if they have the same amount it looks like it’s all hers.

    5. Their weakness to cold

    WTF? why are you complaining? go hug her it’s your chance for some skinship, moron. (and thick clothes make her look fat, go see n.10)

    6. Their attachment to cute things

    Men love cute things too, just because of the social stigma they can’t fawn over shit.

    9. The importance they find in anniversaries

    It’s called being committed to relationships and you know, actually caring about a person (pointless holidays don’t count).

    10. The importance they see in makeup

    Maybe if the sexist part of society didn’t make women feel like shit because they don’t look pretty like x stereotype women wouldn’t spend so time and money on shit to make themselves look like another person.

    • I’m sorry to say this, but 90% of the men I’ve known in my life love gossiping. Just because you don’t use the word gossip doesn’t mean it’s something different.

      …We will say something bad about someone and keep going where you can spend an entire lunch break on drivel, usually something you don’t even know the facts on.

      Maybe if you guys put a fraction of the effort you’d have a girlfriend (and I’m not talking about those crazy talk 24/7 never listens bitches)

      …Maybe if you would shut up for 5 seconds for us to filter out the BS you added in so you could keep talking instead of letting us get a word in edge wise. I have listened to plenty of women who would rather make contradicting statements in the same breath as opposed to stopping to think and make a coherent sentence.

      If it’s a single girl, I understand. If it’s a married couple, it’s because the man doesn’t pack shit and leaves it to the wife, so even if they have the same amount it looks like it’s all hers.

      …I don’t let women dress me, I will let them help pick out clothes because it makes them happy but I won’t just let them do it blindly, they would dress me like a gay guy.

      WTF? why are you complaining? go hug her it’s your chance for some skinship, moron. (and thick clothes make her look fat, go see n.10)

      … obviously you aren’t reading the comments and just ranting instead most of the people here said that.

      Their attachment to cute things

      …again read the comments we already say that. You just take it to an extreme.

      It’s called being committed to relationships and you know, actually caring about a person (pointless holidays don’t count).

      … dates don’t count reasons and actions do. I know many women who can give dates and times of their first dates but couldn’t even tell you if the watched a movie or went to dinner. Quit going overboard on unimportant things and remember what you did. Sure your first date is a neat thing to remember but the first date, first movie date, first kiss, first fuck… let it go.

      Maybe if the sexist part of society didn’t make women feel like shit because they don’t look pretty like x stereotype women wouldn’t spend so time and money on shit to make themselves look like another person.

      …plenty of women go without very successfully it is like a boob job, don’t ever think you are doing it for the guys, you are doing it for yourself because you deluded yourself into thinking you have to be perfect not us.

  • Ok… 1 I can understand. I don’t like it but I know why. It’s actually quite similar to when guys talk shit about other people plus or minus the shit. 2 Shopping I can understand. If you want a certain outfit but have money problems yeah. 3 That’s important especially when doing business etc. It’s useful to make a habit of so you don’t seem stupid. 4 well they want to bring all the luxuries of home… most girls are like that. 5 is a good thing for guys. When they’re cold, you can have them hold on to you. >xD I do that with my gf all the time. 6 you don’t need to understand. They’re girls. girls = cute. What’s there to understand? 7. sometimes they don’t know when to shut up. Same thing with #1. 8 is to girls as games, gadgets and toys are to guys, really simple. 9. That’s always important cuz it shows yhou care. I have a gf so I know. Funny thing is I then to remember better then my girl. 10. this one mostly has to do with insecurities. They feel intimidated by other girls so they have to do something to stand out. That’s my take on this.

  • 1. The pleasure they find in gossip
    >Gossip focuses on men or all of the following items on this list
    2. The amount of time they take shopping
    > Buy clothes to look more attractive to men
    3. The importance they stress in listening to what people are saying
    >Because this is a mystery and not Common Sense
    4. The amount of luggage they have
    >Carry all the shit they buy to look more attractive to men
    5. Their weakness to cold
    >They want men to give them their jackets
    6. Their attachment to cute things
    >They want men to think they are cute and infantile
    7. The way they have discussions which go on without end
    >Because that’s not the basis of modern government
    8. The number of shoes and bags they have
    >See 2 and 4
    9. The importance they find in anniversaries
    >The same people who market the shoes and bags market anniversaries to make money off gullible women
    10. The importance they see in makeup
    >See 9

    Basically in a patriarchal system, a lot of things are subconsciously geared towards women making themselves more attractive to men. But the issue is most of these things are just to make money for whoever makes bags, shoes, make up, and clothes, and have nothing really to do with attractiveness at a basic level because men are built on the same fundamental principle of if there’s a hole, he’s going to put it in. Men are pretty stupid like that. Really, the ones who understand both the value and fallacies of all these so called ‘mysteries’ are the actual keepers.

  • Whats the point in this list or really even most of them. Its more like Top 10 list of 1 uping you.

    Things get said about the female so the females have some retarded list to counter and it just goes from there back to males and females with a more retarded list each time.

  • I’m a guy and I have like 10 different pairs of shoes. I have:
    1 Leather for work
    1 Black Vans for regular use
    1 Adidas if I am going to go out to a bar or something and want to look “cool” like I am going to talk to girls with my friends even though I probably wont
    1 Athletic Shoes I wear to the gym
    1 Athletic Shoes I wear outside like to get muddy on the field playing a sport
    1 White Vans in case I ever need white shoes which I rarely do but I got them on discount for like $10
    1 Slip On’s to wear around the house or to the market if I am lazy
    And two pairs of sandals(do woman count those as shoes or are those separate?)

    Now in my defense, I used to work in the shoe department at a clothing store and I would get good deals and shoes on clearance. Before that, I had 1 pair of regular shoes and 1 dress shoe.

    I do understand why women need maybe up to 20 shoes. A really nice dress needs a pair of shoes that compliments it. However, my sister-in-law had over 100 pairs! Now THAT is just excessive.

    • I seriously doubt athletic shoes and work shoes count as far as the ‘owning many pairs of shoes’ mystery goes.

      I also own two pairs of athletic shoes (outdoors and indoors), work shoes, generic outdoor shoes, hiking boots and good/formal wear shoes.

      What you describe is still very ‘male’ in stereotype. One pair of shoes for one purpose. (Though the Adidas pair to look cool could be a borderline case.) Replace em when too worn to do the job anymore.

      What is generally considered a mystery in relation to woman-shoe-owning is when you want to take them to a party, and they can’t decide which one of their (at least) EIGHT pairs of party-use high-heels they want to wear. As you describe with your sister-in-law.

  • 1. They derive pleasure from the suffering of others
    2. As illustrated by this diagram: http://www.tensionnot.com/images/images/slideshow/FunnyPIC52.jpg
    3. They confuse this with 1., so naturally we don’t care and tune them out.
    4. Men take what they need and only that. Women can’t seem to understand the concept and take everything they have.
    5. Maybe if you spent less money on shoes and more on a good coat, gloves, and a scarf…
    6. Cuz women don’t grow up mentally.
    7. Women have the useless ability in which they can talk so much yet say so little.
    8. News flash, women: men don’t give a damn about what shoes you wear. We have more IMPORTANT things to look at.
    9. How about you focus less on the past and more on making this relationship last?
    10. Makeup is for whores.

      • But some period cramps hurts like you’ve been kicked in the abdomen. I’ve been on both sides of the fence, though. When I was younger I didn’t have any period cramps at all, then when I grew older they hurt more and more. Some women go through their entire life without any period pain, some get them immediately with their first period, and so on.

  • So much I don’t understand because it’s almost like a contradiction. Wasn’t there a list before saying what guys like about their girlfriends? How they like cute things and other things on this list?
    And also how 10 for example, or 8, or just looking good in general, we get called a fatass 3d pig, unless we don’t look perfect…
    Though I’m a girl, and some of it applies to me, some of it doesn’t. 😮 Gossip yes, but that could be just about anything. When anybody, not just females, are talking about somebody else, isn’t that practically gossip…? Everyone does that everyday. 😮 A good majority of this site is gossip.
    But, good list, it’s pretty true, on some cases… I like the picture a lot. =w=

  • These are some pretty laughable generalizations, and its not that these things are “impossible to understand” its that people don’t want to. First thing to notice, these are primarily only issues in very prosperous countries like the US and Japan, not so much in say, any place that isn’t the US, Japan, The UK, France and Italy.
    In order words these are entirely cultural. And yes, they are stupid. In other words, some women are raised to believe that
    gossip, shopping, listening to what people are saying, luggage, shoes and bags, makeup
    are more important then most other things, the rest of the world (and even in US, Japan, The UK, France and Italy. there are many exceptions) It is a conditioning for stupidity no different then religion. Reinforced by society. Congratulations now you all understand women. I guess never isn’t really that long.

  • Well I can understand most of it.

    Pleasure in gossip, makeup, shoes, shopping, importance of listening…

    These are all a product of centuries of living in submission to men, which is ever changing these days – so now men that are less socialized to that kind of role for women can’t really relate to it anymore.

    As for the cold, and I’m not entirely sure about this, but as I recall it’s because they’re slight in frame and have much less muscle mass, which is more dense and generates heat. but this is also largely individual since there are men who would fit the bill for that too, along with women who wouldn’t.

  • gossiping is something both men and women do. what women do specifically is ‘bitching’, that is, saying bad stuff about people(usually other girls) behind their backs. and for me, no. 10 is perfectly understandable, some women look like crap without make-up.

  • 冷え性ってColdnessじゃなくて体温が下がりやすいって意味じゃないか。その英語だと心の冷たさってニュアンスになってるぞ。

    • てか、日本人もこのブログを読んでるだなんてw
      意外というか、とにかく驚いたよね

    • You seem to be right. I checked this when writing but I have never heard of “Raynaud’s phenomenon” and nor have I ever heard about women getting colder more easily… The context seems strange either way?

      Wikipedia reports 5% of men and 8% of women may suffer from this, so why it would even be in list makes absolutely no sense? Perhaps one of those cultural/medical things which seem completely different in Japan vs elsewhere, like phimosis…

      • I have Raynaud’s, it sucks. My hands are colder to the touch and can make the rest of me feel colder until I warm them up. My hands do not do that weir shit in the wiki though that is only in extreme cases.

      • If it’s possible to downrate an Artefact, I think I just accidentally did.
        Sorry Arte. I was just messing around.D:
        Wait, surely it didn’t do anything. It makes absolutely no sense to be able to downrate a mod.

  • NEXT WEEK:
    Top 10 Things Women Will Never Understand About Men

    1. Their coldness

    2. The importance they see in makeup on women

    3. The importance they stress in listening to what people are saying

    4. The way they have discussions which go on without end

    5. Their attachment to cute things

    6. The pleasure they find in gossip

    7. The amount of luggage they have

    8. The number of shoes and bags they have

    9. The importance they find in anniversaries

    10. The amount of time they take shopping

  • Ok.
    My girlfriend:
    1. Hates gossip
    2. Shops, but not *too* much – Though it’s really hard to find something good.
    3. That’s really important..
    4. Never too much. Usually a single bag.
    5. Only sometimes which usually during PMS.
    6. She likes me.. so I don’t mind 🙂
    7. Guys have that too.
    8. 5 pairs of shoes. 3 bags. That’s not much, on any scale.
    9. Hardly. We celebrated our 1.5 years by just being together.
    10. She never puts make-up.

    She’s a bit too concerned about her cosplays and making them perfect… or about her voice when she covers anime songs…
    And well… she does spend quite a lot of time in danbooru, 4chan and such.

  • I wonder how many of these can be used for otakus…

    1. The pleasure they find in gossip abt the otaku universe
    2. The amount of time they take shopping for otaku goods
    3. The importance they stress in listening to what otakus are saying
    4. The amount of otaku merchandise they have purchased at events
    5. Their coldness to non-otakus?
    6. Their attachment to moe things
    7. The way they have otaku related discussions which go on without end
    8. The number of otaku related merchandise they have
    9. The importance they find in anniversaries of character birthdays and other otaku events
    10. The importance they see in cosplay/otaku accessories

    Any comments on this? XD

  • These shouldn’t be a mystery:

    #1. People take pleasure in other people’s misery – it makes them feel better about their own imperfect lives. “At lest my boyfriend isn’t cheating on me like so-and-so’s.”. My girlfriend gains facebook “friends” when she posts a string of bad news, and loses facebook “friends” when she posts a string of happy news.

    #2, #8, #10 – It’s proportional to how much importance a person takes in their appearance. Even a guy who tries to dress well takes his time shopping and owns multiple shoes and watches.

  • #10
    If you find a girl hot, then most likely she has make-up on. If you “see” a girl with make-up on, then she has too much make-up on OR hasn’t put it on properly.

    #8 just irks me. I would think 5-10 shoes and bags would be enough for any social occasion, but noooooooo….you have to fill up the wardrobe and the cupboard and the backup wardrobe as well….

  • I can understand why women take so long to shop. It’s mostly because they usually do not make up their mind on what they want to buy before hand.

    So when they get to the shop, they ended up taking their time deciding on what to buy. Some women even take longer to compare prices (if they are the housewife types) instead of checking beforehand.

    But of course, experienced housewives will know a bargain so well that they can buy all the special priced goods within an hour.

    • You obviously haven’t done much shopping with women.

      Women have a lot more variation in their upper bodies (breast size and breast height) and wear tighter clothes than men. Therefore, a woman has to try on *everything* she is considering buying. Only about 1 out of every 3 or 4 blouses my girlfriend tries on actually fit her in a flattering way, and she has a fairly slim body.

  • I think most of em are some kind of fetish especially 8 and 10. Some of their “strange” action seem to be used to impress the mans, but if the mans say they aren’t like it, they usually piss off. I don’t think it’s all that hard to understandable though. Once it’s come to habit human seem to be a simple minded creature.People think most of their action controlled by their mind, but instinct and habit usually get the upper hand before their mind realize that.

  • lovelongsought says:

    Well 3 is something I can relate to.

    2,4,7,8 and 10 are things that can get on my nerves, especially luggage since the damn things get taken often from the airport “It sucks when it does”.

  • I experienced all of them, I kinda like 5,6 on some of the girls.

    I find 1,2,10, annoying. I prefer them having no makeup or wearing non-obvious makeup.I hate it when it takes them hours to shop in just one single store, probably because I’m impatient.

    • Ah yes, #3. I have spoken with bitchy Japanese girls (yes, in Japan), and they have repeatedly told me that I was not listening to them.

      However, I was in fact listening to them, but I simply did not agree with what they were saying, or I was trying to tell them that they were fucking stupid. But no, the problem was simply that I was “not listening.” AKA not doing everything exactly how they wanted it. Because they were fucking greedy and stupid.

      fucking bitches man, fuck.

      • The problem with Japanese is that in conversations they rely a lot on feedback (verbal and non-verbal) from the listener party as a means of clarifying to the speaker that yes the listener understands and is listening to them. The listener will say “yes”/”un”/”hai” not to mean they agree with the speaker, but simply that they are following the convo.

  • shoranhimura says:

    Looking at the list we can see many things universially nonunderstandble for mem but japanese sure find some things stranger than normal…

    lkike shopping, its not like just woman like shopping and some guys can spend preety much time in eletronic ang game shops for example..

    but some other things are a mistery itself…like the gossip thing…

    the number 5 is what i myself find cute about girls..how they think strange things cute or how they can turn anything cute just by saying it is…