Two twins who downloaded a variety of shotacon materials have been jailed for possessing “virtual child pornography,” with the judge condemning them for “victimising” imaginary children.
The men, both 20 and residents of the Canadian province of Nova Scotia, were reported to police by a sister-in-law after she came accross “distressing” images on their computer.
Police searches soon found a substantial collection of shotacon material on their computers, saying 90% were “cartoon drawings called Japanese Anime.”
The pair, one of whom is said to be an active homosexual, were subsequently charged with possession of child pornography, both for the minority of real images and their manga collection, which under Canadian law is considered “virtual child pornography.”
The state prosecutor insists that victimising fictional children is a very serious offence:
“Every one of these images involves the victimization of children. The victimization wouldn’t happen in the first place if there weren’t people there to look at this material.”
The judge was equally scathing, saying the drawings “victimize” children:
“This is a crime that victimizes young people around the world. It creates a market which then re-victimizes the most vulnerable in society.
The images can only be regarded as disgusting and perverse.”
The judge handed down a three month prison sentence for each of the twins, ordering they be registered as sex offenders, provide DNA samples and refrain from contact with children, presumably including imaginary ones as well. A sex offenders’ treatment programme will attempt to cure them of their deviant lusts.
In a final twist to the case, the court accepted arguments that the pair, having been branded pederasts for the rest of their lives, would likely be in danger if housed amongst the general prison population. As a result they get to serve their sentence only on weekends, and in protective custody.
Although drawn imagery depicting underage sexual activity is constitutionally protected free speech in the USA, and has been upheld as such despite a variety of efforts to ban it, Canada possesses no such checks to the power of legislators, and consequently draconian laws against “virtual child pornography” are freely enforced.
Via ngnews.ca.
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Mybe WE should BAN their MAPLE SYRUP and ANNE MURRAY CDS!
for the love of god that doesn't even make any sense....
So if someone draws a young person that's not even real they'll get in trouble?
one time in elementary i doodled some pos and said it was some classmate naked SHIT IM FUCKED POLICE @ THE DOOR
So I guess if I shot someone in Grand Theft Auto, I should be arrested for killing an imaginary/virtual person.............................
Better fuckin watch out or Canada's gonna come git ya!
We're not all bad... just the people east of Manitoba...
I just wanna know why people think Loli won't be banned. Alcohol was prohibited here and it only took a few Christian house-wives to do it.
Yeah, you can have it now. But that's only 'cause the gov. saw they could get a lot of tax money off it.
But alcohol kills real people shota manga is... obscenely inoffensive.
If I remember correctly, there were several attempts to charge persons with attempted murder/premeditation in regards to violent games. They obviously never went through.
Technically, the same opinion should be held in this regards, but obviously courts aren't doing what they're suppose to.
The 3 months sentence I believe if I'm reading right from other sources, were charged primarily for the real cp found on the computer.
Canadian here.
This is why I keep 3D porn off my computer completely. If I were to ever be arrested for my 2D collection, I'd fight it to the Supreme Court.
Very few people if any have been convicted of -only- possession of "virtual child pornography", so if 'caught' with it, I'd use it as a spring board to try and get it ruled unconstitutional.
The only way a normal person can get a law changed really, set a new precedent in court.
Jesus was a Homo, having 12 suiters...
90% of perist Fuck perched/choir boys,
and the Christine are now taking cridit for 2012
Okatus 0
Church goers 3
So if i shoot an SAS trooper when I'm playing on the side of the Ultranationalists in CoD4, am i liable to be labelled a terrorist?
This whole virtual vs reality thing is getting out of hand.
hmm on that count im wanted for genocied .. haveing killed something in the region of 200milion people...... oh well time to go add more bodys to the count
-Lost
Maybe you'll get a medal if you pwned countless enemies in CoD4... Some commander's gonna walk up your door and give you some shiny!
this is why u had to rape ur sister in law to keep her quiet!!!
yeah. lol what a jerk. SHe's not a sister in law. How could she do that to their family member ? Women sure are evil.
And the police downloaded the collection into an USB flash drive while they were at it.
LOL They must've got all the CP's from every CP collectors. That makes the police have the best and all the CP they can have.
Its things like this that make me sad to be a canadian... there is no correlation between the pictures and people going out and doing the stuff in the pictures.
Same here. It feels bad to be canadian...
As much as I agree with the laws here being crap, they did have real CP.
I'm not entirely sure there is no correlation between the pictures and NOT GOING OUT, though. Penalize the fiction and they'll go for the real thing (fapping: 20 years; raping 3D: 20 years - the choice is yours).
I'm almost proud to be an american....almost...
There goes the neighborhood...
wat
Technically the case can be declared as a mistrial already, since the judge is publicly vocal on his bias against the accuse. So there's no actual fair trail in this situation, furthermore the lawyer for the defendants should have filed charges against the judge in this matter. Obviously they're too stupid to actually notice this.
No where did it say that the Judge was biased. However, the 3 month charge seems to be quite light considering some other offenders.
Keep in mind that real cp was also found. As far as we're concerned, it would most likely because of the cp.
However, that doesn't change the point that you can be jailed for drawn material, which is utterly retarded.
The judge wasn't biased. The comment was made after the sentence was already decided.
canada is full of homophobes and perfect little bubble people and annoying soccer moms from what this article tells me.
oh so if i own porn does that mean im cheating,or a kill a person in gta,fuck canada,and there shitty health care.
Umm.. You do realize even though the comment is made after the sentencing, it's still considered a personal bias, regardless if it was made before or after. The judge chose to be vocal about his personal views, and it displays that he already had this personal belief most likely before the case even came into his court. Which means he won't give a fair chance to any argument made by the defendants. So there's no chance of a fair trial here. Study a bit more about law and you'll understand how it works.
Regardless of bias and logic, the two guys in question have to deal with _the Canadian law system_, with its various flaws.
Just because logic indicates they have grounds for appeal, doesn't mean the Canadian system will permit it.
Show me a law system that isn't flawed...
So, if I draw myself stabbing someone with a sword I will be charged with murder attempt or even murder?
This is clearly a sign of the end of the world...
Nope, but you can be charged with premeditation.
=D
Yes on the attempted murder, and/or premeditation.
Why would they BAN loli, its not hurting anyone. No real girls are involved, its like arresting someone for going on a killing spree in Fallout 3.
Im not canadian, but im still pissed.
So far no one in canada was arrested purely for 2D lolis but I fear the day it happens. If they had real CP they deserve to be butt fucked but virtual stuff is not real so why should the governement care.
If I'm here fapping to 2Dlolis I'm not out there molesting one(that's only an exemple since I would never ever touch a real child). Canada is a good country except for our shitty government, it's always the same shitheads that get elected over and over.
Your health care system blows too. You could die waiting in line to see a doctor.
@ 23-10-2009 18:00
Don't talk if you don't know what your talking about retard, and even if that was the case I'd rather that than die because i couldn't afford the treatment.
if you couldn't afford treatment then you deserve to die. what kind of asshole makes others pay for his own damn heatlh care?
hmmm... what kind of asshole... the one that was forced out of a job and onto the street while those up top lined their pockets with year-end bonus bucks?
You ignorant fuck. If you need to be treated in the US, you will be treated. It's the law. Every person in the US, citizen, resident, tourist, or even illegal, can and does get medical care. The fight in the US is over tort reform and the government being allowed to pick who pays for the care of the sick and injured--- everyone regardless of who can pay or planned for the possiblitity (the government plan), or just those who planned for it.
By law, all are treated in the US. But not all pay, as not all are able or willing (the law makes no distinction between the two). The government's current plan is to make everyone who ever is treated be taxed at that time, and then pay a portion of that tax back to the care provider. It will also add a "health insurance tax" to EVERY SINGLE RESIDENT int the US. That money is publically stated to be going to health care, but it is actually just going into the general treasury fund, where it can be spent on more and larger pork barrel projects, as the AT USAGE TAX will primarily cover the cost of any health service used.
So its crazy taxation under the "illusion" of universal health care. Not one additional human being will be covered that wasn't already covered, as all ALREADY can get treated in the US, but by presenting this illusion that some are not, and that only the government can fix it, the goverment gets to create a very large new tax revenue stream, and increse its own importance and size. Total win for the government over a citizenry that is still mostly independant of its government and prefers to remain that way.
Prolly if I draw a stickman with cocks I'll end up jail too :\
;) If someone decides your stickman depicts an under-aged person.
Ban hockey instead. That'll piss em off.
lol, I don't even watch hockey and I'm canadian. I watch hentai instead... *runs away*
Rape and abuse of virtual people? Man, you are truly fucked.
PETA already tried boycotting our maple syrup at one point, didn't do 'em much good.
PETA boycotts everything and look how far it gets them. The only thing they do successfully is convince dumb chicks to get nude by telling them that they're saving animals.
Peta might be on to something with that. Next time I see a loli I'll tell her "If you don't get naked right now then bad men will kill all the cute kittens in the world."
that sister-in-law deserves death by slow skewering while simultaneously being cooked alive in an oven.
honestly, first being such a stuck-up and intolerant bitch then reporting them knowing full well that people are stupid and pass stupid sentences.
They had ACTUAL child porn, not just shotacon stuff.
While it's unfortunate the stories play up the shota stuff, there was a basis for charges.
hahahha thats my province , never mind the fact that ive seen two shootas molesting each other at the bus station
Maple syrup should be banned because we are harming trees.
Gymnastics should be banned because we are helping people become better masochists and contortionists.
Kids should be jailed for pouring salt on slugs too.
No, I'd love to see Anne Murray nude and covered with maple syrup!
Well I'm all for banning Ann Murray CDs... never liked her music....
B-but.... maple syrup is just too damn tasty! D:
If they ban maple syrup, how am I supposed to enjoy my pancakes? Pancakes don't taste right without maple syrup!
they banned cheese whiz so now they have to come to america and smuggle it across the border.
maybe you'd be doing the world a favor if you were to ban celine dion cd's instead. lol! and yes, i AM a canadian, but one that hates the stupid canadian stereotypes.