Navel: “Foreigners Keep Out, But Buy Our Games!”

Hippos! See what I did there?

MAN THE HARPOONS!

what spoons?

damn feminists.

damn UNICEF

There is no spoon.

my spoon is to big

You.... YOU SPOONY BARD!

YOU SPONGEBOB SICK BASTARD!!!

WHAT THE F**K

Well recieved lol chain observed and approved

damn Anon, fancy you breaking the damn chain

My spoon brings all the milkshakes to the yard...

I can access that just fine ..without a proxy..
I wonder why?

I like rusty spoons.

Who says there aren't foreigners who read Japanese? Did you honestly think before posting?

no the problem here is that fuckign woman's right whore organization of prostitutes.

they have to die first.

Ah, anonymous EN haters. The bread and butter of SanCon comments. And by bread and butter I mean arsenic and cyanide.

Yes, you hate Equality Now. You very possibly hate most feminists. This has been well established. Can you stop shouting it from every rooftop now?

アグネスちゃんきますたよ～♡

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This is a MASTERPIECE!!!

横膾つが位置ね国政あああいいなね？ちょっとまってそか？

人類そのものな・・・滅びろ。

まあ、Artefact氏の記事に限って言えば、ニダ速ならぬDesu速だと思えばさほど違和感はないな。ソースの正当性だけに関して言えば問題ない場合が多いのだが．．．

まあ、どこ行っても嫌われてるブログだし、編集者の一人が無知を曝していてもスルー汁。

wow, maybe we should ban this guy, for, uh, using Japanese?

Maybe before accusing us of shallow or not reading the news, take a good look at yourself.

What's that again? OH YEAH, the people who complained about erogame are from INSIDE Japan. Haven't you not read the news? or is your brain too shallow to understand fact?

したがって、他人の無知を Artefact を責めるか。

334980の名無しさんです。確かに言ってることは大体分かってはいるが（お恥ずかしながら北斗の拳はまだ見たことないけど）、カナダ人とヨーロッパ人をみんなアメリカ人扱いするのは間違ってると思うよ。
第一、ヨーロッパ人にはアメリカ政治の大ファンはあまり多くない。（自分はイギリスの大学でで勉強しているドイツ人だから、知ってるはずだ。）例えばイギリス人の場合は、得にイラク以来、反米情念が増えてるらしいよ。自分自身も「アメリカ政治家の専断横行に絶望した！！」と思ったことはいっぱいあった。しかし、仕方がなかった。アメリカ人じゃあるまいし、アメリカでの権力はゼロだ。だから、私たちヨーロッパ人をアメリカ人と一緒にしないでくれない?お願いしますよ。すごくムカつくんだから。
カナダは…まだ行ったことないけど、カナダ人の友人たちの多数意見によると、政治的は米国より全然マシらしい。まぁ、大英帝国の影響はまだ少しでも残ってるはずだし、無理もないと思う。それから、カナダのナショナルアイデンティティーの大部分は「北アメリカでも、米国よりずっとマシ」だと聞いたこともある。もちろん、その半分以上は冗談だったとしか思えないが、つまり30〜40パーセントは本音だったとは思う。カナダ人は可哀想だよ。外国旅行しなくても、どこにも行かなくても、みんながずっとカナダと米国を比べてるし、比較しない人はカナダ人と米人を一緒にされるし…
ついでに言えば、アメリカ人の中でもイラクでのことは正義だったと宣言する奴は絶対多数じゃあるまい。
(日本語がおかしくなったところはごめんなさい。まだ日本語学の二年生だし、ここは今午前5時弱だ。もうずっと寝てるはずだったけど、サンコンだけは放っとけなかった…）

Same Anon as above. I think you were missing his point, he was complaining about how "typical shallow American Otaku don't get how hard we have it over here, so they bitch about the tiniest little slights." I can sort of get that, but then he went on about how Americans, Canadians and Europeans are all the same, and THAT was what my wall of text just now argued against. I may be a very sleep-deprived European using faulty Japanese syntax, but at least I am no shallow American.

You Blame Artefact for the ignorance of others?

(I am 23-10-2009 11:04)
I am not the original japanese po and I was just commenting on what he (the japanese guy) had said.

Yes, europe & canada are not the same as USA
Yes, the people who complain about eroge and hentai stuff are inside japan.
Yes, not everybody enjoyed the war USA started.

well, which language I should use to reply?
>to the person who used japanese to comment on my comment
ヨーロッパ人は自分の政治があるんですね、しかしアメリカが戦争を起こそうとするときは皆賛成じゃね？それと、アフガニスタンやイラクにいるUN軍はほどんどヨーロッパ人ですよ（アメリカ人除く）皆”平和のために戦争をする”ですね、それではアメリカ人のロジックとは同じじゃね？
”正義”の旗を振いながら、自分の利益しか考えていなくて世界中であっちこっちで戦争をするアメリカとは何の違いがありますか？

>to the one who used english
Well, Americans are shallow, that is for sure.
Why? Go google some statistics about the rate young people read books and newspaper/watch news. The result will be obvious. Another evidence, will be that most Amercians believe what their governments decide or teach them. USSR is evil? yes we believe . China is evil? yes we believe. Communism is evil? yes. Muslims are evil? yes. Homosexuality is normal? yes. Many things have their logic altered in your nation.
Communism is a idealogy which seek to make everyone equal, but you americans treat it as if it is fascism.
Homosexuality is academically proven abnormal, yet your country count it as a normal type of people not like many other countries, treat it as a kind of illness but not put discrimination upon it.

You people have lived in prestige since you were born and you WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND how people live in Asia, Middle East and Africa feels.
Your nation used India as a slogan for your Democracy propaganda against many asian communist states, as well as russia.
But do you know what kind of place is India?
When the japanses people try to reject foreign stuff, like you people, from eroge, they understand the situation.
And the situation is, those internal affairs(about loli stuff and hentai) should be dealt by themselves.
While you just say Japanese are stupid because they ban you from downloading hentai stuff and eroge. However, at the same time people in your countries(America, Canada, europe) will use some NGO and UN to interrupt this and JAPANESE PEOPLE FEEL INSULTED BECAUSE YOU PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS STICKING YOUR FINGERS IN OTHERS PIE!

Do you know why Russia always say they do not encourage countries to interrupt one nation's internal affair? Do you know why China is always saying they will not interrupt other nations' internal affairs?

Because you Euro-American countries have been doing this for centuries and the rest of the world is frustrated and you just never realize it.

^
Even though I don't like the war, but I must say it was the right thing to do, for whatever ulterior motives they had. Saddam committed genocides against his people and was a threat to the neighboring countries. Sure, it doesn't affect any of us who doesn't live in Iraq. But sitting and watching with our hands crossed wasn't right either. And, correct me if I am wrong, but US hasn't gained anything financially from this war. Quite the contrary, we taxpayers are paying to rebuild their countries and our soldiers are paying with their lives. The whole thing started because we had a dumb and misinformed president.

Using the same logic, please go to North Korea and free their people. Or go free Tibet. Or Belarus. Or... should I continue? HINT: The magic word here is "petroleum".

^
^Yeah, I know.... as a country, the US is fucked up. But point out a country in this world that someone else won't point an indicting finger at? I'll bet age-old rivalries and prejudices will just flood to the surface of your minds in some way.

But to state that all of us somehow did a Zerg Overmind thing and voted for that ex-Commander-in-ChimpChief is just wrong-headed.

I wish this whole thing could be laughed at. There's little enough to laugh at, in all honesty.

なら、お望み通り・・・メシウマ状態！！ [http://riceballman.fc2web.com/AA-Illust/Data/Mesiuma.html]

Free tibet........
That is why Americans are the dumbest and most shallow nation in the world.

PEOPLE PERFECTLY BELIEVE IN WHAT THEIR GOVERNMENT SAY AND THINK THAT THEY AGREE ON THEIR GOVERNMENT'S DESCISION ON WAR IS TOTALLY MORAL

You americans will never realize, that the most dangerous threat towards human race is USA.

You might as well explain what the Japanese are telling me quote from Bill Gates

"I brought some. Here I'll let them roam around. There is no reason only poor people should be infected."

Amercians cause war in our world so they should suffer, too.
Are you talking about this?

Well, 911 was intended for this.
However Americans are too dumb to understand the meaning.
Some people, hardly educated, but were so couraged to have months learning how to fly a plane then sacrifice their lives in exchange of some americans and their properties.

HAVE ANY AMERCIANS EVER THOUGHT ABOUT, THAT WHY YOU AMERICANS ARE HATED THAT MUCH?

Well, I know, Americans only think, "those muslims are insane", and that's all. Not a single brain cell is used. Maybe americans just dont have any brain cells....

Just like Raou in Hokuto No Ken...
Believe self to be perfectly right.
Never understand why people hate you.
Never understand why people never give up fighting against you.
Never understand other's pain.
Doomed to fail.

The US government might have not done it for a good cause(and probably so). But overthrowing Saddam is a good thing that came out of it. And how is 911 intended to prevent war? US pretty much went to war with Iraq because of 911. If 911 didn't happen Saddam would still be sitting in his palace and ordering his death squads to clean villages.

A lot of people actually support the war but against stationing our troops there long after the war is over.

@julian0086,
Damn....Hate much?

The only reason I can figure for you to spout such shit in such a way is that:

1: Your from the middle east...

2: You sympathize with muslim radicals...

3: Some US soldier shove his boot up your god forsaken ass and left it there...

4: And it got infected and now you feel butthurt...

GTFO then FOAD and RIHFE...

As an American I hope that you have a nice (boat) day.

These threads are very off topic. Talking about countries starting wars etc., this is all very off topic. Everyone reading this board should be supportive of each other here. We are all in the same boat. We like Japanese anime pop culture, ero games included. Otaku in America are generally not treated well and are not well understood either, it is not limited just to Asia. But this isn't about how others perceive us. This is about being censorship. I don't want ero games to go away in the future due to radical evangelical christian fringe groups and feminists. We need to support each other in this issue since we are all on the same side. We are all fans.

^TRUTH

Now the debate goes from being about Japanese IP bands on Foreigners now its Muslims and 9/11. So are your saying that eroge game industry is being attack by Terrorist its funny I never heard of Terrorist attack a Porn Convention let alone a Eroge Game Company on the Internet.

US exercise imperialism around the world
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Amercian people/organizations use UN/NGO to influence other nations's actions
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Equality now and UN departments use the same technique to yell and force japanese government to ban hentai stuff
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Japanese eroge makers feel being controlled by foreigners and thus block foreign IP
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Stupid western otakus consider JAPANESE PEOPLE TO BE STUPID and demand JAPANESE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE SOME BACKBONES

WTF?
I'm not muslim but I am from somewhere else than North American or Europe, thus I know how many times you Amercians have stuck your hands in other nations' pies.

This is the logic and only because you are shallow that consider these political stuff to be irrelevant to this topic.
I bet none of you have studied social science, or at least put NO effort in studing it. None of you are being academic because you just yell at those who use reason or just because they are anti-american.

and this is the reason Americans are shallow.

If 911 never happened then US will not go for war?
Then why did 911 happen? Have you ever thought about this?

Because the rest of the world hate US so much.

And because you people TOTALLY BELIEVE YOUR TEXTBOOKS AND YOUR GOVERNMENT's PROPAGANDA so that you never question the actions your country have done in the past few decades.

And that is the root of US imperialism and that caused your country to keep its hands in other nations' pies. And this leads to some NGO in your countries using UN power to control japanese government.

Unrelated? Off topic? USE MORE BRAIN POWER PLEASE!!

>Now the debate goes from being about Japanese IP bands on Foreigners now its Muslims and 9/11.
Please read my comment and use some logic to think.
Things are not so simple as YOU AMERCIANS THOUGHT.
And to resolve a serious problem, you need TO DIG INTO THE ROOT.

And the root is, American people are used, are enjoying that they are the most powerful nation on earth so that they can do what ever they want to other nations.
Starting a war, splitting some countries, force the nation to apply more censorship, these are just the result of imperialism.

Do people actually believe that citizens in the US actually think as one? Is it so hard to believe that there are those that never supported the war? I contest the notion that americans believe everything the textbooks and government says,there are many are suspicious of just about everything that both sources say.

Furthermore I disagree with the remark that many americans live in prestige as there are those who are not only poor most of their lives but that there are also those who are homeless.

I do agree with the notion that many americans are being used but disagree with the notion that the entirety of the country should be blamed for the actions of their government as those who disagree with the government are oftentimes powerless to do anything about it.

yes yes yes
Not every american agree with the wars.
Not every american live in prestige.

WHAT I SAID WAS AVERAGE.

When most people support the war, and you are against, AT LEAST DO SOMETHING OR YOUR WILL JUST BE COUNTED AS ONE WHO SUPPORT THE WAR, BECAUSE YOU ARE AMERICAN.

In this complicated world, there is no such time to count those minority who disagree with the mainstream while doing nothing.
Oswald Spengler, the famous philosopher for example cannot be counted as supporting Nazi because he was against it and HE DID SOMETHING.

WHAT DID THOSE WHO DISAGREE WITH WAR DO?
ANYTHING EFFECTIVE?

If anything happened and you always say there is some minority that are innocent, then NOT A FUCKING THING CAN BE DECIDED BECAUSE YOU ARE TAKING IN CONCERN TOO MANY THINGS.

Also, the idea that not americans support war was brought up by you, and how do you think about MOST AMERICANS THINK THAT MUSLIMS ARE ALL TERRORISTS OR CRAZY PEOPLE?
lol
are you americans contradicting your self?
when you are blamed you say not everyone are evil.
when you blame others you say they are all evil.

American minds are are always like this, "I can disagree with you but you can't"
But at the same time saying that you are the most democratic and liberal nation.

you have your democracy in your country but you NEVER GIVE OTHER NATIONS THEIR DEMOCRACY.
This is just TOTALITARIAN DEMOCRACY. DEMO-CRAZY

I say that not all think the same thing because there is a tendency to insult an entire country regardless of the reason as you have done in some cases when you say "American minds are always like this" or "are you americans contradicting yourself?".

I am saying if you want to blame someone,blame the people responsible. Furthermore, if you want to disagree with me go right ahead. Hearing different points of view would be welcome.

Out of curiosity, why so many capitalized letters?

I would like to add though that I feel you're correct about inaction being no better than supporting a negative action. But I ask you,what can be done? What can a person do to fight against something that they are against if they don't know how and/or are powerless to do anything about it at present?

julian0086, you are an idiot.

I don't know what kind of deals are made by the governments under the table, but average Americans have NOTHING to gain from this war. I have friend who is still in Iraq as we speak. We Americans may be obese, hill-billy, and oblivious to other poor countries in the world, but so are most affluent countries in the world like Europe, Japan. Whenever there is some natural disasters happened, we Americans are always the first ones to jump in and give humanitarian aids. You can't say the same about other rich countries who just mind their own business. We Americans are open-minded to other cultures and beliefs, unlike other parts of the world in which being Christian/Muslim/Hindu/homosexual means getting lynched/stoned to death by the mob. We are not afraid to criticize our government and our leaders, some people do that anyways even though it means ruining their political careers. Americans may be cocky at times, but I think there are valid reasons for us being proud Americans. Your prejudice against Americans is without base.

I have no intension to comment on someone who use an insult rather than an academical disagreement as the first line of his/her comment.

so,Exitium
let me ask
If a family raised four children and three have become gangsters, one being some top executives of some company.
What would other families comment on this family?
A successful one? or a bad one?

If some other families have three children become some executives or scientists, and only one gangster.
What would people see this familiy?

Of course there are always two sides of one thing. However, most of the things USA do is bad.

Well, USA are always the first to help other nations?
Haha, HAVE YOU EVER READ NEWS FROM SOME NON-AMERICAN/NON-EUROPEAN SOURCES?

You believed in your govenment's propaganda and you shitty think you are using reasons?
EVERY NATION SAY THAT THEY ARE THE FIRST TO HELP.
AND USA SOMETIMES DO MORE HELP BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE MONEY.
AND IF YOU COMPARE THE AID, TO THE TOTAL WEALTH YOUR COUNTRY HAVE, YOU WILL SEE THAT USA IS NEVER THE MOST HELPFUL NATION IN THE WORLD.

capitalized words are for emphasizing some ideas

julian, are you A) expecting sympathy/empathy from us, or B) are you just venting? o_0

If it's the latter, do us all a favor and shove your rage where the sun doesn't shine. If it's the former, why reiterate the same points over and over, and expect us to understand your situation?

Like I've said before, and will continue to do so, even to the point of sounding like a broken record: No American thinks exactly the same. Plus, do you really think your own Government tells you the unvarnished Biblical Truth? o_0 Governments do what they've always done since the start of civilization: Keep the power and status quo in their own hands, any way they can. Big Government, at it's core, fears those which put it into power. In other words, the vast majority of it's citizens are Government's own worst (perceived) enemy.

Annnnd, I think it's safe to say this thread is horribly derailed now.

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/10/23/navel-foreigners-keep-out-but-buy-our-games/#comment-335286

So...you want us to go to war with North Korea who has nukes and not afraid to use them, with China who has a larger armed force than us, and move our troops close to the Russian territory, when Russian raised hell about us putting a missile defense system in Sweden? Go to war with Russia or China would no doubt produce the worst armed conflict in the history. There are things even a powerful nation like US can't do without dire consequences. Iraq was an exception because nobody likes Iraq, not even Iran, who hated US to the gut.

I thought it was being built in poland? But then again I could be wrong.

>miroku74
Did you read this?

US exercise imperialism around the world
↓
Amercian people/organizations use UN/NGO to influence other nations's actions
↓
Equality now and UN departments use the same technique to yell and force japanese government to ban hentai stuff
↓
Japanese eroge makers feel being controlled by foreigners and thus block foreign IP
↓
Stupid western otakus consider JAPANESE PEOPLE TO BE STUPID and demand JAPANESE GOVERNMENT TO HAVE SOME BACKBONES

You dont need to understand my situation.
What I said was that, your habit- interfering other nations internal affairs, have made japanese eroge makers block foreign IP.

No American thinks exactly the same. Then why are YOU saying this again and again? You are not all the same but the people of your country share some characteristics, which are: always interfere other nation's internal affair, never try to understand why other nations are doing something(by simply thinking they are crazy/stupid).

>anon 24-10-2009 09:58
No body really like war because they want to kill.
It's always the politics, the PROFIT that drives people to kill each other.

And the only nation, that has shown that they are so eager to kill when profit is possible, is USA.
I have NEVER SAID YOUR NATION HAS SOME SORT OF BARBARIAN NATURE.
It's only because your nation shows this greed so much, that makes the rest of the world hate you.

You used Russia, China and many countries as examples. However, THESE COUNTRIES HAVE SUFFERED FROM WAR SO MUCH and their great culture also tell them the TRUTH OF WAR.

You have not realized that USA is the largest threat to world peace. You will have many excuses for the Wars in the past few decades. But the truth is that YOU HAVE BELIEVED IN YOUR GOVERNMENT.

Greed is a purely human vice, anons. It is not exclusive to any one nation on this planet. No nation has come up roses on any account for the reasons you listed for the US. Hell, the Greeks conquered the world in their day! Well... the world as they saw it.

Sure... I'll admit that unregulated greed drove the world's markets into a downward spiral because corporate criminals (and the way they went about their business was criminal, never doubt that) played poker with futures and real estate. I'll even admit that our government has for the past 60 or so years 'interfered' in other parts of the world where they weren't exactly welcomed with open arms. But for our relatively short history, despite the bumps in the road, we've got a decent track record in other areas.

You're forgetting one thing though:

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it
.

Incurable........
"didn't start the war"
"decent record in some areas"
"first to help"

make a trip to some Middle eastern countries or Asian countries.(not those who are ally of USA)
And you will know the truth behind those "decent records" shown on by Americna mass medias.

I believe Navel Is trying to protect its own Buisness from Foreign organizations such as Equality now who wish to do more harm then good.

^^
If you ask countries who are not allies with the US, of course they are not gonna say nice things about US. Go ask Myanmar, Vietnam, Cambodia, and Laos about Chinese's human right issue and see what they would say.

And why do people say the war on Iraq is about greed? The government was misinformed about WMD and the connection between the Iraqi government and Al Qaida. That's how the war got started. If you didn't just hear that from your relative's neighbor's coworker's friend, please cite a source that shows US gaining anything financially from the war. If it was about greed, we would have invaded Saudi Arabia or South Africa. Some people just had to find some country to blame for their shitty lives. Just because your local newspaper says US is the bad guy, you buy that shit up like the holy bible. How about lay off that prejudice and think objectively for a second?

To sum up what this julian0086 guy had to say in one sentence:
US is bad.

The reason? Because they cause him to lose his precious hentai materials(in reality it was people inside Japan pushing the ban).

That makes a lot of sense.

Oh well, you might as well tell it to everyone that US is prevent Arabs from finding Porn on the Internet.But thats not true isn't it unless that source came from some Media outlit such as this one that mock parody news like "The Colbert Report" you might as well this is not the only new source that reports it Haven another source the reports it.

First off, I'm a European. Just wanted to make that clear first. Now then; Julian, you have some good points, but you are also going too far in several aspects. You sound like you have racist tendencies when it comes to white people, especially when coupling Americans, Canadians and Europeans together as one, when they are so different. As a European coming from a country whose whole political, legal, and moral system is completely different from the US, and rather disliking the USA myself, I really don't like being coupled with them. Also, as much as I could criticize the US, you exaggerate ALOT, and it makes you sound either misinformed, or just stupid (I'm not trying to insult you, just saying how people will see you when you write like that), which will only cause people to not take you seriously. Finally, I just have to say, this topic has derailed completely....

Does he look like a bitch?