“New Nintendo Console in 2011 More Like Xbox 360 & PS3”
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Sep 23, 2009 04:59 JST
- Tags: Announcements, Controllers, Nintendo, PS3, Square Enix, Technology, Wii, Xbox 360
Nintendo is said to be planning a new iteration of its dominating Wii console in 2011, though the console may be a direct competitor to the PS3 and Xbox 360 rather than a device aimed at children and casual gamers, and may come with a different kind of controller to the current Wii.
Square Enix president Yoichi Wada revealed what he presumably knows to be Nintendo’s plans in an interview at the Tokyo Games Show, saying the new console would be similar to the PS3 or Xbox 360 and due in 2011, potentially abandoning the Wiimote for what would presumably be a conventional controller.
He also commented that he does not expect great things from Microsoft and Sony’s copycat motion controllers:
“Present game machines already have a lot of functions: they are a network terminal, a Blu-ray or DVD player, and a gaming machine. Compared to these three pillars, the [new motion] controllers are quite limited, so the impact may be small. They are an extension of the gaming function,”
He is however impressed by Microsoft’s Project Natal, a controller system set to dispense with traditional controllers entirely, in favour of gestures and objects.
Nintendo’s recent consoles have proved highly successful in their various markets, but their technology has not been at the cutting edge for some time; presumably this new console will be an attempt to create a fully up-to-date and “HD” Nintendo platform.
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Eh.... Even then I'll pass. I'm not falling into their trap again. Before Wii came out, they made all these promises, and most were not kept.
Nintendo was so POWNED in this "generation" of console gaming...
POWNED being the winner? Its only Nintendo fans who lost out this gen, not the company
Who says so? Almost every household in America haves an XBox 360.
HAHAAH Idiot. Get your facts straight. Nowhere near your "almost every" household has a 360. The 360 is heading on a collision course with my foot. The 360's days are counted. Stupid fanboys.
how was nintendo "powned" when the ds was and "is" the hotest selling system worldwide and the nintendo wii is still selling really well in many area where as ps3 is starting to take off and xbox360 is starting to crashland.(though i don't really car seeing as my xbox360/ps3/wii/ds work fine lol sucks for all those rrod people)
And almost every household in the developed world has a wii :p
It doesn't matter if they own the system, because it costs the company more money to make the system than the profit they make from that sale. It's the games where they make their money. However, since all of Nintendo's systems are easier pirated, who's buying their games? Also, Wii's titles are so shitty now, it's not even funny. Seriously, when they dropped the EU and NA title of Fatal Frame 4, the shit hit the fan for them. I'll admit that there must be some stupid kids out there buying the crappy games they have out, but the Wii is simply a party machine. Of course, I agree that most Americans probably purchased a 360 over anything else, but that also is probably due to the fact that they break so often. Sony still has a whole length to catch up with though.
i didn't realize ~30 mil units SHIPPED (not sold through mind you) equaled almost every household in America. damned American government, can't even get census data right!
"It doesn't matter if they own the system, because it costs the company more money to make the system than the profit they make from that sale." =
actually no it doesn't, which is why Nintendo's been raking in the cash all gen long. if you had done some research before talking you'd know that Nintendo's been making a profit per unit since day one, mostly because unlike Sony and MS they didn't decide to compete in the tech race. as a dev famously said, the wii is "two GCs taped together"
its worth noting too btw that ~30 mil shipped is their worldwide numbers, not even their US alone numbers making any claim that almost every household in America has a 360 pretty darn moronic.
untill a moment ago, the wii sales were almost the same as the 360 and ps3 sales put together. You should all get your facts straight and look it up.
Though the ps3 is starting to sell veru well <.<
stupid tales of vespiria crap
man Wii hasn't even had a good footing yet and they're already abandoning it? thats effing ridiculous, time to SELL my wii then. effing nintendo.
If a chinese were killed every time someone bought a console...there would still be too many chinese.
1.- How is nintendo being pawned??? Last fiscal year they reported a profit of over 20 billion yen while bout sony and ms reported loses of over 10 million yen
2.- Every household in united states has a 360? every household in the world has a Wii, even 2 if they can. The world > united states
3.- That they are abandonning it??
Nes 1985
Snes 1990
N64 1996
GameCube 2001
Nintendo Wii 2006
2011 sounds about right to release the next nintendo platform iteration with hd capabilities given how they have been keeping the 5/6 years life time
Now, 5 years went pass by like the wind, i'm scared, they did really went by flying out, way too fast
Quit feeding the blatantly obvious troll, you morons.
Anonymous 09:11...<.< uhhh, anyway...it's still 2009. I agree that these years went by pretty damn fast, though XD .
Wii is a toy and nothing else. At least XBox can play DVD's and PS3 can play Bluray.
PS3 is the console of otaku & game freaks, X Box is the console of the fratboys & casual gamers; and Wii is a toy for kid's parties.
@ Anon 23-09-2009 09:11,
I had not realised it untill you put all those dates there, but yeah, you are right. (wow... I feel old...) It is about time for a new Nintendo system. I wonder if it will be the "Dolphin" thing that was being talked about a while back... Or was that what ended up being the Wii...?
ps3 will die long before the 360, because microsoft will have released a new console, sony expect ps3 to last for a long time.
It feels like it went by fast because we've all been waiting for games worth buying on the console to come out and all we've only gotten is a small handful. It's not at all like in the SNES days when there was like a hundred games worth buying for the console.
Or like the time of the first "NES" when games were so hard to beat up that you keep playing them for months.
"ps3 will die long before the 360, because
microsoft will have released a new console"
Awesome comment. Made me laugh inside.
@CowExtract:
That was the code name for the gamecube
like Ultra 64 was code name for N64 and Revolution was the code name for the Wii.
I had heard a while ago they were working on a new console so this isn't really a big news. It was supposed to be called Wii HD... which will maybe be it's code name and surely not it's name,
powned = wrong
pwned = right
owned = right
you must choose only one.
The only people who will buy it are people who buy all of them, or people who like the Wii.
That was an interesting comment about project Natal. I thought to myself that Natal seemed very Nintendo-like.
BTW, Way, I've got to give props to Nintendo's strategist's for putting out a shitty product that sells like hot cakes, only to steal newer technology once the other companies made it cheaper.
Every parent with kids will buy it! That is still the primary video game console demographic. That ESA survey that said "The average game player is 35 years old" is misleading because it includes 45 year old women playing web games like Sudoku during their lunch breaks.
There were no hardcore 20-something gamers in the NES era, and yet Nintendo sold 60 million NES systems mostly to families or kids. Sony sold 140 million PS2s, but don't for a moment think that was due to hardcore gamers. 88% of PS2 owners did *NOT* buy Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. What do you think they were playing? Games that outsold Sony's precious "Killzone" on the PS2 include: "Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy", "Crash Bandicoot: The Wrath of Cortex", "The Sims", "The Simpsons Road Rage", and "Scooby-Doo! Night of 100 Frights". Yes, a Scooby-Fucking-Doo outsold Killzone. And now that Sony is focusing exclusively on games like Killzone, they've handed the family and kids demographic right into Nintendo's lap.
Anon 23-09-2009 13:03
Did you know that blueray and HD existed a long time before Microsoft and Sony started thinking about putting it into their consoles? The reason it got cheaper were because computertecnology is developing at an increasing speed.
Today's supercomputer is tomorrow's standard.
The reason the HD and Blueray is available for the average man theese days is simply because there is no way in hell they'd get to sell it if you could get tomorrow's tecnology at the same price.
And furthermore, claiming that Nintendo's products are shitty would only encourage other to state that Microsoft's and/or Sony's products are worse than shit.
A computer has the same tecnology as a Xbox360 or PS3, but I've yet to see one with the tecnology used in the Wii remote.
Not that it is impossible, just pointing out how Nintendo actually made something new, which take much more tecnology, rather than "uppgrading" old tecnology...
Actually Blu-ray is an invention of Sony. So you are not completely correct there.
A lot of these comments is full of fanboy logic and are retarded. Like anon already pointed out, systems usually sell as a loss leader, meaning the console developers lose $$$ with every console sold. Majority of the profits come from games, licensing, etc.
However, Nintendo has been making profits on the Wii since almost day one. This means that even if PS3s and/or 360s sells just as much as the Wii, Nintendo still made more profit in the end. Not only are they making money on the games, licensing fees, and the accessories, they were also making shit ton a money on the Wii consoles.
Like already said before, the only people that were owned were the Wii owners. Nintendo still made lucrative sum of money.
So units sold != profit made. Now stop arguing you stupid fanboy dumbfucks.
And all that console fanboy wars can be resumed in:
If you like to eat nachos & drink beer, maybe you have an Xbox 360 and live in your college dorm.
If you like to eat sushi & drink Pepsi, maybe you have a PS3, you live in yours parents basement and not have/need any friends because you fap all day seeing 2D bitches.
If you have a Wii, it’s simple: you like to eat cock, drink semen and you are an interior designer who lives on Castro Street.
I only wish Nintendo would not have fuck-tarded online. I would be perfectly happy to play with my Wii all day if I could just meet some strangers to help me use it. ;)
I said the same thing when they brought out the Wii Nintendo keeps blowing their chances.
By the time 2011 comes around the PS3 will have a solid library of games and the 360's red ring problem will be.......oh yeah.........scratch that part.....
The only thing that is owned is the people wasting their lives commenting on Sankaku.
Excluding myself, of course.
sweet
Hmmmmmmmm. If i have a ps3 by then then i might get it.
Agreed
In 2 years time, I think you'd own one already. If not, Sony will do something against this new console anyway.
Yeah, like not piss on their 3rd party developers and fans.
LOL who am I kidding, they would never do that.
About damn time!
I was just about getting tired of waving around a stick.
i ask kindly for you to please let go of me...
Lol'd
This makes me happy... I don't know why but the Wii never really appealed to me, it is a good console... but...
...but most Wii games are for little kids plus the Wii fit, which is the principal reason why some people buy it any way.
I got mine be cause I'v always been a big Zelda, and Metroid freak. And then they added those Trauma Center surgery games, which I think are awesome, because I have a fascination with medical stuff.
its the crappy 3rd party shit games that are everywhere these days, that ruin it for me
...Which are on EVERY harware (Hell, I even saw an "my horse and me" or whatever on 360).
But because the wii is labelled as casual, you can ONLY find this in stores, because they want to sell more and who care about the customers. The only Trauma center, for example, I saw was a secondhanded one.
The wii can be quite a good console if you buy games on the internet. It just doesn't look like it in stores.
Not to start a flame war or anything, but what would a Nintendo console do with that kind of power? I mean, Nintendo games (Which is to say 'things that would be released for a Nintendo console', basically its own genre at this point.) tend towards being rather simplistic, and I don't mean that pejoratively. It's just that they aren't all SUPERFLASH AWESOMETASTIC GRAPHICAL EXPLOSION THAT'S LIKE AN ORGASM IN YOUR EYEBALL with 10.2 SUPER QUADRATIC DOLBY DIGITAL VIRTUAL SOUND ENVELOPE and all that. And they don't need it. Simple and fun.
I think Nintendo would sort of screw themselves if they did this. They'd have a powerful system that wouldn't really benefit the types of games they let people develop for it, and at the same time, it'll be extra expensive.
It's great and all that Nintendo strives on innovation and simplicity, and that it allows a broader spectrum in demographic for target consumers (from a pre-schooler to a senior at a retirement home), but you have to realize that technology continues to move forward, with or without Nintendo's casual market.
More and more people are playing games on HD displays, plain and simple. Nintendo needs to accommodate this, and it becomes fairly obvious when their games lag behind other consoles in the graphical department.
You still want the "Nintendo" genre of games? It will still be there. Just like how Disney's classic animated films are now remastered in Blu-Ray, it still keeps its original charm, with all the "ooohs and ahhhhs" of high definition.
It's still at least 1.5years away.. by that time the Wii will look very outdated and if Nintendo aim for power comparable to PS3/Xbox360, by that time the tech would be cheap. I believe a $250 price tag for PS3/Xbox360 tech in 2011 is possible.
And it's not that developers don't want to do better graphics with Wii, it's just that there isn't enough power to begin with. The looks of most Wii games isn't because the lacks of hardware but more of knowing your target audience... that doesn't mean those cartoon-ny games use less power than realistic looking games.
The simplest way to use PS3/Xbox360 power on Wii-type games is upping the graphics to at least 720p (or maybe even 1080p!) with at least 2xAA 8xAF and targeting 60fps... that would be sweet.
Give me a break. In 2011, 360/PS3 level hardware is going to be last gen, so it makes complete sense for Nintendo to release a new console with comparable hardware and at the same cheap price. At the very least, Nintendo has no choice since the Wii is no longer a hot item (yes it has huge market penetration but it's only downhill from here).