Bandai Namco Shamelessly Lied to Xbox Testers
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Sep 21, 2009 21:05 JST
- Tags: Marketing, Namco Bandai, Ports, PS3, Tales of Vesperia, Tales Series, Xbox 360
Bandai Namco has been caught in a rather embarrassingly brazen lie to upset Tales of Vesperia beta testers, adding further to the controversy surrounding Microsoft’s efforts to secure Japanese exclusives for its console.
The Xbox 360 beta version contained a mysterious room in which a girl’s pirate hat could be found in a drawer, “with the barely legible name Pa… written on it.”
When the PS3 version was announced to have pirate loli character Patty Fleur, Xbox 360 testers quickly remembered the room and its incriminating contents.
Confronted some months ago, Namco replied “There is certainly such a scene, but it has no connection whatsoever with Patty.”
Players visiting the room in Perfect Tales of Vesperia were however greeted with this sight:
Yuri: “Hmm… So you were staying at a place like this?”
Though nobody really expects them to come clean about the pile of money they received from Microsoft in order to develop what they secretly planned as a beta version of the full PS3 release, they might at least be expected to exercise more finesse in placating the understandably irate testers…
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So angry that i cant see the faces of those whining 360 Otaku LIVE in front of me. :D
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I see what ya did there
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Like I said already, return the game for a full refund because of fraud.
If everyone does that or sues the shitheads at Bandai Namco will get in serious trouble.
Did they ever say it was going to be a exclusive? All i remember them saying is that it was gonna be on 360 :\
They did. That's why MS could easily sue the shit out of BN in addition to illegitimate salemethods.
Smoke it bitch, exclusivity usually lasts from up to 6 months or a year or so.. PERIOD.
Namco is a THIRD PARTY company and like what happened to Metal Gear Solid 2, a year past after it came out on the PS2 and then showed up on the.. wait for it.. xbox! With a tons worth of EXTRAS!!!!
Come on everybody, belated RAgE Against that company now!!!!!!
You, no name, are a ReTard.
"MS could easily sue the shit out of BN in addition to illegitimate sale methods." =
first of all, what was so illegitimate about their sales methods? packaging more content in a year later version you don't get isn't illegal. if it were than every director's cut would apparently be illegal. You not liking something doesn't make it illegitimate.
second, if losing an exclusive was so easily sue worthy than both MS AND Sony would have a field day making money back from devs.
third, what would MS get from suing the shit out of Namco? MS can't argue harm. they got exactly what they wanted, a bunch of software moved, consoles sold. apparently all within the amounts they expected.
so what would they sue for? also, then what? If the Vesperia saga has shown anything its that japanese devs aren't really expecting much from the 360 and are only dev-ing for it because of MS's "superior support"/"grant". MS starts suing, they can kiss a lot of the japanese devs goodbye as they've just gotten rid of the only reason they're working with MS.
Suing the companies developing for you is totally a good way of getting them to do more work for you in the future, right?
Tales of Vesperia : Kingdom of Beta exclusively for Xbox.
Tales of Vesperia : Golden Sword exclusively for PS3. (New storyline that includes a oirate loli.)
There is no fraud here, Namco Bandai didn't deceive YOU in anyway. They never promised the consumers that there won't ever be another version of the game with more content. So the buyers weren't tricked into buying the 360 version.
I sense a strong fanboy shield presented by you. Strong with the fanboy you are, yes indeed you are.
For me it's still a fraud, the game was released as a brand new Tales game, people payed for a full game and good quality.
They payed the same price of a full game... For a beta, didn't betas supposed to be free? (Or at least very cheap)
It's not actually a beta though. That's a metaphor used to describe the fact that the PS3 version has extra content.
It is in fact a full game. So is the PS3 version. They just happen to differ.
There is absolutely nothing fraudulent going on here, period. You might be able to make an objective claim saying otherwise, but nothing done was illegal.
Nor was it not already done the other way around with other games. It's just how the industry works.
"I sense a strong fanboy shield presented by you. Strong with the fanboy you are, yes indeed you are."
seems like your Jedi sense is a bit off. you're detecting nothing but yourself.
as for fraud, and how was it a fraud then?
-"the game was released as a brand new Tales game" = and thats what you got, a brand new Tales game. was Vesperia released before? i must have missed it.
-"people payed for a full game and good quality" = no, you paid for what they were selling. they never offered more than that, and you never asked for more. on top of which is thats fraud then sue pretty much every game thats released. want to take a guess how much material ever gets cut just to fit time schedules?
-"They payed the same price of a full game... For a beta, didn't betas supposed to be free? (Or at least very cheap)" = usually, but as with all things, they are priced at whatever they choose to price them at. if i want to sell a loaf of bread for $100, i can sell it for $100. there's no fraud there. I just won't get any buyers. if you buy something and end up with buyer's remorse over price, that's not fraud, that just makes you a bad shopper.
lol there was no fraud. They never promised the 360 owners any extra characters. Also, if anyone states "the game isn't complete", that's an objective standpoint. They could easily argue that they plan to "unlock" more as dlc later. Therefore, no refunds. You can, however, trade it in for the PS3 version ^_^
i am getting tired to all these coverages. no more rage left. Just let it go in peace.
Confrmed 360's a BETA!
However that money was only for a "Temporaly" exclusive...
And be happy that now is completea nd play it at ps3...
SOMEONE GET ME MY BELT!!! *snap snap*
Artefact, you sure knows how to ignite these nerds' war of the console. Ingenious entertainment i must say~! Troll moar! you're flaming them good! haha!
FALCON PAWCH!!!!!!!
How about renameing the "Games" section of this site into "PS3 fanboy playground" or something like that.
Every single day I visit there is another of these idiotic "ToV Beta test bla bla" news mainly about a loli character nobody really cares about.
It's been the same with Tales of Symphonia actually!
It was released on the Gamecue first later on the PS2. The PS2 Version got some additional stuff because it came out later and the devs had more time to add it and were probably afraid nobody would buy the exact same game that came out for another console a year earlier.
No will you guys PLEASE get over it already and just enjoy the damn game on whatever console you're playing it?
Artefact keeps posting these articles because they keep getting a large amount of views and comments.
If you wanted him to stop, the first thing you should do is not bother reading this article, or commenting on it.
Otherwise you're just supporting more articles like these.
This topic isn't exactly exclusively controversial on this site. It's been a subject of debate on 2ch, and other Japanese forums. "Anime, manga, and games, observed from Japan".
And why not post more articles revolving around a controversial subject? People eat that shit up.
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Haha owned
But, in all seriousness, Microsoft deserved it with the way they've been paying off developers to secure "exclusive" releases...
You act like timed exclusives are something new.
Not necessarily. I'm just saying that we shouldn't be so critical/judgmental of/ Bamco for "lying" to Xbox owners when Microsoft were the ones who paid Bamco off in the first place. They (Microsoft/Xbox owners) should be glad they got the game at all, let alone a year before PS3 owners got it.
and with that, let the flamewar begin.
What? Those two things have little to do with each other.
Yeah, let's stick it to those damn 360 owners because Microsoft had the highest bid in an auction of a product... those cheap, sneaky bastards!
Let me make this easy for you. You paid a shit ton of money. You got fucked. HOW DO YOU FEEL? (baring slightly aroused)
Loyalties and betrayals aside, I think the real issue is if there was any breach of contract on behalf of Bandai Namco. There might be major legal issues if there was a contract for ToV to be made exclusively for the 360. Then again, because of such a contract, that might be the reason the PS3 gets an upgraded version instead of a simple port (since it's a different version, it might be considered a different game).
But that's just the opinion of the player. All legal matters will come out in time.
I don't understand why people are so negative about Microsoft giving money to Bandai. Would you really have preferred a closer release where instead of getting a "beta" version and a better version, you got two "alpha" versions?
That's not exactly a fair choice, as it basically means choosing between the current situation and what would only be describable as Tales of Pokemon.
no, microsoft thought they were on the winning side, acquiring a timed tales exclusive where they would be 1 year ahead of their competitor, not suspecting bamco to back stab them by releasing an alpha version for their competitor thus crippling and voiding all initial reasons for paying out large sums of money to hasten and perfect the beta version.
so they were initially hoping that ps3 would just get a same release but a year later but instead they got screwed over, no ones really negative about microsoft paying out bamco, we just laugh at how they got owned and played over
You shouldn't laugh at Microsoft, they got EXACTLY what they wanted. If they hadn't, there wouldn't be anger in the first place.
The only losers in this were the Japanese Tales fans.
What Microsoft is doing is illegal since they are trying to bribe developers so they can own the market. Doing that is usually considered illegal and immoral. The only reasons why they haven't been prosecuted for it is because they pay people off and because the games usually do come out for other systems in time.
lol That's a completely ridiculous statement, especially since it's a practice that's followed by all console makers. Sony has done the same in the past as well, so don't blame Microsoft exclusively otherwise you're just sounding like a hypocrite. People really should stop these pathetic devotion towards specific console makers and start focusing on actual games with good gameplay.
All these high graphic consoles have started to spoil everyone nowadays because "gamers" this generation tend to be nothing but graphic hogs now. I used to remember playing games just for the sheer fun of actually playing though the entire process, despite the fact games used to be low graphics but actual gaming content that could last a minimum of 70 hours to play through and it was still entertaining. Nowadays there are nothing but high graphic cinematics with short 10 hours of gameplay, and people immediately declare it as an amazing "hit". People should really stop caring about graphics and start focusing on the actual fun gameplay aspect again.
Umm.. Do you even realize that sony paid for exclusives as well in the past? In fact a lot of companies pay for exclusives just to promote their products in the beginning. To only judge microsoft for their choice in this matter is totally unfair.
So I wonder how Sony secured the exclusiveness of GTA until the 360 got IV as well, to the crying foul of the Sony fanboys... Milk and Cookies, perhaps?
I'm just happy we're getting a PS3 'exclusive' beta over on the 360 enhanced, with Cross x Edge. I'll take Etna over a pirate any day.
True... true.
would you please stop being a stupid PS3 fanboyfaggot? No one cares about those freaky JRPGs. What about Metal Gear heh? Fuck you otaku ps3
What about Metal Gear? If you're talking about that X360 port, you can have it. Raiden was a buttmonkey for a reason...
Artefact posts articles like these to get a rise out of butthurt fanboys like you.
The irony is hilarious. How can some butthurt ps3 fanboy call someone else butthurt when they were the ones who whined so much, that namco was forced to release the game on ps3?
Fanboys are so fucking pathetic. The same people who said Metal Gear Solid 2 was a shitty game because Snake wasn't the only main character. You fags don't know shit about gaming, go fucking stick your dick in your blu-ray drive you piece of shit.
You really think Namco ported this to the PS3 because of PS3 fanboys? That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard.
This had nothing to do with the fans, brand/system loyalty or anything. There is only one factor in all of this: Money. That's it.
Why did Namco release it to the 360 first? Money. They got money from Microsoft that allowed them to fund the development of the game without digging into their own cash supply.
Why did Namco port it to the PS3? Money. The PS3 easily has a greater ownership rate in Japan than the 360 does - it would be stupid not to capitalize on that.
Namco doesn't care about PS3 fanboys, 360 fanboys or even Tales fanboys. The only people they care about are the stockholders.
aww, someone need a booboo
would you please stop being a stupid elitistdouchebag? No one cares about those retarded games you play. What about Gears of War heh? Fuck you douchebag
gears of war II sucks. That game got boring within a day.
True enough, to much muscle for my taste.
too much till you can taste the armpit..
lol tears of bawww
SUPERMEGAULATR OTAKUS FUCK YOUR MOTHERS AND PLAY YOUR JAPANESE FUCK GAMES!!! PS3 SUCKS!!!
nerd rage phail
dude. this whole website is full of japanese culture/pron. what the fuck do you expect. of course most of us like jrpgs, fuken moron.
+ 1 to calling the first guy a moron
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yes you're a freak, get a life
shit got owned