To Love-Ru Trace Trouble: “It’s My Mother, Honestly!”
- Author: Artefact
- Categories: H, Manga, News
- Date: Sep 17, 2009 20:09 JST
- Tags: Artists, Food, Hokkaido, Illustration, Marketing, Moe, Plagiarism, To Love-Ru
Hastily concluded oppai manga To Love-Ru seems to have retained enough popularity to create some entertaining tracing controversy centred around an amusing attempt to cash in on the moe boom by selling moe seaweed using traced To Love-ru imagery…
The company in question was to begin sales of its moe-themed Hokkaido konbu (a type of kelp widely harvested and eaten in Japan). Moefication was to be accomplished by the addition of maids and schoolgirls to the packaging, and a star and gratuitous use of hiragana to the product name (青春☆こんぶ).
However, the makers were soon tipped off that the illustrations they were going to use appeared awfully similar to To Love-Ru published illustrations.
The illustrator, アセリオ / Aserio, was confronted, and denied the charges, providing a photo of his mother in the same pose as the characters and insisting this was the model he used.
The company decided not to believe him (fortunately, we do not see the photographs, but it is possible his mother did not look like the schoolgirls pictured).
After the plagiarism was exposed the company swiftly withdrew the product and got rid of the illustrator responsible; he is currently in hiding after deleting his Pixiv profile, doubtless fearing the wrath of 2ch, though he did update his now closed site with an apology mentioning 2ch as the ones responsible for hunting him down like a dog.
This appears a simple case of plagiarism, something which To Love-Ru is no stranger to, but as the recent furor over Urasora demonstrates, things are not always so cut and dried as with konbu…
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>it was my mother
BEST EXCUSE EVER
Indeed, try using this excuse when you're a teacher who raped and indecently assaulted as many as 27 female students, that would be pretty awesome.
An Australian sportsman claimed that his mother gave him the contraband drugs...
Lame@$$ excuse evar.
"things are not always so cut and dried as with konbu…"
Clever.
I am glad someone finally noticed that.
Ya,some damm fucking NEET otakus with nothing better to do than to sabotage other ppl's rights.
Yeah. The right to plagiarize.
Fuck it,any anime can hav the same pose in the picture as long as the models doesnt resemble each other,i dun consider it plagiarism. The model pose of the seaweed packing and to-love-ru dun even resemble each other,its only the positioning thats almost the same and u call it plagiarism???!! Wtf then like that if any two paintings have the same object positioning by chance but different theme,them u can go around sueing ppl lah??!!!
Typical Chinese complaining about their right to plagiarize.
Pretty sure he's either Malaysian or Singaporean..
yep
Now if someone could put the collective power of 20,000 NEETs to good use.
So I don't get it...what's so "bad" about copyright infringement anyways??
cash and lawsuit and loss of credibility
really i think the only thing "bad" about tracing is the copyright infringement. like that urasora guy, as a collage artist he was excellent...
dont feed the trolls
I don't mean what's so bad about being caught infringing on copyright....
I mean what's so bad about a little bit of plagiarism anyways...
I mean, c'mon, FUCKING DISNEY plagiarizes and DENIES it too!!
Compare....Osamu Tezuka's "Kimba the White Lion" vs. Disney's "Lion King"
Exact same storyline, completely identical main character, with the exception that Kimba is a white colored lion and Disney's Simba is a normal lion...
Of course, if anyone so much as make a work RESEMBLE a disney licensed characters, they'll send their lawyers to rape you...
What I'm saying is...is copyright infringement really that bad of a thing?? fucking Disney does it, and no one is accusing them of it.
ok, what if you spent years and thousands of dollars, and putting yourself through all the stress to make some great work, and some asshole comes along and steals it from you and claims it as your own? That wouldnt be fair would it? Them profiting off all your hard work. Itd make you angry right? Youd feel you deserve compensation right?
As an artist, and a writer myself, copyright infringement is the worst possible thing that can happen to your work. Trust me, if you were an artist or a writer, youd understand.
Douchebags like Disnet happen to be a world renowned company with billions of dollars at their disposal, hence why then can by pass these laws because they can afford the lawyers that will come and rape you up the ass
Just because Disney does it and gets away with it doesn't suddenly make it right.
Infringing copyright disrespects the voice of the original creators, as well as sometimes takes revenue away from them for the sake of someone else's undeserved profit.
there's a difference between accusing and having legal action taken
yes, people did accuse them of it
no, no one sued them over it. why? like someone said, lawyers and enough money to make it go away or drag it out in court forever
it is speculated that the movie was originally supposed to be a remake of kimba but they were ultimately unable to acquire the rights to it and had foolishly begun production before securing the rights after someone along the line had assumed that it would not be an issue and that the rights were guaranteed. they have likely learned their lesson as it is embarrassing no matter how much money they may have earned.
just because disney "got away with it" does not mean it is okay
I HATE TRACORS!!
soooooo
japan will also be like us
full of sue
TO love-ru FTW :)!!!!!!!
i guess this is what you do when you have no life.
no wonder other country copy from japan, they even copy them selfs, lol
I would like to see pics of his mother.
What's sadder is that he traced the anime art instead of the superior manga.
Looks like his mama raised him with low standards.
2ch are fucking thugs.
they live the thug life
2ch sucks!
Cry more, tracer.
Oh wow, I trace manga all the time, as well as real photos, just to get the postures right.
'Course, like the artist mentioned, I make sure to change the face, hair, and clothes.
Dammit, what I'm doing is plagiarism then, and should I get popular, maybe I will incur the wrath of 2ch as well.
I'll be willing to dare them to identify the source of the drawings traced from real life photos though (i.e. the ones offered on free photo sites).
Plagiarism occurs when you misappropriate someone's authored work as your own. Merely tracing a picture doesn't make it plagiarism. Attributing yourself as the original artist of your trace is plagiarism.
Please tell me you're joking.
YOUR A JOKE!
...
MAKE ME LAUGH!
2ch wants YOU to draw original stuff, OR THEY WILL HUNT YOU DOWN LIKE A DOG.
Tracing and photo-referencing are two different things.
Tracing for practice and tracing for works for class, products, projects especially those that will earn you money are also two different things.
Yeah, what's wrong with tracing something to begin with? There's a finite number of postures anyway so it's bound to happen, that chars have the same pose as others. Maybe he should have left a leg or an arm away, making the char disabeld/moe.
Knowing to draw the human body in any position from any perspective takes skill, and gives you almost limitless options with your art. Unless you're going to be a shoujo artist, only knowing how to trace is going to severely limit your art, especially when you're confronted with a position/perspective you can't find a reference of.
Make your own 3D renders. That's why I do. A "virtual" model!
And because it's your own, no one else will ever know ... plus, if you're like me and have been drawing for 10 years, you know exactly where and what to clean up. It's amazing.
I start with a "thumbnail" sketch, then a rough, I pop open Cinema4D and basic humanoid, move it around, hit render and use that to help with errors.
I agree that there are infinite amounts of poses that have already been drawn, but no one draws the same exact line, that's where styles comes in to distinguish the way they draw. Tracing gives you confidence as an artist, but if your not willing to go through the frustration, concept, failure of drawing, then tracing will be your limit as an artist.
Exactly. If you have to trace to get a posture right, you simply can't draw. Anime characters are extremely easy to copy if you tinker a bit with a pencil, but understanding how warped human proportions can give birth to idealized characters is something else.
Nowadays it's not rare to see kids who can't even copy by freehand claim to be artists thanks to tracing software...luckily this doesn't stop their art from being mediocre, regardless of how good they can color/edit the base lineart.
Moe Noodles... Smoke Weed. Seriously, leave Mio and her blue panties alone cuz she is not a slut! Free loli love for all men. Peace.
what
Cool story bro.
Seems like i can draw a conclussion from these kind of articles;
Some artists in Pixiv trace other artworks..
Some "ARTISTS" in Deviantart steal other artworks..
I don't call those pussies artist, being afraid of not being able to draw something decent or good, resorting to tracing/stealing art/hoping to be praised. These are the people who don't put their heart into their drawings.
That's possibly the MOEsome-est avatar you ever used, Obsidian...
I find it amusing that you take notice of who I am, or the changes that I do.
Heh.
These particular comparisons are way too weak to fire the guy over. Then again Japan is probably overflowing with artists that they can play along with these witch hunts.
why is it always TO-Love-Ru? I really enjoy his work, but tracing and calling it your own is really pathetic.