Darwin Film “Too Much” for Americans
- Categories: International, News
- Date: Sep 14, 2009 10:34 JST
- Tags: 2ch, Censorship, Christianity, Movies, Religion, Science, Superstition, USA
A recent movie celebrating the 200th anniversary of Charles Darwin’s birth has ignited a storm of criticism in the superstitiously minded US, with creationists denouncing the movie, reversing the balance of opinion seen in other developed countries.
So much so that the producer has opted not to even bother releasing it in the USA, saying Americans are “not ready” for such a work.
Though American attitudes to evolution are nothing new, the all but universally scathing reaction of Japanese online is interesting to behold, particularly considering the Japan is hardly free from superstition itself.
2ch holds forth on the subject unsparingly:
“Americans are just too stupid.”
“There are no gods. Gods and demons are just the products of the fevered imaginations of men.”
“That the US, so full of idiots, can maintain a scientific and technological lead is the real mystery here…”
“America is really a cult nation.”
“They don’t really believe this, do they?”
“Those intelligent design guys. They got teaching evolution banned in some schools y’know.”
“Nice joke!”
“God didn’t make man, man made god.”
“It’s the 21st century and these idiot Christians still believe these fairytales. How long will they keep believing this rubbish…”
“Truly the land of the free.”
“What is the US, some kind of huge kindergarten?”
“I use to believe in evolution but lately I feel it might be plausible that aliens made man.”
“So who made the aliens?”
“>Only 39% believe in evolution.
What kind of idiots are they… God made it all – ridiculous.”
“But some Japanese do believe in an afterlife.”
“Americans love massacres so it’s fitting they are all Christians.”
“There are idiots in Japan who believe in spirits too, so we’re really in no position to laugh at these fools.”
“And these idiots make a fuss over a few whales…”
“This is just the protestant right making a fuss. Most Americans don’t even know what evolution is.”
“This is a matter of faith. God is necessary to maintain American society. Pure reason can’t maintain a human society. Religion is necessary to reassure people in the face of all the crime and death.”
“Saying ‘Are there really people in the US who actually believe God made man?’ to an American might be a bit dangerous…”
“What can we say about America…”
“You should put up one for blood type fortune telling too…”
The same sort of thing goes on over the thousands upon thousands of posts spawned in response to this news.
Via Itai News.
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This is why America is the greatest nation on earth. We're the only one that believes such things while the heathens believe in godless reasoning.
So true man so true, i personally believe in God and science, how cause god is a scientists. Honestly i would like to see and idiot make the universe.
However whether u believe in God or don't u need to accept the fact that just the idea of god has acted as a great support for those in times of trial, just look at religious numbers during ww1 and ww2.
i hope god is not a scentist because to a scentist perfection is despair and if god is perfection the god is despair and if god is despair then we are all screwed
also i believe god is an alchemist
For those who ARE serious LOL you guys realize that according to the chart and your reasoning, Turkey would technically be the greatest nation in the world LOL.
Failsauce.
Does Artefact read Japanese? Theres no English on 2chan.
hmmm...sounds plausible "God is despair". Oh and yes we are all screwed.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.
All hail Epicurus, bringer of undeniable proof that there is no God.
I think the general truth is that God is flawed. I hate when people quote Epicurus, this little quotation is the same as some kid asking "If God exists why do bad things happen?" The only way to prevent evil is to control every action of every human, taking away your free will. Besides, humans are too stupid and flawed to handle any godly intervention anyway. We fail and God was the first to notice so he said "Screw it, we'll just wait for the apocalypse and pick up whoever's praying at the time."
"wait" for apocalypse?
If he truly is God then he would start the apocalypse ( if any ) on whim.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.
All hail Epicurus, bringer of undeniable proof that there is no God."
As logical as that arguement is, it is no proof. There is NO proof that can be brought against God, because he is omnipotent. Omnipotentency is one of the most illogical things out there, it's beyond logical comprehension. God can make a boulder so big that not even he could lift it, and he could lift it.
Using logic on such an illogical institution is like trying to make water wetter, it's impossible and stupid.
That's why Christianity was designed the way it was, it's impossible to *really* refute it.
No, no, no. The world was made by the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Infidels, Oyashiro-sama is the only true. GENUFLECT!
We can only hope the Segata Sanshiro, Brue Lee and Chuck Norris unite forces to vanquish the 4 knights.
We should call Jack Bauer to interrogate God about his goals and reasons.
He'd get God to talk all right.
The great thing is that ALL YOU HEATHENS WILL BURN IN HELL. There you can talk evolution with Darwin, Judas, Muhammed and the rest of the worlds godless scum.
NICE TRY, you christian-fag.
And FYI, there's no such thing as hell.
That's why Christianity was designed the way it was, it's impossible to *really* refute it.
christianity the perfect religion
and i am a christian just not a die hard christian besides if god had prevented evil and every one is good and on the same level isnt that communism
I'm sure every other religion out there will say that you are also an EVIL BLASPHEMING GODLESS SCUM too Narcissist.
I personally believe that God created a world which has an answer to all of man's ills. And then made it a world of hardship. And then throw men into it, to see if they have the brains to go digging around for solutions instead of blaming him or blaming the devil or some crap.
The world is a Purgatory and life is a trial!
Ugh, Religion sickens me. People who believe in religion sicken me. Religion is just a way to control all you feeble minded people with fear. It's ridiculous to think that some people still think that America is a christian nation. It's no wonder the whole world thinks Americans are stupid.
@Narcissist
You realize that Judas is a hero right? Without Judas, Jesus never would have been crucified and no one's sins would be forgiven. When Christians demonize Judas, it shows their ignorance. The story of Judas also shows how if God exists then there is no free will, since he was destined to betray Christ. It's all bullshit.
People who believe with complete, self-indulgent conviction that God does not exist are absolute tools.
Same goes with people who blindly believe that God exists.
You cannot really know, ya dumb fucks. Get that in your dim heads.
Apocalypse can't come too soon... this world's screwed over and we all know it.
God is dead, didn't Nietzsche told you?
fuck Nietzsche
no fuck you
And yet I can argu back by saying that without religons, there would be no jewish people, and hitler would never have gone on his jewish killing spree.
Therefore saving many more lives than any religion has ever managed by just existing.
FK YOU, YOU JEW GO BACK TO MILKING COWS
What is all this?!?! I want more Loli news. -_-'''
This is why we can't have nice things...
you do realize that Jews are an ethnic group, right? Religion didn't really have anything to do with it. Either that or he just realty thought he'd look stupid in a yamica so he decided to wipe them out.
Also... God let it happen.
Religion has killed millions of people because it gives a reason for people to kill people. It is the cause of many of the wars that have happened. Religion has also been setting back our cultural and technological advancement. If the catholic church never controlled Europe during the middle ages then WW1 and WW2 wouldn't have happened and the problems in the middle east wouldn't have happened. Other then that a very large amount of people have been killed for no reason due to religious persecution.
Jews are not an ethnic group.
"Honestly i would like to see and idiot make the universe."
I would like to see an ethical being make the world we live in and the fucking people who inhabit it.
Dat'll be an EVILution...
The idea of god also acted as a great support in the largest crimes in world history, mass murdering, prosecution, and discrimination.
+1
yah, and in all of those cases, the people doing these acts where acting based on a horribly twisted view of the bible.
they truly believed what they were doing were the works of god. how would you know that the view of the bible you believe in at the moment is not the false one?
Mother Theresa also believed what she was doing was God's work too. It goes both ways.
You do realize the first poster was being sarcastic, don't you?
The tetrapharmakos is a flawed proof, as is any result of Socratic inquiry with regards to God. In any case, the Tetrapharmakos does not deny God and EPICURUS IS A DUMB PISSA SHIT.
"EPICURUS IS A DUMB PISSA SHIT."
Very thoughtful argument there, good sir. And you're one of those Christians then, I gather? Why, you by far exceed anything I expected! :D
Religion has nothing to do with a nation. A nation is purely political.
Also, America is not the greatest nation on earth. You're just the most important economically (and soon you won't). It seems Japanese are right about how retarded you are.
Religion is two things.
First and foremost it's a political tool used by the strong to govern the weak-minded.
Secondly it's a tool used by the weak-minded to explain (i.e. come up with excuses) why certain things are as they are.
Damn right, I can't add anything.
Hey I'm not retarded...but everyone around me is^^
Seriously, The USofA sucks balls. Texas is the Greatest Nation
Rick Perry is obnoxious enough, without his face on all the currency.
actually texas gave us george w, so i propose you cede from the US so we can go to war with you and nuke you.
A large enough radioactive wasteland WOULD settle the illegal immigration question...
Too bad they'll just go through California, Arizona, and New Mexico (which is what they are doing in addition to Texas at the moment)
> Anonymous
"actually texas gave us george w, so i propose you cede from the US so we can go to war with you and nuke you."
.........a non-George W US nuking anything seems highly unlikely, LOL.
Actually, George was from Maine.
Yes, but no voter in Maine was sufficiently retarded to either nominate 'W' for any state office, or vote him into it if such idiocy occurred. That took Texas and it voters.
Responding to the first post because no one will notice all the way at the bottom.
This should help a bit: http://www.livescience.com/health/060810_evo_rank.html
It isn't a question of whether Japan, US, or any nation believes in spirits or a religion, but rather if they reject evolution. You can have a two different countries where 100% of the population believe in god, but the one that isn't considered outdated, in denial, and being stupid is the one that also has a population that believes in evolution and accepts both.
EXACTLY! I'm not very religious, but I believe in G-d. Evolution is just another of His miracles.
Sounds nice! Of course you have a proof for that? No?
Erm... Maybe its time you should start worshiping "Mushrooms".
Or maybe most do not know the new "religion" called science.
Your statement is no different from your terrorist counterparts. Fortunately, there is still hope in America thanks to those who know where to draw the line between religion and reality.
Forgot to add the fitting image:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/forums/topic.php?id=2768&page=16&replies=308&bb_attachments=95052&bbat=24960
Keep in mind that science is put on a pedestal when it really shouldnt be. Science can only test things that are a part of nature. Also the subjects of science must be testable and repeatable. If these three conditions are not met then it cannot be confirmed by science.
The acceptance of Macro Evolution is due to historic and philosphical decisions NOT Scientific. Dont get me wrong science is extremely useful its just not the only way to go at things(and it can't).
Darwin discovered Micro evolution which is mutations of already existing DNA strands between two generations of a species. Also mutations only destroy or modify the DNA never adding to it.
So lets say that DNA can be added somehow. No matter how you get down to it DNA only changes when transferred to the next generation. So I ask you this how can chemicals reproduce? And how can you get enough complicated sugars to form the right sequences for DNA?
So in recap the evolution theory is a philosophical theory which has been chosen as a reason for the beginning of life through the course of history. So why is God thrown out the window? There are many reasons which will remain unlisted because you all know why or claim not to know.
All that is asked is to search reasonably with an open mind.
Also all this Hate and Bicker'n is the reason why most people just refuse to look for answers. Theres anough H8 here to form our own Spirit Ball of Spite and destruction!
Take it EASY people.
I would ask you to define Macro-Evolution. Macro-evolution is just what you call micro-evolution over long periods of time. You are also mistaken in the belief that the theory of evolution explains the origin of life. It only explains speciation. You are referring to abiogenesis. Also you don't need to recreate evolution to prove it. You can see the evidence and tie it together. You are also mistaken in the belief that mutations cannot add to a dna strand. If I recall correctly there are three types of mutations replacements, deletions, and additions. There are also such things as self replicating polymers. You should look up abiogenesis seriously. God cannot be an answer because saying god did it is like saying you don't know. Evolution is based on proof and is used to make vaccinations every year for the flu. You should have listened when you were in elementary school.
Proof of Macro evolution has yet to be found and your your idea of micro evolution over time is only deductive not inductive.
God is a reasonable answer for the creation of our Universe. Can you give me a reason why not?
Again Evolution is a philosophical off shoot of micro evolution. Yes vaccinations are very useful I thank God for giving us the ability to deal with diseases. You can listen at anytime why not start now?
Reasonable?!?
In the first place the idea of Creating is unacceptable... What is create? is it use different materials, applying certain rules to make something?
NO! of course not...can you create a house?
No, you build houses
Can you create a table?
No! you manufacture tables
The fact is that creation is an invented concept you can't create anything.
With that clear:
If god is perfect, why are its creations imperfect?
Have you ever asked yourself about the reason for "creation"?
Assuming that an entity had a conscience before anything existed. If god is perfect and its perfectly alone, it does not need nor desires help for anything, its perfectly calm and happy. And there is nothing that can diminish its state, and nothing that can increase its happiness and power.
Why would this being want to "create something?
The answer is logic; God by definition cant desire or persue anything.
Therefore, god's creation is a fallacy.
That made me laugh...
America is not even a country, dumbass.
The USA is a place full of ignorant cowboys, who really think that there is a god.