China Driving Forward

Useless invention is useless??

idea is ok, but the reality make it not ok :(

Not useless..

People govern people, it's their fault.

There's a fucking billion something people in China. Amazingly, most of them are not in government. It is the Chinese's fault when a billion people don't overthrow their "unwanted government".

Yes, it surely was not the Chinese peoples fault that they openly supported Mao and communism in their bid to overthrow the evil capitalist pigdogs.

@Anonymous 17:30:

Worker A: "Hey, Worker B. -- do you openly support Mao and the glorious revolution to transform our society into a Communist showcase which will shine light upon the world forever?"

Worker B: (Slowly looks around, see political correctness officer glaring at him and fingering his sidearm.) "Why, yes. Yes, I do."

More seriously: The Chinese dynasties and successive governments of China have been - excepting for a few arrogant fools - and continue to, be afraid of the mass of the Chinese people.

Their tools of oppression (wow, I'm starting to sound like a right revolutionary here, eh?) are ignorance and illiteracy, division and separation.

The Chinese governments don't want the masses communicating freely, exchanging ideas, debating things, and (worst of all) coming to a concensus which might result in massive revolution ("Hey, ya know what? They've been lying to us and screwing us over. Fuck that! Let's get 'em, guys! HRRRRAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!")

So. The masses in each little region may be educated in their regional language, and in math, and some other things, but they are not taught how to read, write, and speak a language common across all of China

They are discouraged from speaking "dis-approved" things, from reading "dis-approved" things. Censorship is invoked, ostensably to "protect" the populace from "dangerous ideas".

Logic and critical thinking are not taught in primary schools (that's true here in the U.S. as well. Hmmm... I wonder... could MY governments be doing something like the Chinese governments are doing? Nahhh. This is America! That could never happen here! If you look at the curricu--oh, hey, the game's on! It's the Steelers!).

The Romans knew the trick, and they used it. Bread and circuses.

giant dick means giant hole for a giant seat that won't work

"Why are you always discriminating Chinese people?"

Cause they hate Japan so much that I choose to hate them......

I also don't particularly like Korea either

Someone there is disgusting. You don't like chinese people, not for any logical reason, but for your subjectivism, OK, it's your choice, you can disgust all of us, but we have 13 hundred million ones to disgust you, let's say, who will win.

win wooooooo
you think this is 3 year old kid quarreling?
who ask you people use all their talents in imitating products? who ask your smart people go add plastic into milks, or making imitating eggs, or make shouyu from people's hair?
you made the world to do so with a reason.

I'm sure making a pissing-reservoir in your seat has nothing to do with the government...

Nothing to do with me either...

your country sucks no wonder you left it

oh and here's your logical reason
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPfQEqQfRE

Japan is in long-term decline while China is having a rapid increase in its economy.In fifty years I think it can be said that China will surpass some 1st world countries.

yeah USA is number one.
USA the land of the free, brave and democratic.
The land of milk and honey.

Japan will be back and shit on those sino asses.
Japan kicked them during WW II.
Japan has a superior culture and even better than the west.
Japan got everything from great electronics, computers, consoles, anime and everything you like.
Japan will be back with a vengeance.
Asia belongs to japan.

and pocky belongs to japan

as the anon who made those three comments I must say USA also sucks
just slightly less

the anon who speaks about the china's rapid gdp increase doesn;t know anything about the present news.

foreign companies are starting to leave china since they wouldn;t be able to make much profit anymore there. yeah, right china has a rapid increase in its economic growth but inflation is also another factor that will hinder Chinese progress, recently Chinese economic growth decreased drastically yet the inflation increase is continuing to rise. economic experts predict that by 2010 Chinese economic growth will begin to slump down again unless there's some stupid company who wants to make business with China after the "all your source codes are belong to us" news and the drastically rising wages of the Chinese and the abominable Chinese propaganda.

read some economic news,magazines before you talk about anything related to it, fellow anon.

We are all economic professors.
We can foretell the future.

anon sees all and anon knows all

Get a name, please.

What logical reason, write it down, OK? you know they blocked youtube.

Japan? A country that have been fucking by USA?

"Cause they hate Japan so much that I choose to hate them......"

Lol, retard with no factual knowledge

"who ask you people use all their talents in imitating products? who ask your smart people go add plastic into milks, or making imitating eggs, or make shouyu from people's hair?
you made the world to do so with a reason."
they do so for a reason to, would you make fake products to sell and live if you had nothing to eat and were to die the next day? People strive to live, some do it using unscrupulous methods, some don't have much of a choice.

@ Anon 21:00

I thought it was more common sense.. and a basic understanding of supply and demand.. and since I was bored here’s a simple explanation..

Any civilization that rapidly grows will have trouble staying efficient and controlling the negative side effects of growth..

it's like running a marathon at full pelt.. you might be fine for a while but lactic acid will inevitably build up, and you will need to stop and rest regularly to refresh yourself otherwise you will inevitably collapse.. if you train beforehand and build up your stamina you might last a little longer, but it isn't limitless..

sadly China the giant resource sucking manufacturing plant that she is.. is currently going full speed.. and you can already see the negative effects of it..

this isn't helped.. by the fact that the Chinese economy is heavily centered on exports, hence basic supply and demand tells us that it has and will continue to be affected by the lack of money in the west.. the demand for their goods has dropped.. so now the Chinese economy is also forced to take care of tens of millions of unemployed citizens with less resources..

now China is running in an area located at a high altitude, its getting harder to breath, she is still running full pelt, but again inevitably it's getting harder and harder by the second.. and sadly she also had a little trip up, and hurt her feet.. and it seems that the pain is slowly growing as she continues to run..

and now that the west is looking elsewhere to manufacture their goods.. and their foreign exchange reserves are being depleted by the second.. I can only see trouble on the horizon for China.. I wonder if she will be able to make it to the end of the race, if she doesn't take a long rest and recharge soon.. I pity China.. T _ T.. Being forced to go through such horrific things because of who controls her..

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However you could argue that there is proof that the Chinese government have changed their stance, and are now trying to reform their system, while also creating new economic sectors.. so they won't rely only on exports..

nevertheless to the earlier Anon.. China will almost certainly be a major economic power in 50 years.. after all 50 years is a long time.. but then again you could say so will the Koreans, the Brazilians, the Russians(?), etc.. you could also say that civilization will have collapsed by then due to peak oil, super volcanic eruption etc.. ah well.. the world is going to explode on 2012 anyway.. :O..

Wow so much fags who criticize other governments while unable to keep anything sane on theirs. I luled at people govern people trying to say that everyone is at cause. Be it Amerifags or Eurofags.
Oh yeah, Chinese despise Japanese, I wonder why... Can't be that Japanese attacked them multiple times.

Well, it's trollkakucomplex after all.

Grats on slaughtering the English language in one amazing display of failure Anon.

@diskonline

Anon transcends god you sold your soul the moment you registered

So many ethnically challenged people here in sankaku, and the oh so confused... You do know that the japanese people hate white people too? along with koreans and chinese? actually, they hate anything that is not japanese, so any ass kissing you do won't really grant you any favors you stupid confused crackers.

I ain't a cracker I'm anonymous I transcend race and bring desire for world piece

If Japan is so great and original, why have they ripped nearly all aspects of their society and culture from China and the West?

Kanji? Kimonos? Western Industry? Anime??? Early manga artists based their works off of...that's right....American comics.

The truth is all countries and cultures copy off one another. Some more than others that is...

But when it comes down to it, some countries have contributed more to human progress than others. I'm not saying Japan isn't innovative; they sure are I mean who doesn't need a toilet paper dispenser hat? But Japan isn't at the top of the list. Top 3 countries that really changed the world through invention are: China (paper, gunpowder, compass, etc.), UK (1st industrial revolution), and the US (modern industry). That's right all you Sino haters, China did more to change the world than Japan.

All the Japanophiles that dislike America: well now if it wasn't for America's involvement and rebuilding efforts Japan would be dismal and probably look a lot like Kazakhstan. Post-WWII Japan would have become under the Soviet sphere of influence and all its industry and commodity aside from the essentials sent back to USSR HQ. That means: Boohoo no anime.

@MelancholyMomo: You have the general idea but there is still much growth left in China. Many areas of China are vastly behind. Expect to still see double digit or high single digit percentile growths in GDP due to Gershenkron effect.

As for outsourcing? China, India, and Latin America (maybe) are the last and best places for this. Forget about Africa, outsourcing requires stable governments and a high level of local human capital. True China has trouble with copyright laws, but that's only a big deal for software developers and media corporations (that violate American monopoly and trust laws so I could give a shit about them making nothing in China).

But yes, all you Japanese lovers...Japan doesn't love you back. They don't give a shit about you. But keep buying their anime anyways...they love you at least for that. =D

How does a simple article revealing interesting information about some poor/relatively poor Chinese coming up with some actually cool shit relate anything to the government, japanese/korean relativity, economic growth/recession?

This article, while can be seen as negative toward Chinese, can also be seen as some poor innovative people, doing some cool shit with basically trash (except the seat toilet in car...thats just a bad idea.).

Also, China is a decent nation (atleast for the lightly wealthy and the huge growing middle class of some 300 million people.) Like it or not, China is a massive producer of low level-mid level products for all of the world. Obviously, with a huge population of 1.3 Billion or more, you're gonna have fuckups and retards and genepool dirtying sluts etc. etc. But with such a population, its bound to happen. Thinking about it from another side, where are smart Chinese students flooding to? Dozens of Harvard like schools across China and abroad to US and international schools such as Columbia, Yale etc. etc. So say what you like, but China is on the UP.

As to WHY, many countries hate JAPAN, its because for a long time, JAPAN fucked with all its neighbors, trying to become something like Germany. But for MANY/A LOT of younger citizens of Korea, China, Taiwan, Asian country etc., they get along just fine with Japanese counterparts. Thats because they dont have personal experience/hatred for the acts of Japan. If people bothered to understand/learn the history of Asia, you would understand.

Though, I doubt anyone will read this, it was worth taking the time writing since too many people here are too ignorant about reality in Asia. Japan doesnt hate Japanese loving foreigners. But they are racist, just as almost all people, especially asians are.

The Anonymous has spoken.

To be honest that was actually what I meant when I said..

'However you could argue that there is proof that the Chinese government have changed their stance, and are now trying to reform their system, while also creating new economic sectors.. so they won't rely only on exports..' ^^..

I have always believed that the Chinese boom will last well into the next decade maybe longer depending on how they invest, due to urbanization of rural areas, and the growth of new industries.. and the returns that the Chinese economy will get after a few years from all their investment in foreign markets, during the depression..

After that China will have far to many contenders.. but who knows..

I don't want to end up writing an essay so I shall end it at that..

China BETTAR STEAL THINGS LIE ABOUT THEN SAY STOLEN OFF THEM. THEN CAUSE HATE RIOTS FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPAN 60 YEARS AGO. YAR CHINA BETTAR!!!

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some Japanese and Chinese hate each other
it's like culture for some people

The reason this site has such a hard anti-Chinese and anti-Korean stance is because Arterfact is a weeaboo who desperately desperately wants to be Japanese. He tries as hard as he can to imitate the Japanese, but of course the easiest thing to do, is to hate people. This is a subject that most of you people on this site are very familiar with since each and every last one of you is a misanthropic hate filled bastard with nothing at all to live for. You all hate people as much as possible because thats all you are good at.

Anyway, I'm getting off topic here. Artefact hates the Chinese because a lot of Japanese peopl- Well, not PEOPLE persay, but instead 2channers, hate China, and Korea. He identifies this as an easy way to act Japanese, and thus he does it, hating on China and Korea when Japan is equally shitty. it makes him feel morally superior when in reality he is a poor lost soul with nothing to live for. Honestly, if he dies, do you think anyone would mis him IRL? I'm sure you will notice if he stops updating the site. But you'll all jsut go to other sites and not pay him any heed. maybe, there'll be a blurb in some newspaper someday, weeks later. "Welsh man found dead in apartment". The coroner has concluded "death my auto erotic asphyxiation". "he is believed to have no next of kin, and we have been unable to find anyone who knows him."

Lolz my stupid joke started this

Idealy via a tube that goes directly up your rectum. That way it doesn't interfere with talking on TS...

Homer Simpson had one already....

http://www.biggybank.com/images/toiletchair.jpg

I don't care if it can hold the Hoover Dam, I'll still empty it out, or at least run a drainage line to the main plumbing stack. Pee tends to smell really bad when it's not flushed.