Xbox Users Petition over Vesperia Beta: “It Isn’t Fair!”

^Indeed...

yeah, cause we all know the 360 move resulted in a huge expansion of the Tales franchise overseas right?

Heh, yeah, because if there's one thing Americans love, it's RPGs that don't have the words "Final Fantasy" in the title.

You all realized that this is coming from the group of people who are willing to buy RROD with a 54% failing rate and host the company that is willing to replace it numerous times without fixing the problem?

You'd think that they'd demand a working set of machines before crying over buying a system that doesn't fail more than 50% of the time...

second note, I'm american, and I laugh. You might not want to worry about the QQing people when they run out of money. The american is the same person that supports a car company that was defeated by a japanese one. Perhaps they'd stop QQing when they realize it may only be PS3?

Well..... If PS3 didn't have sucha great anti-privacy system...... I'd go with it as well.... and right now its just collecting dust. RROD + 54% failing rate but $3 games vs 10% failing rate and $60 a game.... which would u choice?

Comes back to tales... I'm getting it on PS3 lolol

>>paying for games burned on cheap DVD's and downloaded from the internet

doesn't the failed "Xbox exclusive" makes the contract invalid? Dunno how it is over there, But I'd try to get my money back. If all those betatester would attempt to do that, I bet there would suddenly appear some DLC and Patches ;)

Yea get your money back after you already spent a year into the game. Already makes your argument invalid. All you can do is complain and being an exclusive only covers the first year or so before it gets transferred to another system. Case in point the GTA:CW for the DS and a few other from all 3 companies getting multi platformed.

i do agree whit you

You seem to forget that both sides bitch about this shit everytime it happens to them. Makes me glad I'm a neutral and love both systems since I don't make my self seem like a jack ass.

Because soooo many XBOX exclusives (official exclusives) have gotten sucked over to the PS3... Right?

Seriously, Sony fucked up from the beginning, yes their system has a better failure rate, but that didn't help it sell more in the US did it?

I own both, my PS3 collects dust, I guess my loyalty to them and hopes of a larger Japanese origin game market (like the PS2 - My last Gen favorite) keeps me holding onto it for future release hopes.

The few exclusives that are released on the PS3 are good, but in no way did Sony come out of the gate with the better bred horse, now as we go through the 10th or so race, Sony's horse is starting to show some pep.

Things will balance out in the long run, specially as console prices continue to sink in the upcoming years, but Sony really is stuck until the next generation to really sock it to MS and get their crown back in all it's glory.

THIS

anyway, most game developers find it EASY to makes games for the 360, making the ps3 versions sucky glitchy port OR not putting it on the ps3 at all. ( i'm looking at YOU VALVE D:< )

sigh... makes me think that ps3 owners are more tolerable than the 360 owners

Of course they are. PS3 are mostly mature, while the 360 is owned by kids and faggots.

PS3 owners

PC gaming is a master race

So u cant pay for a PS3 to get the complete game... So whether Namco comes out wif a PS3 shouldnt concern u either way cause u cant play it anyway... Why get angry when others get to play wat u dun?

I could get angry at Namco for releasing for the Xbox first cause I expected jrpgs to be on a freaking japanese console so I bought a PS3 and now that jrpgs ARNT on the PS3 and I dun have spare cash to buy an xbox... So I wait a yr and get exposed to spoilers and wat not... 1 freaking yr wif nothing to play on my damn PS3 while u guys had ToV and MORE so I really dun see y they are complaining NOW...

Those gloated while they had the exclusives really have no right watsoever to complain right now... ...

PS3 Version of Final Fantasy XIII got compromised due to it porting to Xbox360 and devs trying to make the games on both platform similar.
Fuck Xbox360.

what a mature comment

rolls eyes in disgust

you're right; they should just be happy with what they had and ignore the long delay PS3 users had to bear with.

Not really the point of the Anon above you.

Oh, and I wouldn't use that argument...
Pain of waiting delay: limited.
Pain of not getting the extras: infinite.

well many xbox users bashed the PS3 and its games for quite some time also over Tales of Vesperia etc. so this whole treat us equally and fair is pretty much laughable aslo they got a year earlier and they couldn't really expect it stays an exclusive seeing how this generation plays out till now with exclusive going multiplat from PC to consoles from consoles to PC and from consoles to consoles

This isn't about whether or not Vesperia should have been an Xbox exclusive, this is about the company releasing a clearly unfinished product on a platform. Faggotry between the different platform fandumbs aside, this is bullshit on the company. A game should not be released before it is done.

Companies doing this now days should at least offer the extras as free downloads on Xbox live or PSN. We have the technology to update games via the internet, we should use it!

To the Anon who said "ignore the long delay PS3 users had to bear with": Think how we Europeans feel. We had to wait nearly a year to get the Xbox version ...

Honestly, this should be released as DLC. I'm a real fan of the Tales series and I bought the special edition of Tales of Vesperia, but to be screwed over like this! That's just cruel. To make me buy the same game again for the price of a new game when I have an incomplete one that was the same price is utter bullshit. Which is why I probably won't be getting the PS3 version and I'll just wait for the next game. At least I know how it ends eh?

I do second some of the pointers being thrown here. Especially, when it concerns the game being released uncompleted.

Being working in that part of the industry before, things like this do happen mainly due to incentives and deadlines. The main idea is to make the gamers think that what was being sold to them is complete and the "best" while money goes into their (Bandai and MS) wallets.

"Metal Masquerade" Technologies are not readily available (or is unreliable).

I think the "clearly unfinished product" statement is just pure bullshit. I have the 360 version myself and I must say the game definitely seemed finished when I played it. Not only was it a completed product but to me, it was also a very good one. I was seriously happy with what I had and I don't regret paying the full price for it. I also won't feel bad about buying it again for the ps3. Its almost an insult to a good game to say it was clearly unfinished. Had nobody ever heard of a ps3 release being made with extra stuff, nobody would say that. The game is a complete product in its 360 version, and I view the ps3 product as being the complete version with some extras. Not an incomplete product finally being completed.

You see, the thing about this way of thinking dictates exactly the future of the game products coming from companies who spew bullshit, and decide to bitchslap their fandoms; fan's of the series and genre enjoy it in the system they buy it for; sure, buying the same game, again, only for a different system would be many arguments, but the facts of life are this: A marketing decision made by a company is to first release a completed game.

Second: They then take the feedback of the players, improve it, and then release it as an expansion, or otherwise, only in this case, a completely different system.

Thirdly: Due to the above statement, many PS3 fanboys are all 'Horray horray.' Personally, I don't give a flying fuck about bullshited Console Wars, because they're pointless. Sure, they're all a business. Whoopdefucking do. A product is not to be fought over in such strife; a product is meant to be enjoyed by the consumer, and if the consumer is one who enjoys the Xbox, so be it. PS3, so be it. It's their choice. But onward to my point; due to this, the Xbox 360 Petition should be taken with a grain of salt, as well, because of some obvious biasness. However, there is merit to asking for DLC; by issuing this statement, they have effectively slapped everyone who ever played the 360, urging them to buy the PS3 and play it instead, even though they already own, and operate a 360, to shell out 300 extra dollars, to buy a new console for those who do not have the money, or do not own the PS3, and buy a 60$ game to top it all off.

Call it shameless business strategy, but is it working? It's working to solidify them as a company that should rethink some of their moral judgments; not to say I favor a console over another, either. They all have merits, flaws; but this is just placing the 360 owners who have the 360 vs. to buy a new console, a game they already own ant a new price, effectively rendering the 360 version a 'beta.' Which is utter bullshit.

Fourthly: There is no just cause in doing this kind of practice. 'This isn't fair' is quite right; sure life isn't fair, but I'll tell you this much. Even though it isn't 'fair', doing morally subjective judgments and then telling the 360 owners that 'It has improvements. Buy a new console. Buy a new game. Buy buy buy buy!!!!1!1!1111!!!1!!!!!11!' because they don't give a rat's ass about the 360 enough to simply update it with Downloadable Content to give all these improvements to the public. Some don't have enough money to buy a PS3 and a new game; so why not just give them the DLC option and let everyone be happy? Okay, so them without saying anything was fine, actually; it makes things easier, less anger. Well, this statement..

..goes to show how ruthless these people are in 'business', and how unloyal to their fanbase they are; by saying this, they are saying to those fan's who only own an Xbox 360, 'Buy PS3. Buy new game. BUYBUYBUY. Give money to us, yesyes. We fuck you over, yes. we love you long time, yes. Only if you buy new console, new game. Everytime! Yes, yes.' basically.

Sigh. Rant, over.

For anyone refusing to read all of that? Here's the basic rundown: Release DLC. Give 360 owners a reason to buy this DLC. By saying this, you have unfairly propograted the PS3, and told to buy the PS3, and a new game, all at almost-400 dollars in total, in which a brutal campaign just to get more money has ensued. Give us the improvements in DLC, for a price; 15 dollars seems reasonable enough. I don't care about the exclusive deal, I don't care about anything specific, but this just gives fans of the series a reason to stop caring, if you're going to release it for both platforms, but give one way too many improvements, and the other left in the dust.

Just give us DLC, and all will be well. That's all we ask for. /end rant.

This idiot right here wins fanboy of the year! lol

+1

Yo fanboy, he meant not everyone can afford 2 consoles. Stop being stupid and read.

Lol this idiot doesn't know shit. The 2nd disc is the Halo 3 map expansions >.>
The ODST GAME is ONE DISC. Get your fanboy hand out of sony's asshole you idiot dipshit.
And you know that thing about Metal Gear? Well news flash: It was never a sony franchise.
Have you ever seen the original metal gear games? Didn't look like a PS1 to me.
Not to mention the GAMECUBE, and XBOX got the expanded editions. Snake is in fucking brawl. Don't tell me metal gear is a sony franchise you bitch.

If you haven't noticed. There's way more ps3 fanboy rage in the comments than there is xbox fanboys. Which is fucking sad considering this article is extremely biased to the point of no credibility.

By your logic, Tales series (not xbox owned) doesn't have to listen to all 360 QQer's and make games however they like for whoever. After all it isn't a 360 franchise.

PS3 fanboy rage? All I read is more along the lines of laughing at you, 360 fans.

Truth is, both sides are fucking unbearable. The retards on the 360 side bragging over their warranty for their unreliable system and their Halos and the shit-for-brains on the PS3 side bragging about our (I'm a PS3 user) oh-so-mighty Bluray...

Give me a break. Why doesn't everyone shut the fuck up, take their heads out of their asses and for ONCE, enjoy their fucking games!? That's all they are!! GAMES!!

Really, cause you know, working part time while paying tuition, car payments, rent, and food is totally easy when you're not living with your fucking mom kid.

I pay for tuition, car installments, food, housing loans, utility bills, phone bills, internet bills, wife, kids and parents of both sides AND PS3 and last but not least, the government. I'm not rich, I'm just spendthrift.