Policemen Force Woman to Urinate: “We Didn’t Look”

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A woman is accusing male police officers, who held her down and forced her to urinate for them, of a criminal human rights violation.

The woman, in her twenties, was taken into custody after causing a ruckus at her Osaka home. Police then obtained a warrant, and ordered the woman to urinate for them, with three male officers holding her down.

The woman launched a case against the police, alleging their procedure was an illegal violation of her human rights, and saying she “felt terror equivalent to that of rape.”

In their defence, they point out that one woman officer was watching as she was being restrained, and that “we turned away and that was enough.”

Analysis of her urine would demonstrate she was using stimulants at the time of her domestic rampage, with blood and urine samples being sufficient grounds for prosecution under Japan’s absurdly draconian drug laws.

Her counsel asserts that this evidence was obtained illegally, and so cannot form the basis of a prosecution.

Via ZakZak.


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    Comment by Anonymous
    03:24 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    at least they didn't hit her...because, that's wrong.....

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    Comment by Anonymous
    03:48 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "alleging their procedure was an illegal violation of her human rights,"

    as opposed to a legal violation of her human rights??

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    Comment by Artefact

    Violating someone's "human rights" is not necessarily illegal...

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:27 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Draconian drug laws? To reduce drug abuse and substance use I believe this is the way it should be in every country. Drugs are a plague that degrade society, medical or recreational.
    Our immune systems are actually breaking down because they don't have to actually do anything with how much medication we take..

    It is disgusting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude smoke some weed and chill

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    Comment by Lichtsyn
    06:17 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    FCK Dutch oversmoked mdtherfckers!!!!!!
    FCK GUYS AND SMOKE EVERYTHINK THAT YA WANT BUTY DO NOT GO FOR OTHER COUNTRIES CRYIN THAT THEY DO NOT ALLOW THIS
    WAKARIMASHTA??

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:38 07/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    FCK Dutch are so coolsmoked mdtherfckers!!!!!!
    FCK GIRLS AND BLOW EVERYTHINK THAT YA WANT BUTY
    DO NOT GO FOR OTHER COUNTRIES BTCH THAT THEY
    DO NOT GET SHT
    Lichtsyn weeaboo desudesu

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    Comment by GodOfSpeed
    16:56 07/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Should have just raped her instead, geez

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:16 06/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    FUCK THE PIGS

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    Comment by tyciol
    03:57 11/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    If they were legally allowed to do it to a man then okay but courtesy would say that having a female officer present would be a wise choice.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:39 07/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    tyciol is showing sexism

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:43 10/05/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the hell is THAT supposed to mean? If to a man "then okay"... are you a moron or what? If legally allowed to put a man in this predicament then legally allowed to put a woman in it too and no whining. Point is this SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. AT ALL....

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:14 26/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    We should have just wiped out the whole chain of islands.... Your country is a sick sad excuse for human beings. Raping a whole city? Leave it to Japs!!! Sniffing dirty school girl panties??? Japs again!!! Ritually disembowling oneself over a "B" grade???? Actually not a bad idea!!! Nasty excuse for a human being??? Jap again!!

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    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    13:47 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hawt, cant wait until the doujin is translated

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:58 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    A piss test is a piss test. man the fuck up. even if you are a woman.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:21 06/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This woman is stupid. I had to undergo a few peepee drug tests so far, but I never made such a fuss over it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:04 06/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yea, bitching around with the policeman is a bad idea anyway.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:22 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So remember kids, the next time you're arrested play the victim card at any opportunity. Who cares if you're on a drug induced rampage, just claim you're the victim and you'll be fine.

    I hate this trend of criminals being treated like victims. Here in the UK if you get your car vandalised or house broken into the police don't want to know but if you're the perpetrator of the crime you'll be treated as if society has let you down and it's everyone else's fault that you've become a criminal. When criminals are treated as the victims and the victims are treated as criminals something is very wrong.

    If this woman was drugged up and causes problems for other people she deserves what happens to her. She might think again before causing another ruckus that requires the police to be called.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:35 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ya, but that would only work on women...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:12 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    when I first read the title I red "Pokemon force woman to urinate" :D

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    Comment by female
    00:41 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hahaha... anime/manga influences!

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    Comment by female
    00:37 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is just stupid... They could have gotten a blood sample; would have been much more accurate than a urine test. There just wasn't a need to force the woman to pee, while restraining her.

    * I will not delve into the drug issue or if she is guilty or whatever. I just think the way the police handled it was god damn stupid.

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    Comment by Marine-RX179
    00:58 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yea? And I am sure that woman would just 'willingly' let the police take her blood. The only reason she was forced to pee was probably because she refused to cooperate and provide a urine sample, cause she knows she's screw if the police get holds of it.

    The police should really press one more "withholding evidence" charge on her lol

    With that said, I do agree on the point that it was handled a poorly on the police end as well...they should had sent in "manly/strong/macho" female officers (if there's such a thing) instead of male officers instead, but that probably still wouldn't stop the stupid bitch from accusing the police of violating her human rights.

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    Comment by Tiedupinknots
    02:29 10/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why not just pistol whip her till she's unconcious, then use a catheter to collect a sample....

    THen maybe she would think twice about drugs...

    Deffinately need more police brutality, much more..

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    Comment by female
    03:11 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think you missed the point entirely. She, being a difficult, perhaps drugged out of her mind person, was difficult to pinned down and get her to go through the procedures, and that we can all see. BUT, properly restraining her with whatever contraptions and getting her blood sample is not quite the same as getting her to pee in the presence of two man. If you can't see the difference, then we just have very different way of looking at things.

    * again I am talking about protocol, and not about how hated females are or whatever kind of person the subject was. But even if the suspect is guilty, the way they handled the issue is still unsavoury. A petty thief might have stolen, but that doesn't give the public the rights to stone him to death does it?

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    Comment by Myballz
    01:23 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They could of charge her for abstrution of Justic for refusing to take a Pee test I guess they had to do it the tough way.

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    Comment by Simca
    23:58 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    that was so terrifying
    if simca was in such a situation
    simca wouldn't be able to pee X.x

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:48 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    third person talk, I like.

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    Comment by BeeWhyOhBee
    23:19 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if cops hold me like that, i'd shit bricks D:

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:48 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    why would they want your brickz?

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:06 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    semen sample from previous anal encounters

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    Comment by b0122
    00:46 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    shitting white concrete?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:18 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fuck the policeman they are all shits !

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    Comment by Lowtyper
    00:04 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They maybe thought:
    "Hitting girls is wrong, rape either.. But we can make her urinate 4 us, that should be fine" xD

    srsly, what's up with those jap guys anyways?
    Urinate? Come on! There are so many better ways, like putting her into a costume and letting her dancing hare hare yukai for them.. :3

    Comment by Busy
    00:09 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It was because of a drug test, you should better reading news completely.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:32 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    look morons, all of u are morons, they could of gave her a cup n made the female officer follow her into the public. NOT HELD DOWN AND ASKED TO PEE RIGHT THERE AND THEN.

    obviously YOU SHOULD READ IT COMPLETELY, and use your brain.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:33 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    meant to say "into the restroom"

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    Comment by Lowtyper
    00:39 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of course it was..!
    The other one groped his girls because of a breast cancer test, wasn't he..? ;)

    Also, the costume thing could also been a drug test - if she do it, she's on drugs.. .. Or if she don't do it - depends on how the policemen are try to force her to do it.. xD

    Comment by Busy
    00:36 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She tried actually to flee from the test, according to another newssite. So that was the only thing to be sure to get her pee.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:30 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Though in this case it seems like the woman, about to be prosecuted for the use of illegal stimulants and going on a 'domestic rampage', is just desperately trying to find some sort of stupid reason to save her own sorry arse.

    It's like when kids try to stir up shit to cause large problems for everyone, just for the sake of covering up their own small mistakes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:34 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    how about 3 cops hold you down on the sidewalk and tell you to pee, there are lots of ways to get a urine sample than this, how dumb can you be?

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:39 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just because the brass approves of something need not mean that something is lawful though.

    I point to the whole CIA and Abu Ghraib torture debates for proof of that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:21 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You realise that is regarding an Intelligence Agency(and not civil law enforcement) of a different country?

    Here we are talking about civil law enforcement working directly under the law. If the act of gathering evidence in order to enforce this law, is against the same law, then there is no point for law enforcement.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:27 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anyway, all in all, this is just an incident whereby a busted junkie arrested for a drug induced rampage tries to play the 'I am the victim!!' card as a 'get out of jail free' card.

    It's basically just plain old bullshit. She knows it, her lawyer knows it, the police knows it, and the judge (should) know it.

    She won't get away, it's that simple.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:38 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    But that's in part what the lawsuit is about, whether or not the force they utilized was lawful or not, and if not, then the resulting evidence could be inadmissible, depending exactly on how their legal system deals with material like that.

    Some systems allow for illegally obtained information to be used in a proceeding.

    Example: a burglar breaks in somewhere and discovers a narcotics lab somewhere. He later gets arrested for breaking and entering elsewhere. He could then utilize his knowledge of the whereabouts of the narc lab to get a plea deal. And police could perform a raid upon the location etc etc.

    His testimony would also be allowed in such a system.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:47 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    *policemen and (police)woman

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:46 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    With the higher ups having granted the policemen and woman incharge to perform this act of forced-collection, it has shown that this act is well within the routine protocol of the Japanese police force, meaning it is lawful in the eyes of Japanese law.

    Had the police officers performed this act without the proper warrant nor a female officer at the scene to act as the witness that no unlawful acts were performed, they may have had a case to fight for.

    But with all proof against her, and even her urine has proved that she was on stimulants at that time, this is but a desperate final struggle by the defense for a gone case.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:51 12/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We Americans hereby secede from the civilized world because the civilized nations are class riddled mouth foaming fascist pigdogs!

    Join us for independence!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:32 06/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whether the American government did bad things 40 years ago has no bearing on the guilt of this person. You've read an article that has been convienently translated as so it's missing crucial facts that make the woman look guilty as hell and on the basis of that you claim some sort of conspiracy? I'm sorry but there is no grassy knoll in this case. It is what it seems to be.....a desperate attempt by a drug user to point guilt away from herself.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:51 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can appreciate your idealistic views on this, do wish that more folks thought and acted this way.

    Unfortunately, in the world that we live in, just because law enforcement is doing something, doesn't mean it's legal, even when they're ordered to do so by their brass.

    And this is something you come across even in the "civilized" nations, like Japan, like the US, like in Europe etc.

    There have been plenty of cases over the years, where the police gathered evidence, but done that in a way that made it inadmissible in a court case. The whole concept of someone getting off on a technicality hinges on law enforcement making mistakes during their actions.

    And then there are the cases like the one dealing with the murder of Edward "Teddy" Deegan in 1965, where the FBI allowed for 4 "innocent" men to be convicted for the murder, even though they knew who'd actually been involved (one of those being one of their own informants).

    And then there was COINTELPRO to name another example.

    And yes, I know, these are all US examples, but that's just because I'm more familiar with US history, than with Japanese history. Doesn't change the fact that stuff like this happens everywhere.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:46 05/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Before you start acting smart and calling others dumb, you should do well to read the article properly and think of all likely scenarios which may have happened at the scene.

    Firstly, there is no mention of the act being performed "on the sidewalk" or in any public places.

    In fact, in the original Japanese article, it is stated that she has been taken into custody, after which the police obtaining a warrant for the forced collection of the urine sample from her. So this is just routine order, and nothing out of line.

    To put the point in, her urine tested positive for stimulants.

    There is also a high possibility that the woman was refusing to cooperate and provide any sort of bodily fluid sample, ignoring the warrant and generally causing problems for the officers who are just performing their duties. When the suspect refuses to cooperate with officers of the law, they can legally use authorised force to ensure their duty is performed.





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