Full Metal Alchemist Ratings Collapse

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Mustachio anime Full Metal Alchemist’s remake has attracted much unwelcome attention with the release of TV ratings which show a collapse in ratings, especially compared to the much loved but totally divergent original:

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The original maintained an average of 6% throughout its 50 episodes. The remake on the other hand manages an average of a mere 3.3%, and falling fast, less than half way through.

There are rumours of the show being moved to a more favourable timeslot, not that there is any real indication that this would rescue it…


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    Comment by Anonymous
    18:31 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Aww, and here I thought the new season was gonna be good. Humanity fails again, thanks for getting my hopes up...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:36 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the problem is, it isn't really a new season (as it is a remake anyway) since most of the story arc were identical (feels like watching endless eight in FMA version). Thus most people who already watch the first anime will feel bored (me for example)....

    moreover, I personally believe the old seiyuu for Mustang is better than this one....but that's my personal taste though...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:49 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    just wait till it diverges just like endless eight

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:20 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And i was hoping for a better story development on this one... *sigh*

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    Comment by Ken
    03:56 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    same, they just repeat the whole story... make more money out of 1 idea = sucks.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:35 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The new season is a shit!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:21 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is a remake but will follow the manga i think
    SO it will not be the same as the 1st season

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    Comment by lemon5969
    15:30 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah totally not same as season1
    ur can watch ep 21 fma and ep21fma brotherh00d
    the difference is far like shit!
    i have watch fma but i still enjoy fma brotherhood! ^^

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:42 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You guys are idiots, it is not the same as the first one o_O... and yes humanity fails again.
    -100 Human vs +100 points for FMA: Brotherhood

    Yeah, I'll admit that the first 13 episodes were similiar to the first 13 episodes to the old fullmetal alchemist, but they were clearly different from the original for I have watched the original show on DVD multiple of times.

    Reason I think people are pissed off, because alot of 'those' people don't like reading the manga or they don't like reading manga period.

    And yeah I know they skipped quite a few stuff from the manga, but they had no choice to do it that way and hoping that people can understand why they had to rush the first 13 episodes which I thought was a good choice on their part to do so.

    For those that decided to stop watching it, you've missed some really good episodes of 18-20. If you haven't read the manga.

    I don't know, maybe it is the economy that's making these people feel like show is shit, but I don't think it's shit seriously. It's no wonder that good in depth shows always gets axed because people have short attention spans and again humanity fails and goes the way of the dinosaurs.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:07 03/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    just what the anon above me says, watch it past ep14 before you open your mouth and rage

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:43 03/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The original series was made when the manga wasn't very far in the works, so the story was rewritten to have an ending.

    This version follows the manga, shortening as much as possible the parts that are similar to the first version, and now going into full swing with the manga plot.

    Both I and my girlfriend are enjoying the show, our favorite so far this season.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:53 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's already gotten to new material over a month ago, so most complaints come from people who didn't like the first "recap" arc.

    Judging by the length of the material and the prospective episode count, over three-quarters of the series will cover material from the original manga that the first series didn't.

    Therefore the ratings problem would be a case of a poor first impression.

    This is sad because the second half of the first series, compared to the manga, was utter shit.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:13 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm just wondering...how far is the difference between the first anime and manga actually? I only watch the first and a bit of the second but didn't read the manga...If the difference gap was too huge, people who already watch the first will be confused and then lost interest to the series (due to their ignorance that the second is actually the "right" story)

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:18 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, let's just say that they created a whole new villain just for the sake of the first season of the anime. And they stripped a main character of the manga from 3/4th of his reason to be in the story.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:03 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    the difference is quite huge.... the difference becomes apparent after greed dies, not in the hands of the hero but of the enemy from there the story is way different, also the presentation of the story... the presentation of the story is better in the old one be it a different story altogether...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:00 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, after the 'death' of Greed, the story in manga format is 100% different from the 2003 Anime. I like both, but in my opinion, its almost a stretch to name both Full Metal Alchemist, as the difference in story is like night and day.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:18 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ... if you want to know how different the two arcs are, just pick up the manga. You'll note that the only common things end at the death of Greed. Probably the end of the original manga series will be "agreeably similar" to the reformulated anime, since the connection to the movie woud make sense.

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    Comment by GANTZ Playboy!
    19:37 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This gives me a mild sigh of relief. Hopefully all the Emo-Hot Topic kids won't get an English version of this show after all?

    I really don't want a resurgence of this series to hit the USA.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:00 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    While i feel what you say, i wouldnt mind it, as the vampires-hot topic thing is getting old.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:23 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's only one problem with that.

    The 360 Marketplace has, for some time, been releasing subtitled episodes of the series (I myself have become quite addicted), and they're already on the 19th or so episode. I haven't checked lately.

    While we don't necessarily have to worry about it while it's at this stage, the sheer fact that there IS an English dub and that it IS available for purchase as such would indicate that an English transition is probably not far off.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:49 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its actually free on the funimation site.
    http://www4.funimation.com/video/?page=show&b=280 [http://www4.funimation.com/video/?page=show&b=280]

    Better than paying for it on Xboxlive.

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    Comment by Lichtsyn
    19:51 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    YOUR MOMMA IS ENDLESS8

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:29 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    u cant prove it

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:28 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    He's right. She only lasted about an hour. Hardly "endless". :/

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:08 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    When are they getting to the divergent episodes?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:31 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Since over six episodes ago (15). although there are some major plot differences in all episodes nearly. Much less filler.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:41 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree, the old seiyuu is much better.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:15 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If these fags who don't like it because it actually stays true to the manga end up getting it canceled, there will be blood.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:48 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I will help you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:34 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i suppose that can't be helped, its stuff we already seen...

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:34 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's what happens when you have near 12 episodes of recap/filler.

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    Comment by Panik
    03:25 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It really didn't feel like much of a recap/filler to me, because it wasn't the same stuff. After I started watching the new series I went back and watched the old one again just to see the differences and there were alot.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:55 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What is you icon from ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:32 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's necessary, since they fucked up the original adaptation throughout.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:35 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whats wrong with the series, although I don't watch my friends are generally pleased with it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:50 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Same here. I don't really see what's wrong with it. The pace and all that seems fine. Animation is not bad as well.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:45 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The problem is what previous posters already said: There has been lots of stuff that we have already seen from the previous series.

    So this made many people to stop watching it after a few episodes, hence the decline on the ratings.

    Nopw, the only way for the ratings to come back up, would be to have a great word of mouth going on to make people interested again. I don't know what's the current timeslot it is in, but it might actually help being in a more friendly timeslot, as far as it doesn't make them censure some episodes.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:37 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lower ratings => lower budget => lower quality => less happiness => even lower ratings => even lower budget => ... => cancellation

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:14 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    paradox of not watching anime

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:16 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    more like, "paradox of film production?"

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:40 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Maybe because a lot of people already know what's going to happen? It is faithful to the manga so far (for the most part)

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    Comment by Anonymous
    18:43 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think that's the main reason since many anime also taken from ongoing/finished manga and still attracts people though they know what'll happen eventually (assuming the anime is faithful to the manga)

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:42 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like it because it follows closely to the manga. They miss a lot of the good stuff out though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:45 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    too much slapstick

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:15 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think they're adding the slapsticks to help boosting the rate...too bad it's failed.....miserably....XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:28 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Slapstick's also in the manga.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:37 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, it's just being faithful to the manga, maybe people don't like the change in art. Also Ed is less of a hero now, and more of a bastard who tried to resurrect his dead mother. Ed is also losing spotlight to Mustang. Kind of how Index lost out to Railgun, even though the show was about Index...

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:14 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ed is thoroughly amusing though. I especially liked how he finally admitted that he is short. And when Winry said she was going back to Rush Valley a day before Operation Scar Bait commences, he asked her to stay because 'he might, no, he certainly will break his automail again'.

    Also, 'useless' Mustang.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:51 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Chen says:

    Can't take it serious with all those moments that are supposed to be funny. They should have made a normal second season and ignore the manga. If this is close to the manga, than the manga suckz dragonballz (compared to the earlier anime, anyway.)

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:55 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Chen says, too:

    btw I don't know the manga, but it feels pretty predictable. I was shocked it took Ed so long to figure out what mustang was doing with his little trick to safe someone.

    I only watch it, because I hope for some romance stuff. The loli was pretty cute too, but Scar just suckz nowadays.

    Tried watching one episode of the older FMA and was blown away by it's epicness. So, I still like FMA (but not brotherhood, which suckz a little compared to the old).

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:42 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Which episode of older FMA? I re-watched it, and it was a pile of crap. Too much filler, and (un)original characters. Dante? Robotic Guy Who Was Supposed To Be Dead? Nazis?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:00 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Jasper says:

    Yeah, Brotherhood is building up to big payoffs down the line (the manga definitely raises the stakes and the drama much higher than the first anime ever tried). In contrast, the first anime definitely petered out into meaningless backstory-obsessed, navel-gazing drivel halfway through and then ended on a massive trolling that people ate up like hotcakes.

    With the first anime and its movie sequel, it definitely came off like Studio Bones just said "Fuck it, we don't care anymore. Let's go to Nazi Germany since we might as well go for easy 'SHOCK VALUE'. It's not like those idiots watching will notice or care."






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