Hiroyuki vs Crypton: “Crypton is the New JASRAC”


2ch creator and NicoNico Douga boss Hiroyuki has harshly criticised Crypton Future Media, the company responsible for Hatsune Miku and the MAD boom surrounding her, implying the company is acting hypocritically and is in danger of becoming like JASRAC, the Japanese answer to the RIAA.

He made the comments on his blog:

“I get the impression Crypton have started doing something strange.

I believe Crypton’s CEO Mr Sato used to criticise JASRAC for destroying Japan’s MIDI scene with its use of copyright, but it seems at some point Crypton has started to become the mirror image of this in its behaviour.

There’s a nice song, “Shiroi Usagi,” [below] but Crypton had it deleted [from Nico, where it had nearly 200,000 views] for copyright infringement.

Where JASRAC were concerned, their reasoning in deleting MIDI was clear – “What are you doing uploading a composer’s works onto the Internet for free and with no permission?” However, just how Crypton’s copyright is infringed by “Shiroi Usagi” is a little hard to fathom, isn’t it?

What I don’t like about Crypton’s actions here is that by deleting anything for whatever reason using the pretext of copyright infringement, they are behaving even worse than JASRAC…”

The MAD in question, unmolested on YouTube as they seemingly take no notice of Japanese rights holders:

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    Comment by TerrawindX2
    05:11 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.4)

    There is no point to purchase vocaloid or 3D making software anymore now that the toolmakers are suing for copyright infringement. What's the point of composing original music when you're not allowed to post your works on video sharing websites for free? Are we only allowed to post it if we charge people per view?

    It's obvious, that if ideally all vocaloid material is removed from the internet due to copyright infringement then Hatsune Miku will no longer be popular as she is now.

    It's just as ridiculous as if Microsoft were to sue every book publisher for using Microsoft Office to publish their works... or as one user pointed out (which is the best example really) ink companies suing authors for publishing books using their particular brand of ink. Things that are supposed to be under the consumer's control, suddenly belong to the producers who sold them?

    If the publisher doesn't want its product to be used, then why bother selling them? A tool is a tool, you don't see Harvey Norman complaining about consumers fixing their roofs with their branded hammers OUT IN PUBLIC.

    Can anyone else think of other examples? My brain is fried for the night.

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    Comment by FSF
    09:28 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Miku, like every idol (tangible or otherwise), belongs to her fans.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:41 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    thats not true or i would of screwed them all already

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    Comment by Kinny Riddle
    00:41 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Wow, and it wasn't long ago that Hiroyuki and Crypton were on friendly terms. Crypton owes its Vocaloid success to NicoNico, which Hiroyuki had a part in creating. Looks like they've fallen out really badly.

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    Comment by broken…
    16:17 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Funny how almost every scene in the video makes an attempt to reveal the composing softwares flaws...

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    Comment by CC
    18:23 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Err if he's 'the boss' then why did he allow it to be taken down?

    If he thinks it's all a bunch of bullshit why not refuse to take it down? See if they're confident enough to take it to court.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:53 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is that Amami Haruka in the room beside Miku's ?
    WTF !

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:14 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I lol'd at the head bobbing.

    Comment by bakaloid
    21:36 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hiroyuki = fail

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    Comment by GunZ
    01:00 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Quick, throw Cryptonites to Crypton! It'll weaken them!

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    Comment by Ryoko
    13:24 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    YouTube is just as bad with American content. Boo draconian copyright policies!

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:03 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Any rights or obligations arising from the vocals created by the software belong to the software user. Just like any music synthesizer, the software is treated as a musical instrument and the vocals as sound. Under the term of license, the Character Vocal Series software can be used to create vocals for commercial or non commercial use, as long as the vocals do not offend public policy. In other words, the user is bound under the term of license with Crypton not to synthesize derogatory or disturbing lyrics. On the other hand, copyrights to the mascot image and name belong to Crypton. Under the term of license, a user cannot commercially distribute a vocal as a song sung by the character, nor use the mascot image on commercial products, without Crypton's consent.


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    Comment by metatron
    21:54 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    y so stiff Crypton?

    Comment by M
    13:18 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whoever wrote this article fails. It's read "Shiroi Kusuri" not "Shiroi Usagi". "Shiroi Usagi" means white rabbit -_-

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    Comment by dingo
    16:06 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The MIDI BGM is "Shiroi Usagi" and the video is "Shiroi Kusuri". Since the article mentioned JASRAC deleting MIDI and then Crypton doing the same I'd assume deleting the video is over the BGM.

    It's not totally clear in the article tho.

    Comment by lupohki
    09:47 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This isn't a original song. It's a parody of Aoi Usagi by Noriko Sakai - which explains the behind bars motif due to her recent happenings.


    Comment by Anonymous
    10:43 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crypton doesn't have reasonable standing to make removal requests.

    Songs created with Crypton's software belong to the creator, not Crypton. Note that Crypton isn't claiming in this case that the content creator was using illegally-copied Crypton software.

    For Crypton to claim they own those works would be like ink manufacturers claiming they "own" works (documents, art) created by the ink-purchasers.

    I don't know what the laws / legal processes / bribes / pressures are in Japan, though.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:27 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    video is ok, but hatsune miku isnt blinking which is a downside.

    Comment by Elle Lowel
    09:27 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crypton might get what's comming to them for letting their head get so swelled with popularity. Im sure you won't here Teto's creator bitch about her uploaded stuff.

    Comment by Schrobby
    09:19 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Damn copyright fags...

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:05 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can't help but wonder if we're losing the war with all the apathetic people around.

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    Comment by Cloudberry
    09:18 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crypton? It's almost like the planet Superman came from.

    Comment by Himitsu-saite
    02:19 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is Krypton, you got it wrong. the 'C' is an inferior planet.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:38 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Reading comprehension doesn't appear to be your strong suit.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    09:58 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then we can possibly predict the end outcome..

    Comment by Violet
    10:22 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, the "Crypton" thing is why I read this article... Thought there would be some whacked-out Superman reference.

    I was disappointed, to say the least.

    BTW, how are these people not getting sued by DC comics for copyright infringement? >_>

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:58 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Probably because krypton is an element, so DC never actually held the rights to it in the first place. Also, changing just one letter can often prevent copyrights. Because those laws are stupid anyway.

    Comment by hALOTOO
    17:09 14/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Suny right!

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    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    22:51 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thats why my company here in canada is called S*ny

    Comment by Weaponofmd
    09:20 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pirate Party FTW.

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    Comment by sanimej2
    09:20 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cute song. Why is she in jail?

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    Comment by Yggr
    20:40 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, why are YOU in jail?

    Comment by onemadcow
    11:20 16/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The song was originally by Noriko Sakai, a past idol and celebrity who was recently arrested on drug charges after being missing for nearly a week. I have no doubt that Crypton found no humor in the video. I, on the other hand, nearly did a spit take. Very funny indeed.

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    Comment by Toiski
    09:24 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's a new take on the word... Have the pedos come directly to jail to save time and effort!

    Comment by hell_xtremedawg
    13:58 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This is a parody to Sakai Noriko's "Aoi Usagi" hahahahahahahaha

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:54 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol Jailbait lovers are ephebophiles, not pedos.

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    Comment by Kamanashi
    10:08 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's a great idea. Maybe they should really try it.

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    Comment by b0122
    10:15 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    stop squeezing money out of commoners' art. commercializing miku songs are basically making miku a whore. free miku from bureaucrats.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:21 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "commercializing miku songs are basically making miku a whore."

    what the flying fuck... it's a goddamned soft synthesizer for christ's sake!

    the thing here is, once you buy vocaloid and a voice pack, the instrument is YOURS and crypton has no rights at all about what you do or not do with the synth. it's like if i uploaded a youtube of myself trying to pull a billy sheehan and yamaha deleting the video "for copyright infringement"

    pure bullshit

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    Comment by b0122
    13:48 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hey! show some respect! miku is not an INSTRUMENT! she's mai waifu!

    Comment by bakaloid
    21:28 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yesh. she's my waifu too!

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:17 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    wtf is with the rapid head-banging from 1:18 o_o scary.

    MMD Miku is cute sometimes...but sometimes she looks really yandere!

    ...lolol wtf are Kaito/Len doing.

    Comment by Lap
    20:29 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The name of the song translated is "White Medicine" and Miku keeps on singing she wants her "medicine" which the police does not like.....

    You work it out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:52 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hitting her head on the bars..

    Comment by bakaloid
    23:18 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like yanderes XP

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    12:09 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)


    Comment by Anonymous
    12:35 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol. Nori-P parody.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:40 12/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artists should be glad people use their songs because in a few years they will be forgotten by most.

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