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A survey of Japanese men reveals that most spurn sexually assertive women, with many thought instead to hanker after the mythical innocent and passive Japanese maidens of legend.

The survey, conducted by a marriage consultation agency, asked what men thought of “carnivorous” women, women who are prepared to take an active role in finding sexual partners, as opposed to the “herbivorous” men the Japanese mass media increasingly frets about.

The number one response was “depressing” with 27%. Next was “I’d like to socialise with one” with 22%. However, a meagre 3% wanted to marry one, 9% thought them “lascivious” and a further 6% found them irritating.

A variety of other responses were registered, and in total 53% of respondents held negative opinions of such assertive women.

A man surveyed explains that men seek “virginal” women, rather than ones who think often of men: “However old she is, unfortunately men just want an innocent woman.”

Via Dokujo Tsushin.

It might be hoped that the half of men willing to tolerate assertive women are the ever more common and ever less assertive “herbivorous” men, but the evidence seems not to support this


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    Comment by Anonymous
    15:05 15/05/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't think the reason behind this thinking is "Men want virgins because they lack confidence." More like "A man wants a woman to belong to him and ONLY him."

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:29 30/03/2011 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    A woman losing her virginity to you doesn't mean she belongs to you FFS.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:00 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Assertive women are fine as long as they have self control and have class. I don't get why being a quite a pushover must instantly mean you're innocent and being assertive means you're a ho.

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    Comment by Ukonkivi
    14:54 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Also, I doubt that the "herbivore" men are the ones doing things like going nuts over Kannagi.

    Otaku =/= girlyman.
    2ch otaku can be some of the biggest misogynists around. And just look what they said about men in dresses!

    Comment by OigoMiEggo
    15:18 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    For some reason, I kept misreading the title as "Japanese Men Spurn Cavernous Women, Hunt Virgins" @_@ I still see it now...

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:50 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ewwwww, virgins.

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    Comment by Ukonkivi
    14:51 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Carnivorous women FTW!

    Comment by Anonymous
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    Comment by KajunBowser
    13:01 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Men, be careful whom you try to date. Many "carnivores" can parade themselves as "herbivores."

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:46 09/04/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    you can generally tell just by listening to a females voice and/or looking into to her eyes whether she has been around or not..its a dead give away..

    Comment by gabecchi
    07:30 18/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    O.O Give'm to me then! Sheesh. AbsoLUTELY nothing wrong with a "Carnivorous" woman.

    Comment by hALOTOO
    13:27 10/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everybody wants a Tsugumi(the other girl)

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:36 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I want a virgin. If I had a girl that was too sex hungry then I wouldn't have enough energy to fap to hentai.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:10 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you where with a girl who was sex hungry you would'nt NEED hentai.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:44 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You underestimate the greatness of hentai!

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:02 13/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    That comment is why you're single. Do you see the pattern now?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:38 08/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow, these were not the sort of answers I was expecting.
    This is something new?
    Newsflash: men have preferred virgins in nearly every culture since ever!
    Due to how universal the idolization of female virginity is, it's not far fetched to assume the reason to be genetic.
    Also, the "men go for virgins because they are unconfident" is utter bullshit invented by women to vilify men because they can't accept the truth.
    I am aware that this can come across as a value-judgment towards non-virginal women, but it's not like that at all. I just think people need to see the facts here.

    Be wild and have fun if you wish, but realize that if you're looking for a serious relationship, having "been around the block" is going to be considered a flaw by many men. Fingerpointing and claiming that "you just can't handle a real woman!" is just going to make a fool of yourself.
    For every action there is a consequence, like it or not.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:55 16/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Evolutionarily, the men who sought out young mates tended to get more viable offspring.

    Yes, the desire for virgins has a physiological basis.

    Check out the neurochemistry of oxytocin sometime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:45 13/11/2010 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    I don't think that there is a preference for virgins when it comes to men desiring younger partners. Your reference was a little hard to understand as well. Women's fertility peaks at the age of twenty two declines after the age of thirty. A women most likely would not be a virgin by this time. Maybe it was different then, but I'm sure that virginity wasn't a major factor in primitive humans's decisions. It wasn't until religion came into the picture that people started worshiping hymens.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:30 11/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Slam Dunk of Truth(tm)!

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    Comment by Shockerz
    17:22 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't see any problem on assertive women in fact I'm kind like it somehow.

    Comment by Fonzer
    05:34 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    japanese men being more in touch with their feminit side?

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    Comment by tingle
    21:37 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm happy with the virgin i bought from the Philippines. after a couple months she has become more carnivorous yet i still see her as innocent.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:54 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The roles have changed,before men were the hunters preying after women.
    Now women are the hunters preying after men. XD

    Comment by Fonzer
    21:55 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well that was me,posting up there.
    I blame society,limiting and controling men too much,also the chemicals in the food.
    True men are being lost.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:34 23/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're being "lost" in place of having more true women.

    Comment by Zacharov
    22:25 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Let them prey upon me all they want, for as hard as they try, only I will have the final say if I want to marry them!

    And it will take a great deal of effort to impress me (which is why I'm ready to stay single if none of these women were my ideal type).

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:28 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dudes want romance too!

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:42 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Assertiveness does not rule out romance.

    Comment by Nicocide
    19:51 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Romance is dead. Didn't you get the memo?

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    Comment by KajunBowser
    13:03 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nope. Couldn't read it with all the bloodstains on the memo.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:00 07/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And thats why many men never get any, lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:02 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'll take your assertive women.

    Comment by Zacharov
    22:28 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Don't diss the 'herbivores'. Some herbivores are nastier than carnivores. For example, the hippotamus (known for chasing and mauling humans into a bloody mess), the rhinoceros (also known to maul people), the elephants (maul and trample), the bulls (more mauling) and the horses (and their bone-breaking kicks!).

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    Comment by KajunBowser
    13:02 07/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Uh, we're talking about men/women in a "figurative" light, amirite?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:35 23/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think they were just trying to make a point: sometimes herbivores make the carnivores look tame.

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    10:58 18/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    that man who was surveyed was trying to virgins are a safer pick than non-virgins they cant compare you to your ex and they are less likely to cheat on you or carry an STD or worse

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    Comment by tyciol
    12:37 12/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Can't really blame those poor guys, they can be intimidating and look slutty if they go out trying to hunt only meat all the time.

    If they're going to be like that they should at least take up athletics and MMA and become bisexuals to increase the appeal to compensate.

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    00:33 06/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i can think of 3 good reasons why us guys seek virgins

    1. we dont like woman he give themselves up to every boyfriend she gets (sluts)

    2. three words: sexually-transmitted-diseases!

    3. morals, if we have them then our partner should also

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    Comment by Mobius Pizza
    09:06 29/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hmm nearly all anime girls are assertive due to useless male lead. It may not be popular with general men but asertive women is definitely popular within Otakus.

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    Comment by Shunrei
    08:57 20/06/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    ah how lovely, in my country most girls are virgin, MOST of them..than that means a LOT of beautiful virgins here...well i am looking for japanese tough, but getting one of those beautiful virgin is fine too

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:17 10/12/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    the jap man, lacks balls, The giant Americans Took it away when we nuked them, twice. No guns in jap, no knives, and no agression. I hope china attempts to invade to force the jap males balls to drop once again...

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:10 07/02/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    know seriously i dont get it...in animes u rarely find a strong male lead sometimes...soo what its liek y'all putting down ur own standards..

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:11 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This begs the question. Lynch me all you want; but this is the question that has been oh so verily overdue.

    "What the hell is it you f***ing women want?"

    And as a follow up to just about any common or lame-ass answer.

    "We already did that, and either you didn't answer, didn't give a damn, or rejected it/us."

    Give it to us f***ing straight.

    I've been paying much attention to (wo)mankind, and all I have to say is: CUT THE BULLSHIT!!! The world is miserable enough as it is anyway, and nobody's doing a damn thing to improve it in any way. For better or worse, nothing's going to improve; but it doesn't mean you have to be a complete bastard/bitch about it.

    To get your way at the cost of another's own free will; it's almost 2010, and society hasn't changed one bit.

    ...Ah, screw it. I probably figured it out anyway. Oh, do I pity the world. :nods head in shame:

    Comment by Riiku
    20:48 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey, the world was shit at all times and will be. Do we need any improvement? I dont think its even possible to improve anything. It's a world where a man (woman or not) can do anything he/she pleases, and if you got hurt by someone, well it's just your fault. You shouldnt rely on society in the first place, all they tell you is bullshit. What do woman want? They want you to think they are gods, and you are trash. Dont let no woman screw you.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:33 23/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You've got to be kidding. You think women want to be thought of as gods, and men treated like trash? Fuck, do you pay attention to human society at all? What the hell do you call all of this brain dead patriarchy and insidious theme of misogyny placed all over the god damn planet?

    You want to know why exactly you guys nary a clue as to the desires of women? That's because you created a fantabulous societal structure that produces mind boggling gender roles. The contradictions in these roles are enough to actually cause people, man or woman, to not know what they want, nor how to tell when they've got what they want. Seriously, you guys want sex, but you want non-sexed partners. Then you proceed to spew bull about how you want awesome sex and prostitutes. THEN you accuse your partner of being a cheater.

    Jeez, you males must have the worst self-confidence and case of unfounded paranoia ever documented if you think you have to protect yourselves from the sex the created you. Oh, and to answer your elusive question: women want equality. And that'll happen when this whole "virgin morality" has become null and void.

    tl;dr You're butthurt, I'm butthurt, the world is butthurt. And we're all butthurt because of our hurting butts. The End

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    Comment by Wochy
    13:15 12/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Woman, shut the hell up. You honestly believe this is all one-sided? There is just as much misandry in this world as misogyny. You women put such ridiculous expectations on men as men do on women. So save your crap.

    And no, men don't have the worst case of self-confidence and paranoia. Maybe you women do, but not us. And no, women didn't create us. BOTH men and women did. Funny how you don't like the idea of women being treated as gods, but then you spout crap like you created us out of thin air.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:56 30/08/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    And how the fuck does misandry justify misogyny? And nice job strawmaning that persons argument. She never said women create people out of thin air.

    Fuck men's rights. Fuck women's rights. What happened to universal HUMAN rights?

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:00 13/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well put, Anonymous. As you can see in these comments that several people are misguided. Someday women and men won't be scorned for their actions, but that will probably never happen.

    People, please listen to reason. It has to start somewhere.

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    Comment by VZ
    05:26 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    More Japanese ladies for us gaijin then.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:25 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Prepare to be used like a toy then dumped out like trash.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:51 06/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    but she'll still say that us gaijin are way better than those japanese cowards

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:24 11/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wooh-fucking-hoo.







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