Loli Ban Dooms AV: “We’ll Only Be Able To Do MILF Porn…”

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Japan’s vibrant porn industry is terrified of the draconian nature of the impending loli ban, which not only threatens to ban much 2D material, but also threatens to eviscerate the world of Adult Video with its potentially draconian stipulations.

Porn makers worry that they will be forced to avoid any material featuring girls of marketable age in case they turn out to be underage, and that amateur pornography will be completely illegal as participants will need to all prove their age.

Those pushing the ban also demand any suggestion of a child result in the work being considered child pornography, which could mean any use of a school uniform could result in arrest…

The Diet is currently considering the details of laws which will attempt to criminalise “simple possession” of materials featuring erotic depictions of underage participants (distribution and production of such material is already strictly banned); 2D material has seemingly won a temporary reprieve, but the AV industry is deeply concerned that it will immediately bear the brunt of the new laws.

AV producers recount tales of being duped into making child pornography by lying minors, who are subsequently feted as victims whilst police prosecute the company:

“There was a case of a 16-year-old girl who stole her sister’s ID in order to appear in a porno, but the one who was arrested was the CEO of the company, for making child porn, with the girl being the ‘victim’. That seems to be fraud to us, but in the eyes of the state she was a ‘child’”.

The problem is made worse by the fact that Japan’s proposed law will consider any material featuring participants below (or possibly merely apparently below) 18 to be “children”, whereas more sensible jurisdictions (though not all) make at least some distinction between 16-year-olds and 12-year-olds.

Ambitious proponents of the ban even seek to have any material “apparently” featuring potential minors banned, which would mean that so much as a whiff of a school uniform would result in criminal sanctions, destroying much of the AV industry overnight.

The issue is so acute that some in the industry lament that “Soon we may only be able to make material featuring MILFs (“jukujo”; attractive mature ladies)”.

Another issue is that amateur productions, and perhaps even the videos of individuals, will have to obtain identification from all participants demonstrating that they are over 18, which in many genres of pornography may prove difficult.

Accidentally including any minors, or perhaps even being accused of including a minor and being unable to identify that person, may result in severe criminal charges.

There is also much concern that merely being sent such material, or seeing it in passing on the Internet, may result in a serious offence, a concern exacerbated by the fact that material which possesses no clear provenance may be freely interpreted as illegal.

Via Cyzo.

It remains to be seen whether Japan’s enormous, hugely profitable and presumably well connected porn industry will be able to mount any opposition to the laws; already AV makers and adult magazines are speaking out against the provisions, a far cry from the pathetically supine response of the otaku industries…


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    Comment by The Enigmatic Moondoggiebuiscuit
    11:11 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Last resort....

    sell Loliporn in net with passwords... the internet is our last frontier for us outlaws....

    to all banners of loli porn: May you all go to hell's 5th level and burn to crisp with your families and children! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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    Comment by Tate
    10:10 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    shit, first the anime and loli market and now av.

    what's with these Japanese lawmakers, haven't they got anything else better to do like fix the economy or address the nation's faltering birth rates and decreasing population.

    ....

    never mind, due to the demise of porn and av, rape can probably solve at least some of those problems.

    Comment by ManaYagami
    10:57 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess this is what Aso has been talking about all this time. The otaku tourism isn't about buying anime, manga and/or merchandising. It's about raping their women and their teenagers so that they have plenty of people in 20 years to pay for the shit that they are doing right now.

    Comment by Anonymous 2.0
    10:23 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE THIS INDUSTRY?! MY FELLOW OTAKUS AND FELLOW WEABOOS ALIKE, WE MUST HELP DEFEND JAPAN FROM THE EVIL THAT IS FASCIST MORALITY!!! THERE IS NOTHING MORE OF A HYPOCRISY THAN A MORALIST WHO FORBIDS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!
    WHY ARE WE KEEPING OUR RAGES INSIDE US, CHATTING WITH OTHER ANONS LIKE IT WAS ANOTHER ORDINARY DAY??
    IF WE DO NOT ACT, WE WILL BE THE SAME AS SPINELESS JAPAN WHO CANNOT EVEN DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM THESE F*UCKING FASCISTS!!
    I SAY, WE FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN!
    I SAY, WE BEGIN OUT OWN REVOLUTION!!
    I SAY, WE FIGHT DA POWA!!!

    WHO'S WITH ME?! THE NEW FACE OF THE INTERNET!!

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    Comment by ZippyDSMlee
    12:29 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In the US you are a sex offender if you are under age and take nude pictures of yourself. Next if are over the age of 18 and look under the age of 18 you will be taken out and shot, because the law via inane modern society dose not have a place for you.

    God I miss the days when a crime was something listed and vague.......

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:58 20/12/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's weird that in the U.S. and many other places in the world, you can sleep with a 16- or 17-year-old legal if you're over 18, but as soon as they take a topless selfie, they're a "child"? Really?!

    Is there REALLY any significant difference between 17 and 18, anyways? Not that I advocate for acting on anything here, but just logically, this issue baffles me.

    You can sleep with someone of age of consent, but take a picture of them and it's a crime? So weird. And now soon, it'll be challenging just to create FANTASY about young women?!

    And much, if not most, of Westernized society encourages teenage youth to explore sexuality, but then goes and claims they're mere "children" who shouldn't ever be sexualized, even in imaginary fiction?

    Japan and other places will try to ban the likes of schoolgirl-genre fetish/fantasy porn, but then produce endless supply of sexualized teen pop idols?

    People are so weird and hypocritical about this matter. They want to be seen as "moral" but deny their own inconsistency on the matter.

    All just to punish relatively smaller demographic of people who pose no threat to others in reality, enjoy ILLUSTRATED FICTION at home.

    We become an Orwellian world, more and more.

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    Comment by Jashin
    16:18 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There goes them schoolgirls... DAMN YOU AGNES-CHAN!

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:38 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    WTF? Are there even any underaged girls in AV (ADULT VIDEO) right now? Isn't that ALREADY not allowed?? The only idol I can think of that even posed topless before 18 was FUKO, and I think she was 17 when she did that, and now she's in gravure and not AV.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:54 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    reading about things like this makes me sick to my stomach. the only condolence I can find in this is that if the ban goes through and the Japanese economy suffers, at least the lawmakers and lobbyists who caused the ban can suffer with the rest of them.

    yes, I realize this is about AV's with real people, but punishing the people who unknowingly possess this material, while doing ABSOLUTELY nothing to the girls who got these people in trouble is absolutely sickening. reminds me exactly of American laws that jail people who have sexual relations with minors with harsher penalties than violent people and murderers (thankfully I'm a proud American Ex-pat). fucking contradictions.

    this has been on my mind for a while...is there ANYTHING (legal) that can be done to even the odds against all these conservative people who are only making these laws to feel good about themselves without solving any problems? I realize there are things like blowing things up, whining about it on the internet, and waiting for the apocalypse...but dammit I want things to change for the better now.

    Is spreading awareness of the contradictions of the law and actions like these all we can really do? After all in people like the US and Japan, in theory it is 'us' who choose our "leaders", no?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:03 20/12/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    You ask "...is there ANYTHING (legal) that can be done to even the odds against all these conservative people who are only making these laws to feel good about themselves without solving any problems?"

    Problem is, it isn't just conservatives who propose these measures. You've got MANY liberals who likewise want to propose strict measures, all just to satisfy their own pretentious sense of piety, too.

    Trust me--when it comes to vying for control and trying to fit people into where they "ought" to be, there's not much difference between a conservative and a liberal these days.

    I've had just as many ultra-liberal feminists try to control what I do and what I can create as I've seen ultra-conservative types do the same in their own way.

    The Orwellian nature overtaking the civilized world isn't a conservative vs. liberal thing at all. It's a power vs. power thing. ANY group that tries to control what we "ought" to do is a troubling thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:50 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would just like to mention too , for some of us its not about being pro or anti loli, its about being anti-censorship. I think its possible to not like loli but see that these bans or completely unreasonable.

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    Comment by WiseRooster
    14:54 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^Anon your right because censorship is just dammed anoying that pretty would kill any artistic idea known so far

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    Comment by WiseRooster
    15:01 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just to note made a few typos

    "^Anon your right because censorship is just dammed *annoying and that it would pretty much kill any artistic idea know so far"

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:49 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    save the loli's >.<;

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:45 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!! :(
    Must ... have ... lolicon pronz, i honestly hope this will never be implented and that the moralfags that rather go about fixing rights for internet girls instead of helping real people in africa or real rape victims rather then focusing on banning this just gets a grip and dies in a fire.
    Off to download some

    Comment by Guy
    06:44 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh well, all good things must come to an end, I suppose.

    After all, the signs were there when USA, Britain and Australia start jailing people who view 2D lolicon manga with sentences longer than people with commit manslaughter. :lol:

    Anyway, I guess it's about due time for a 10Km meteor to hit earth in the next decade or so. :D

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    Comment by Miroku74
    08:26 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    2012 seems like a good year for it to happen...

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    Comment by Martin
    06:39 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm not a fan of Loli, so banning Loli hentai ain't bother me one bit. On the contrary There'll be more MILF, which is what i love.

    Comment by ManaYagami
    07:10 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If your brain worked, you should follow the logical path that after the lolis, the MILF are the next target on the porn industry ban list.

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    Comment by Martin
    14:34 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then i'll just have to go for the real thing. Also If it's profitable, there'll always be the next thing(overseas production etc...) It's not like Hentai could only produced in Japan,.

    Take anime for example, almost half of them were produced in Korea, same goes for Hentai.

    Make sense?

    P.S. No offense, but i hate Loli in the first place(2D and 3D).

    Comment by gunzaku
    18:40 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    go for the real thing??

    you do know these things (2d loli, hentai rape anime, tentacles, schoolgirl av) exist because we cant have the real thing...don't you?

    p.s. i hate those who hate loli. sue me

    Comment by gunzaku
    18:37 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you are so right....like if japan ever ban gunpla, i just buy from china made gunpla!! why must i watch japan anime?

    make sense?

    ....no it doesn't!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:07 20/12/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gain the power to censor lolis, and soon, someone will find a way to ban MILFs. Probably in the name of some mode of feminism.

    The problem isn't content--it's the principle. This mode of unjust censorship targets the wrong thing in life. Censorship is a cancer that spreads.

    I say, go find the REAL sickos who do REAL things of criminal nature--not people just enjoying the safe space of illustrated, fictional imagination.

    Because while "lolis" is the target, trust me--MILFs will be next.

    Comment by abort-retry-fail
    06:45 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well, an 18 year old in most countries is an adult. Japan's official age of consent laws is 16, and women can get married at 16 legally.

    To call a married 16 year old girl a child still would be an insult.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:28 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The best way to stop this is for some enterprising politician to tack on an amendment to the law unequivocally accepting responsibility for Nanking. That'd destroy its chances of passing nice and easy.

    Comment by Otanon
    08:34 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ah, accidental spam.

    Comment by Otanon
    08:33 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Welcome to England, I guess.

    Comment by imhgtsukishiro
    08:48 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess it's time to create a new country: where we have everything that's good about Japan's anime, manga, games, culture, technology, and most especially its once-upon-a-time freedom of speech. Oh - and ban femi-nazis from the country and from politics

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:09 20/12/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd move there and become a four-star general in your Gundam-armed military.

    Comment by mechwarrior
    07:49 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The one industry that is still hiring is being legislated out of existence. I hope the moral absolutists realize this may not be a good thing.

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    Comment by vesper_nova
    09:08 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    they wouldn't care, they only care about themsevles

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    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    08:26 02/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If a loli ban does take place i really will become a terrorist

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    Comment by Tommy
    11:29 04/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There goes the most profitable industry in Japan. What the hell is going on in the world today?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:46 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i dun care , just love this pic XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 05/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a "moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag" think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.

    I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line " i told you so".

    And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.

    Comment by kanai
    06:14 05/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a "moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag" think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.

    I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line " i told you so".

    And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.

    Oh and it seems i double posted without using my name so ive not corrected that issue.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:12 12/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    how could you degenerate down to this JAPAN?

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:06 05/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry I take back my last post, I thought this article was talking about 2D aswell.

    I don't care if underage AV is banned, it should be!

    But my point still stands, if they ban school girl hentai.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:03 05/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hentai fans unite, kill the Feminazi Gestapo.

    School girls are the main and most popular Hentai fetish, this would destroy the whole industry. Japan stand up for yourself, defend your hentai honour.

    Comment by CanadaMann
    02:57 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
    Have you people ever read history?
    Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.

    You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.

    The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.

    And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.

    you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice

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    Comment by metatron
    06:03 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    just what the hell is going on!?!

    spineless politicians bending to UNICEF now?

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    Comment by Zophier
    09:22 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm afraid so

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    Comment by WiseRooster
    06:37 03/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Proof be in the puddin' course even most of us can try to support the yakuza

    we fight back and help em out then we put these moral hoppin idiots & femnazi's into a corner.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:44 12/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artist of the picture? :x

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    19:45 12/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh my god this pic is awesome.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:16 22/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    This site has been rated E-10 for Emotional content. Please wait in the Party Van Escort Submission Position while a Party Van Associate comes to escort you to the Party. Thank you for your compliance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:14 09/09/2011 # ! Neutral (0)

    BLASPHEMY!!!

    The FACT of Western Civilization itself being founded by Greek & Roman pederasts & a few Jews… it’s blindingly apparent given the near universal practice of middle aged men being sensually involved with teens (or even pre-teens) that this was regarded not only as normal or even expected, but was actually set forth as an example of the “Highest Ideal”. Aside from Emperor Caligula banning all nursing infant & toddler prostitution in the Empire, for which he was praised (hey, gotta win points with the general populace after forcing the senators (wives) to work in his bordello, grin) & Emperor Domitian banning all sexual relations between adults and girls under the age of eight in the Empire (exception “Adult Entertainment” in the arena.

    Mind you, these were both politicians who were considered insane…. I don’t believe this blog has yet reached the level of warranted opprobrium in castigation of feminist hypocrite moralfags. Marked contrast between the more or less reasonable “Morality Crusades” of men, vs. feminists… notwithstanding the elite citizen’s age for female marriage being 14 in Greece, 12 in Rome & 12 in Christendom (or leess for the common people under special or cultural circumstances)..

    As in Christendom: Western Civilization is founded upon her eternal Father impregnating (“coming upon” KJV) a Jewish 12 year old named Mary and giving her to a 30 something year old man named Joseph to sleep naked with and boink at least a Quicky on the “real” wedding night to be fully legally married according to Judaism.
    Smoke that in your pipe. Go straight to Hell with no get out of jail ticket... ohh Moh his name be lolicon agrees too.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:05 02/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    *shrug* Doesn't bother me. Most "loli" characters don't fit my definition of loli, they're "lolitas"
    Besides that I like milfs, milf hentai is usually more hot and sticky then loli hentai.

    Comment by Name
    17:26 24/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a sad, sad future for all of us. Once they take this away, all of our other rights will be taken away one by one as well. And I'm saying this from the perspective of a female.

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    Comment by xenotypos
    22:17 24/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Rather than submit to that, why not react? (even if we aren't japaneses, it's a world problem and it was mainly provoked by the West).
    An awful lot of people are relatively involved, the democraty is a totalitarian system: the number is the power, then we have to use the number.

    I'm french so I'm not really aware of all of that, if anyone have a link or else about it (reaction, movement... who knows? xD)...









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