You are proceeding to a page containing mature content. Is this OK?

check Yes, show me everything
close No, hide anything sensitive

Loli Ban Dooms AV: “We’ll Only Be Able To Do MILF Porn…”

tony-botan-nabe-school-uniform

Japan’s vibrant porn industry is terrified of the draconian nature of the impending loli ban, which not only threatens to ban much 2D material, but also threatens to eviscerate the world of Adult Video with its potentially draconian stipulations.

Porn makers worry that they will be forced to avoid any material featuring girls of marketable age in case they turn out to be underage, and that amateur pornography will be completely illegal as participants will need to all prove their age.

Those pushing the ban also demand any suggestion of a child result in the work being considered child pornography, which could mean any use of a school uniform could result in arrest…

The Diet is currently considering the details of laws which will attempt to criminalise “simple possession” of materials featuring erotic depictions of underage participants (distribution and production of such material is already strictly banned); 2D material has seemingly won a temporary reprieve, but the AV industry is deeply concerned that it will immediately bear the brunt of the new laws.

AV producers recount tales of being duped into making child pornography by lying minors, who are subsequently feted as victims whilst police prosecute the company:

“There was a case of a 16-year-old girl who stole her sister’s ID in order to appear in a porno, but the one who was arrested was the CEO of the company, for making child porn, with the girl being the ‘victim’. That seems to be fraud to us, but in the eyes of the state she was a ‘child’”.

The problem is made worse by the fact that Japan’s proposed law will consider any material featuring participants below (or possibly merely apparently below) 18 to be “children”, whereas more sensible jurisdictions (though not all) make at least some distinction between 16-year-olds and 12-year-olds.

Ambitious proponents of the ban even seek to have any material “apparently” featuring potential minors banned, which would mean that so much as a whiff of a school uniform would result in criminal sanctions, destroying much of the AV industry overnight.

The issue is so acute that some in the industry lament that “Soon we may only be able to make material featuring MILFs (“jukujo”; attractive mature ladies)”.

Another issue is that amateur productions, and perhaps even the videos of individuals, will have to obtain identification from all participants demonstrating that they are over 18, which in many genres of pornography may prove difficult.

Accidentally including any minors, or perhaps even being accused of including a minor and being unable to identify that person, may result in severe criminal charges.

There is also much concern that merely being sent such material, or seeing it in passing on the Internet, may result in a serious offence, a concern exacerbated by the fact that material which possesses no clear provenance may be freely interpreted as illegal.

Via Cyzo.

It remains to be seen whether Japan’s enormous, hugely profitable and presumably well connected porn industry will be able to mount any opposition to the laws; already AV makers and adult magazines are speaking out against the provisions, a far cry from the pathetically supine response of the otaku industries…

Leave a Comment

319 Comments

  • This site has been rated E-10 for Emotional content. Please wait in the Party Van Escort Submission Position while a Party Van Associate comes to escort you to the Party. Thank you for your compliance.

  • BLASPHEMY!!!

    The FACT of Western Civilization itself being founded by Greek & Roman pederasts & a few Jews… it’s blindingly apparent given the near universal practice of middle aged men being sensually involved with teens (or even pre-teens) that this was regarded not only as normal or even expected, but was actually set forth as an example of the “Highest Ideal”. Aside from Emperor Caligula banning all nursing infant & toddler prostitution in the Empire, for which he was praised (hey, gotta win points with the general populace after forcing the senators (wives) to work in his bordello, grin) & Emperor Domitian banning all sexual relations between adults and girls under the age of eight in the Empire (exception “Adult Entertainment” in the arena.

    Mind you, these were both politicians who were considered insane…. I don’t believe this blog has yet reached the level of warranted opprobrium in castigation of feminist hypocrite moralfags. Marked contrast between the more or less reasonable “Morality Crusades” of men, vs. feminists… notwithstanding the elite citizen’s age for female marriage being 14 in Greece, 12 in Rome & 12 in Christendom (or leess for the common people under special or cultural circumstances)..

    As in Christendom: Western Civilization is founded upon her eternal Father impregnating (“coming upon” KJV) a Jewish 12 year old named Mary and giving her to a 30 something year old man named Joseph to sleep naked with and boink at least a Quicky on the “real” wedding night to be fully legally married according to Judaism.
    Smoke that in your pipe. Go straight to Hell with no get out of jail ticket… ohh Moh his name be lolicon agrees too.

  • Anonymous says:

    *shrug* Doesn’t bother me. Most “loli” characters don’t fit my definition of loli, they’re “lolitas”
    Besides that I like milfs, milf hentai is usually more hot and sticky then loli hentai.

  • NOOOOOOOO I can’t belive this! Whatever will we do without the sweetness of lolipops in our lives, how dare they take away our sweets? I mean we can discern fiction from reality and it doesn’t encourage rape our underage sex, since any moral and sane person understands it’s not right push kids to do impure actions sigh

  • Come now,

    Around half+ of all Japanese men from politicians on down to the janitor are into things sailor suit.

    Anyhow, don’t some 12th graders in school turn 18 during their Senior High year?

    Aren’t students who flunked out a year or two in earlier grade levels 18 or 19 years of age during their Senior High year in Japan (and U.S.A., Great Britain, etc.)?

    That’s why “High School” porn has always been legal under any circumstance in the U.S.A. – because you can be/are dealing with “adults”.

    As long as they don’t put them in exclusively (only) Middle School uniforms, put a sign over the school building saying “so and so Middle School”, and Title the DVD “Forcible rape of green underage students at so and so Middle School (or Grade School) you are legally in the clear even under draconian laws.

    Should be declared unconstitutional immediately.

    amirite?

    • xenotypos says:

      Rather than submit to that, why not react? (even if we aren’t japaneses, it’s a world problem and it was mainly provoked by the West).
      An awful lot of people are relatively involved, the democraty is a totalitarian system: the number is the power, then we have to use the number.

      I’m french so I’m not really aware of all of that, if anyone have a link or else about it (reaction, movement… who knows? xD)…

  • Anonymous says:

    Sorry I take back my last post, I thought this article was talking about 2D aswell.

    I don’t care if underage AV is banned, it should be!

    But my point still stands, if they ban school girl hentai.

  • Anonymous says:

    Hentai fans unite, kill the Feminazi Gestapo.

    School girls are the main and most popular Hentai fetish, this would destroy the whole industry. Japan stand up for yourself, defend your hentai honour.

  • No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a “moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag” think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.

    I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line ” i told you so”.

    And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.

    Oh and it seems i double posted without using my name so ive not corrected that issue.

  • Anonymous says:

    No i find that Mugi-chan Eyebrow has a point about obama doing these ideas, because to be frank its not obama thats in control of what he is actually trying to achieve it is that of the people behind the american government. The people hidden behind the curtain of the american government wish to control this world in any way they see fit, from world wars to 9/11 nearly everything has been planned for their benefit and from the past few eyars there has been talks of a one world government and currency which to me seems as another one of their plans put in motion and with this one world government comes total control of law and with that power heck i can see a lot of control of nearly everything coming their way. So before any anon or anyone else decides to brand me a “moral fag or trolling fag or any other kind of so called fag” think first before you speak utter nonsense because calling someone a fag of the sorts is a stupid way of calling such childish names.

    I do make sense because ive studied on events that have taken place all around the world linking to illuminati and see how they achieve their goals of total control, i know that one day when this total control is achieved i will then say to others the typical line ” i told you so”.

    And for all thos anon on here that argue and call others fags or asses or grow up first they should grow up and actually use a name and a validated reason for their argueing instead of hiding behind a profile without an actual proper individual name.

  • CanadaMann says:

    India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
    Have you people ever read history?
    Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.

    You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.

    The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.

    And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.

    you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice

  • Anonymous says:

    Considering how flat some japanese adult women are, trying to be sure is gonna be a bitch.

    Perhaps it’s a plot to boobify the nation by inculcating a love for huge honkers?

  • C’mon japan.It isn’t so hard to beat this.Make a not on-line petittion.Report on many internet places where the locations of the pettion will be,get real signatures by people signed by hand.Show it to the goverment and the unban will sucseed.
    Only if all of you weren’t so lazy about this and would actualy fight for it then rather waste your time on the internet arguments.

    Only people in japan can help in unbanning this i think.

  • Surely this is just bringing legislation into line with almost every other country?
    Certainly here in the UK, producing or viewing indecent images of minors is a prosecutable offence resulting in hefty jail time, your name being added to a register of sex offenders as well as the obvious social stigmata.
    Yes the onus needs to be on producers to ensure that their models are legal, the same as in other countries, otherwise children are still too likely to be exploited.
    However reading some of the comments here, it seems that many posters are either already viewing child pornography (yes that is what it is), or do not care if vulnerable children are sexually exploited.

    • Peter Lorre’s namesake,

      I recall concerning your marvelous place of residence that unlike most States in America y’all can have sex with 16 year old girls, your newspapers featured topless Page 3 girls some of whom are 16 and 17, your Men’s “Girlie” magazines such as Mayfair and others (GB’s equivalent of U.S. Playboy/Penthouse) often featured 16 and 17 year fully nude erotic models in and out of school blazers, your strip clubs/Windmill/Soho girls were regularly 16 & 17 years of age…

      That was your decades long finestanding tradition until a few years ago… care to explain?

    • “Bringing legislation into line with almost every other country” is not inherently a good thing. And I don’t get why people keep focusing on the issue of who has to prove the models’ age. That is only a minor part of the impending restrictions…

  • maderlulz says:

    The users on 2ch, even all otaku will be the ones to fight in Japan, I hear they are timid and more aggressive than those spineless cowards heeding to all accosting demands by the evil axis.

  • Anonymous says:

    WTF? Are there even any underaged girls in AV (ADULT VIDEO) right now? Isn’t that ALREADY not allowed?? The only idol I can think of that even posed topless before 18 was FUKO, and I think she was 17 when she did that, and now she’s in gravure and not AV.

  • Anonymous says:

    I would just like to mention too , for some of us its not about being pro or anti loli, its about being anti-censorship. I think its possible to not like loli but see that these bans or completely unreasonable.

  • Anonymous says:

    reading about things like this makes me sick to my stomach. the only condolence I can find in this is that if the ban goes through and the Japanese economy suffers, at least the lawmakers and lobbyists who caused the ban can suffer with the rest of them.

    yes, I realize this is about AV’s with real people, but punishing the people who unknowingly possess this material, while doing ABSOLUTELY nothing to the girls who got these people in trouble is absolutely sickening. reminds me exactly of American laws that jail people who have sexual relations with minors with harsher penalties than violent people and murderers (thankfully I’m a proud American Ex-pat). fucking contradictions.

    this has been on my mind for a while…is there ANYTHING (legal) that can be done to even the odds against all these conservative people who are only making these laws to feel good about themselves without solving any problems? I realize there are things like blowing things up, whining about it on the internet, and waiting for the apocalypse…but dammit I want things to change for the better now.

    Is spreading awareness of the contradictions of the law and actions like these all we can really do? After all in people like the US and Japan, in theory it is ‘us’ who choose our “leaders”, no?

    • You ask “…is there ANYTHING (legal) that can be done to even the odds against all these conservative people who are only making these laws to feel good about themselves without solving any problems?”

      Problem is, it isn’t just conservatives who propose these measures. You’ve got MANY liberals who likewise want to propose strict measures, all just to satisfy their own pretentious sense of piety, too.

      Trust me–when it comes to vying for control and trying to fit people into where they “ought” to be, there’s not much difference between a conservative and a liberal these days.

      I’ve had just as many ultra-liberal feminists try to control what I do and what I can create as I’ve seen ultra-conservative types do the same in their own way.

      The Orwellian nature overtaking the civilized world isn’t a conservative vs. liberal thing at all. It’s a power vs. power thing. ANY group that tries to control what we “ought” to do is a troubling thing.

  • In the US you are a sex offender if you are under age and take nude pictures of yourself. Next if are over the age of 18 and look under the age of 18 you will be taken out and shot, because the law via inane modern society dose not have a place for you.

    God I miss the days when a crime was something listed and vague…….

    • It’s weird that in the U.S. and many other places in the world, you can sleep with a 16- or 17-year-old legal if you’re over 18, but as soon as they take a topless selfie, they’re a “child”? Really?!

      Is there REALLY any significant difference between 17 and 18, anyways? Not that I advocate for acting on anything here, but just logically, this issue baffles me.

      You can sleep with someone of age of consent, but take a picture of them and it’s a crime? So weird. And now soon, it’ll be challenging just to create FANTASY about young women?!

      And much, if not most, of Westernized society encourages teenage youth to explore sexuality, but then goes and claims they’re mere “children” who shouldn’t ever be sexualized, even in imaginary fiction?

      Japan and other places will try to ban the likes of schoolgirl-genre fetish/fantasy porn, but then produce endless supply of sexualized teen pop idols?

      People are so weird and hypocritical about this matter. They want to be seen as “moral” but deny their own inconsistency on the matter.

      All just to punish relatively smaller demographic of people who pose no threat to others in reality, enjoy ILLUSTRATED FICTION at home.

      We become an Orwellian world, more and more.

  • The Enigmatic Moondoggiebuiscuit says:

    Last resort….

    sell Loliporn in net with passwords… the internet is our last frontier for us outlaws….

    to all banners of loli porn: May you all go to hell’s 5th level and burn to crisp with your families and children! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • Anonymous 2.0 says:

    WHAT CAN WE DO TO SAVE THIS INDUSTRY?! MY FELLOW OTAKUS AND FELLOW WEABOOS ALIKE, WE MUST HELP DEFEND JAPAN FROM THE EVIL THAT IS FASCIST MORALITY!!! THERE IS NOTHING MORE OF A HYPOCRISY THAN A MORALIST WHO FORBIDS FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!
    WHY ARE WE KEEPING OUR RAGES INSIDE US, CHATTING WITH OTHER ANONS LIKE IT WAS ANOTHER ORDINARY DAY??
    IF WE DO NOT ACT, WE WILL BE THE SAME AS SPINELESS JAPAN WHO CANNOT EVEN DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM THESE F*UCKING FASCISTS!!
    I SAY, WE FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN!
    I SAY, WE BEGIN OUT OWN REVOLUTION!!
    I SAY, WE FIGHT DA POWA!!!

    WHO’S WITH ME?! THE NEW FACE OF THE INTERNET!!

  • shit, first the anime and loli market and now av.

    what’s with these Japanese lawmakers, haven’t they got anything else better to do like fix the economy or address the nation’s faltering birth rates and decreasing population.

    ….

    never mind, due to the demise of porn and av, rape can probably solve at least some of those problems.

    • ManaYagami says:

      I guess this is what Aso has been talking about all this time. The otaku tourism isn’t about buying anime, manga and/or merchandising. It’s about raping their women and their teenagers so that they have plenty of people in 20 years to pay for the shit that they are doing right now.

  • Anonymous says:

    RAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!! 🙁
    Must … have … lolicon pronz, i honestly hope this will never be implented and that the moralfags that rather go about fixing rights for internet girls instead of helping real people in africa or real rape victims rather then focusing on banning this just gets a grip and dies in a fire.
    Off to download some

  • I guess it’s time to create a new country: where we have everything that’s good about Japan’s anime, manga, games, culture, technology, and most especially its once-upon-a-time freedom of speech. Oh – and ban femi-nazis from the country and from politics

  • abort-retry-fail says:

    Well, an 18 year old in most countries is an adult. Japan’s official age of consent laws is 16, and women can get married at 16 legally.

    To call a married 16 year old girl a child still would be an insult.

  • Oh well, all good things must come to an end, I suppose.

    After all, the signs were there when USA, Britain and Australia start jailing people who view 2D lolicon manga with sentences longer than people with commit manslaughter. 😆

    Anyway, I guess it’s about due time for a 10Km meteor to hit earth in the next decade or so. 😀

    • Gain the power to censor lolis, and soon, someone will find a way to ban MILFs. Probably in the name of some mode of feminism.

      The problem isn’t content–it’s the principle. This mode of unjust censorship targets the wrong thing in life. Censorship is a cancer that spreads.

      I say, go find the REAL sickos who do REAL things of criminal nature–not people just enjoying the safe space of illustrated, fictional imagination.

      Because while “lolis” is the target, trust me–MILFs will be next.

      • Then i’ll just have to go for the real thing. Also If it’s profitable, there’ll always be the next thing(overseas production etc…) It’s not like Hentai could only produced in Japan,.

        Take anime for example, almost half of them were produced in Korea, same goes for Hentai.

        Make sense?

        P.S. No offense, but i hate Loli in the first place(2D and 3D).

  • Anonymous says:

    The best way to stop this is for some enterprising politician to tack on an amendment to the law unequivocally accepting responsibility for Nanking. That’d destroy its chances of passing nice and easy.

  • BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    I like Japanese MILF’s mind you as well (called Jukujo. Right?). Still, cute girls in seifuku. Don’t you fucking dare take that away from me or anyone.

    Fuck all the moral faggot alarmists just because unfortunately, bad shit does happen to children and teens. You can’t prevent every single instance or rape. Minority Report, here we come.

  • Anonymous says:

    I really don’t understand these bans. Is it really so hard to tell these feminists “No”. What happened to Japan’s male superiority attitude? If Japan wants to give women equality then that’s fine but there are better ways to do it. At this rate Japanese men will be castrated at birth.

    • It’s gonna go underground next. But expect to pay a high price for your loli fix.

      The yakuza equivalent of Al Capone and ‘Lucky’ Lucianno will still want their ‘cut’, see?

  • Anonymous says:

    So now it’s illegal to LOOK underage? WTF? Seriously Japan stand the fuck up for yourselves. If you let these bans go through then I won’t feel bad when America renames you Area 11.

  • Anonymous says:

    These bans will likely go through as japan just rolls over when someone says they are doing something “wrong”. Japan won’t even fight censorship laws, so its unlikely they will fight a ban on anything, they will just bend over and take it like they always do, because they are afraid of appearing strange to foreigners

  • Well, at least now it will probably hit where it hurts and PERHAPS someone will do something regarding this stupid bullshit that has being going around to protect fictional children on anime and “affiliates”. It’s not like there are a ton of REAL children in dire need for education and helth care around the world right?!

    Also I hope people don’t stop there and fucking arrange public executions to whoever thinks is moral enough to impose a ban on someone’s creative work for any freaking reason!

  • Punchmyballs says:

    i get it know, the goal is to make everyone get into prison, there once inside, they can do all the loli material they want, they can see all what they want, but they will not need to work, or worry about having a place since the estate will provide for all of them, thus making prisons a paradise

  • CanadaMann says:

    Weeks ago I said the feminists are pushing so otaku should fight instead of continue discussing and chattering.

    however people said the feminists would not be able to do so because it’s against freedom of speech

    time by time, I am proven right. First loli ban 2 years ago, then the rape ban, then the multi-category ban, and now loli total ban and AV ban.

    Yet you people are still “discussing and cursing”

    There is nothing to be achieved from such group of moron and cowards.

    You people indeed deserve the ban because YOU NEVER BOTHER FIGHT.

    • CanadaMann says:

      1. rape games banned -> I said otaku shall fight, not chat -> people say the ban will eventually stop

      then

      more categories banned -> I emphasized that fighting is needed, like a demonstration -> people continue to curse feminists and chat

      then

      a possible total-ban on loli in eroge and AV is now coming -> people continue to ……

      haha
      I shall enjoy watching how you morons will react when you get total-ban in ALL EROGE.

      • CanadaMann says:

        India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice
        Have you people ever read history?

        Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.

        You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.

        The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.

        And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.

        you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh come on, start suck a useless war is so… unprofitable, why must we fight why the direct victims not even bother to fight for them self ??? Ah, and I don’t give a shit if they ban all eroge though, I can create em to enjoy my self =P

        • CanadaMann says:

          India achieved independence by heavy sacrifice

          Have you people ever read history?

          Why are you asking me the way to fight? there are plenty in the history! choose one is easy.

          You people just dont fight and always curse the feminists without any real action.

          The mafia in Japan has no reason to support a group of cowards who cannot even fight for their only hobby.

          And there will no be any countries starting a war or throwing a nuke at feminists.

          you are all doomed for your stupidity and cowardice

      • vesper_nova says:

        hmm in america alcohol was ban on what would be known as the prohibition. it lasted for 13 years. raised by moralest if failed majorly by being unable to full enforce it. while it can be said that this ban won’t last if pass. it doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t die overnight.

  • Anonymous says:

    By 2012, all forms of pornography will cease to exist. Special Anti-Loli Taskforce teams will be set up to hunt down and persecute any of those who possess pornographic materials…

    • Anonymous says:

      And then they keep all those pornographic materials to enjoy it them self, at least that seem to be happening in my country T_T. Thank god we still have the Internet. We are living in a world that govern by hypocrites, will it ever end??? After the next world war perhaps.

  • Sigh, its all that can be said, ppl just turn a blind eye,not realizing the teens arent what they used to be, nothing more can be said, no one will listen and they have already decided what to do, not even all the protests on the world can stop this.
    Just one thing to do, download as much loli comics/pics/hentai as possible before they start to remove these torrents from trackers.

  • NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO is it real!!!!!!??

    I wonder now how many people will go to jail now… how many will commit suicide..how many will lose their jobs and how many will go to rape lolis… Zetsuboshita!!!!

  • ManaYagami says:

    There you have it. The moralfags only needed to take a small step after imposing their will on the visual novels industry without any kind of opposition. Keep going Japan and people will only be able to have sex on the missionary position with their husband/wife and that, only for the act of procriation. *claps*

  • I see this as a good thing, the bigger the impact of the ban the more desperate they will be to fight and as more people join the counter movement they gain strength.
    Who knows, maybe the japs will finally grow the balls to fight for their freedom.

    An official and obviously adult AV in a uniform pretending to be a kid, CP? Yeah this is the extreme of the ridiculous to protect the fictitious kids. Retarded.

    • This is what I fear; that eventually ecchiness towards “children”, i.e. schoolgirls like the ones found in the mangas To Love-ru, Mahoromatic, Ai yori aoshi, et al. will be banned and such mangas made illegal to own (long, long prison sentences and lifetime inclusion on the Sex Offenders Register come to mind) despite the fact that they’ve been legally bought in some cases from official sources. Oh the sadness…

      Eventually I can see also anime being banned in general “because as it is fantasy and in no way has living characters, that since it has no relation and/or bearing to any living being, doesn’t it by extension mean that thus it is harmfull to the minds of individuals watching it and so must be banned”? (*Sarcasm*)

  • Blame the girl not the company they didn’t now it’s the girls fault! oh and if they forcefully do it then the company should be gotten rid of but if the girl did it then yeah. my concern is the 2d loli ban. quick go out and by large safes and hide your stash!

  • maderlulz says:

    You know.. loli will still exist because other countries will produce it, maybe not manga or anime because their quality will be shit but cg pics of lolis will roam rapid from other countries still after the ban of loli and every other fetish japan has graciously shown us being prohibited. People will try to recreate from the genuine article and sometimes succeed or fail. So cheer up fellow 2d smut lovers, we have the retaliation to look forward to! The final battle against the evil axis!

    • ManaYagami says:

      Taking into account that over 99.9% of that material is produced in Japan and that Japanese are spineless cowards, it will take a long time until the rest of the world will be able to supply the same quantity and quality of the works that would be lost if this continues.

  • what is with all this protect the child hysteria,it’s not like that 16y old girl didn’t know what she was doing.And it’s not like she is actualy still a child,somewhere age of 15,16 is kinda where they can decide for themselfs.But age isn’t the limit where one person can properly decide stuff.It’s differences how one matures,can be over or lower of that age.
    Still she should have no right to be in an av until she is of legal age.And also she tricked them,so why blame the company?

    Shure make everyone show ids,that is a proper decision anyway that i support.But people who are legal in av should not be limmited to what they are doing or wearing.

  • Anonymous says:

    Japanese government prohibits child porn; pedophiles outraged.

    You can’t even hide behind the “well they’re 2D so it’s a victimless crime” argument this time, so face facts.

  • Anonymous says:

    A few months ago, I saw them banning raep games. I stood quietly by the side.

    Then I saw them banning 2D lolis, and I still stood quietly by the side.

    This time they want to force MILFs onto us. I will stand up!

    Arise fellow pedobears, the Republic needs you!

  • Anonymous says:

    Wow… Ban this and ban that.. How about I ban your balls you motherfuckers…

    Bans are getting overrated… Ban violence in shows while your at it. I’d like to see the outcome.

  • Rick_In_Texas says:

    The US porn industry made similar arguments about fraud on the part of under-aged actors/actresses. However laws like this haven’t damaged the US porn industry.

    Outside of the age thing, Japan’s porn industry has a real problem. Outlawing the acting out of fetishes and other types of porn is very subjective.

  • clannadfanboy213 says:

    Principles and “morality” turning 180 and sudden hate/opposition to a harmless cultural phenomenon that was once ignored.

    Is this that terrifying monstrosity that people call “modernization”, or is this the deconstruction of human empathy and tolerance?

  • I think it is safe to assume that none of us believed that the eroge ban would go far, well look what happened. The best we can hope now is that this wonderful country doesn’t destroy itself completely in a mess started by foreigners.

    • And that’s why people (including me) are against any kind of censorship.
      Because even if it’s done to prevent the worst of the worst out there.. it will be abused and spread to other unrelated things.

      I’ll tell you now, any ISP installing “CP filters” will soon be filtering out a whole lot more as well.

  • What next? They will ban MILF sex for ‘promoting indecent and demeaning behavior towards housewives’? And then they will ban yuri for being ‘unnatural and demeaning for women’? Dibs for Martian property if they do, women could eat all the Venus property they need.

    Yes, i intentionally left the yaoi because that’s what fangirls like.

  • Anonymous says:

    Unlike the 2D issue which is highly debatable, this can only be good. It will simply lead to the producers to be more astute in ensuring that the girls are at least 18. What stealing ID bullshit? It could be true but it could very well be that they were trying to get out of it by using it as an excuse. I mean how hard is it to check up someone’s identity? Fingerprints and passports are right there to ensure that no mistakes will be committed. The industry is just being a fucking whiny wuss or rather pretending to be so, hoping that they can retain the lack of clear cut standards they have so far manage to get by. Any good looking girl at 19 will still be extremely attractive, they are just being complete drama queens, hoping that the easily roused will form some kind of protest.

  • It’s always annoyed me how minors are viewed as the victim regardless of the circumstances like when a girl took photos of herself naked with her teacher’s cellphone and then called the cops on him. Why can’t the law get these things right?

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh, come on! They’re just children. They don’t know what they’re doing. They’re innocent until they reach the totally non-arbitrary age of 18. Can’t you understand that?!

        • Anonymous says:

          The age (whatever age is set) corresponds with what the majority of parents and society of that region agree is the average age when children become adults and are wise enough to make their own decisions. If it’s set too low for them to feel comfortable about it, then groups of concerned parents get the government to make them higher. It’s almost supposed to be like a failsafe for parent’s who don’t end up raising their kids properly, or like a “just in case”, though more parents rely on it to do their job of making sure their kids do what’s “right” than teaching them not to

          It’s like “disobay me and… you go to hell!”

          just in this case it’s “disobay us, and you disobay society, and you get into a load of shit for it, and you’ll probably also go to hell”

          it SHOULD be “if you do this, these are the pros and cons of what will/could happen after wards, these are the risks and benefits, this is how we’ll feel about it, this is what we recommend, etc. now that we’ve told you we hope you’ll make the right decisions”.

          scaring people into not doing something rarely works, and just more often tends to mess people up or even get them to do the opposite of what you think they should do.

          the funny thing is, adults get in trouble more often for what the kids should be getting into trouble for as a result of this age limit.

          Also, the age of 18, like one of the anons above me said, is probably a result/creation of the school system of today’s society. When a teen gets pregnant or get’s someone pregnant while they’re in school it can have a horrible effect on that teen’s studies, and they’ll be bringing a child into the world without a proper job to raise one with. So, parents don’t want their kids sleeping around, many don’t even want them wasting their time with stuff like dating when they should be concentrating on studying. It’s kind of forcing them to go against their natures, if you ask me. Unfortunately it’s the taboos, forbiddenness, and the word of their “evil” parents that get a lot of teens to want to do it even more. Then they go loose their virginity at an early age and don”t even care to use protection. Parents are afraid to talk to mention anything sexually related to their kids and just stand by as they let the media bombard them with titillating images (that conflict with what they’ve been taught) instead and hope that the school will teach them whatever they need and that the laws will force them to keep out of trouble. Let’s not forget the influence of friends. All that many parents say about sex is refer to sexual things as “dirty”, “naughty”, “bad”, “perverted”, “against religion”, it creates a conflict as they associate these negative things with things that naturally turn out to make them feel good later in life. Eventually most kids just have to look into all this stuff on their own behind their parent’s backs, and the taught of doing something wrong that feels good is exciting to them.

          It’s just pure FAIL on every level, and the blame for all the problems that slip through the cracks of the laws are always put on the wrong things.

        • Anonymous says:

          As I understand it, the 18 years of age thing came from voting/draft-able age (at least in the US). Voting age was originally 21 (like drinking), but lowered in the 70’s because the kids being drafted weren’t allowed to vote. (not sure why the didn’t lower the drinking age with it…) Although I’m not sure when they wrote into law that 18 means you’re an adult or when you can be drafted so it possible that happened before 18 year olds were given the vote.

          However, seeing as this is roughly the age when people finish high school and head off to college or work, it would seem an acceptable age to deem someone an adult and not a minor who is usually under the care of their parent or guardian. Not sure how it works in other countries, but at least to some degree it would seem likely that there is probably some level of consensus between the peoples of most countries.

          But who knows, I’m mostly guessing on the second part.

        • Like stated above, it’s really just an arbitrary age that was picked on without any real reason to at the time aside from it seemed like a reasonable point to call them rational adults at the time, but as we all know, rules are something completely infallible and will never fall behind with the times so why should they ever put any effort into changing things?

      • Anonymous says:

        Unfortunately that’s not true. Being a child does not mean they lack the decision making skills of an adult. And in some cases, a child may even surpass an adult in mental abilities.

    • Anonymous says:

      Finally we’ll have some REAL defense. You don’t mess with the largest pornography industry of the world (and yakuza-dominated) like it was nothing.

      They are our lobbyists, our hope and real answer to the LDP and New Komeito politicians, besides the DP and SDP stances on the issue.

        • Anonymous says:

          “you just can’t stop people from doing what they love”

          that’s quoting something I heard today about the prohibition in the 20s. There’s ALWAYS a work around. In fact, this will only increase the loli population in the world, and maybe more girls will be like that 16yo who stole her sister’s ID because it’ll be more forbidden and taboo than before, thus more appealing.

          Then again, Japan doesn’t seem to have that “fight the power” spirit that America had at various moments in history. They see more like masochists at this point! 😛

        • Anonymous says:

          ever seen saaya irie? I like mature women too, but some teens sure can shine in the boob area.

          wait, does this extent to gravure models as well when they talk about AV? Because it’d make no sense of them to ban something like AV with any hint of underage things (like school uniform) and yet not ban 14 year old girls in bikinis.

          I’m not a loli, but don’t pick on the lolicon, my fellow jukujo fans. In these dire times we must stand together! ~_~

        • Anonymous says:

          Honestly this is not about the loli anymore, this is plain “tought crime” prosecution. This is fasism in it cannonical form and cannot be tolerated.

          If these clear transgressions of personal freedom are accepted I’m afraid Japan will sink into the hole the US is going right know.

          A new dark age awaits.

        • Agreed. Go get ’em, you psychotic maniacs.

          Reminds me of when I found out I was throwing stones in a police riot with the Hell’s Angels on my side *good times* (they were trying to arrest/prevent a pre-scheduled gathering on public forest). Sure we ended up under satellite surveillance the rest of the “camping trip”, but what the hell. It was still fun.

  • Anonymous says:

    Bring on the loli ban, its about time.

    loli material just breed pedophilia. It has no place in society.

    Japan needs to clean up its act, its a disgrace on the world.

    Anyone against the ban on lolis is a pervert/pedophile. You need to find some decent values in life.