Rape Eroge Really Banned
- Categories: Games, News
- Date: Jun 3, 2009 03:27 JST
- Tags: Amazon, BDSM, Censorship, Eroge, Mass Media, Politics, Rape, USA
After the previous confusion, Japan’s leading adult game classification body has bowed to feminist pressure and banned the sale and manufacture of so-called “rape” games.
The “ban”, initially invented by a broadcaster, has now been passed by the EOCS, the major censorship body for eroge in Japan, in the special meeting held to control the damage spreading from the Rapelay media fiasco.
The spineless wretches representing their various companies at the event were apparently resigned to their fate, and supinely opted to pass the ban, presumably in the hopes of averting legislative attention from politicians with nothing better to do in the midst of economic malaise. The meeting itself was an informal gathering, with no voting or otherwise.
Most concern apparently focused on just how far the ban would go (for example, banning BDSM completely as almost all fictional works of such incorporate rape), with some companies understandably concerned over what would happen to their products currently in development. Concerns centred on such crucial issues as whether monsters or tentacles would be problematic.
It is also thought that particular attention will fall on packaging (and titles), with the actual content perhaps not given such scrutiny.
Some discussion actually concerned whether the industry should drop the slightly euphemistic term for its products currently used, “bishoujo games”, in favour of “adult games” or similar, probably because the “beautiful girl game” moniker is inappropriate in the current climate of moral hysteria.
The details of the deliberations are provided by a member of the Abel Group who attended the event.
As previously explained in detail, the ban will only affect members of the EOCS group; this accounts for most companies in the industry, but as ample alternatives to classification at EOCS exist, the real effect may just be to cause a variety of cunning dodges within and without the organisation.
Notably, the EOCS previously banned games with loli or incest content, but this proved totally ineffective (perhaps as designed), whilst allowing the body to present a facade of “responsibility” (if appeasing moralists can be considered such) to those who might otherwise fret.
The current situation looks set to develop along similar lines, as long as certain interfering feminist politicians and international groups are placated into not pursuing more far-reaching legislation.
Were these elements to pursue a full ban in law, it seems unlikely it would end with just games, as clearly adult video and ero-manga would have to be subjected to the same criteria at some point (since the games in question are actually visual novels rather than games per se, and possess about as much interactivity as a book).
This would eventually end up colliding with actual novels if pursued with any consistency, so it seems a major Constitutional issue would then loom, as the Japanese Constitution is fairly protective of free speech. This is probably not the sort of easy victory feminist politicians on a “protect the children” ticket are looking to pursue…
Here is a timeline of events to recap:
An Irish rag on a slow news day picks up the story that importers have been selling Rapelay via Amazon. The theme is that the game encourages rape and is child pornography.
Amazon completely drops the product, including in Japan. Other retailers soon follow suit.
Feminist busybody group “Equality Now”, which organises spam campaigns to keep its members busy without actually having to deal with problems directly, targets the game, accusing it of human rights violations and telling the Japanese government it should be banning this sort of thing, like low crime paradises such as the UK.
The developers tell the foreign feminists to get lost.
Soon after the Rapelay developers cave in and completely remove the game from distribution.
Equality Now’s Japanese lawyer (the group has no presence in Japan) drums up anti-eroge media attention.
A Japanese diet member, an avowed feminist, picks up on the scandal and starts calling for a ban. Objections start with the opposition and minor parties and soon the ruling party jumps onto the bandwagon.
A “study group” is organised to decide how best to ban the games.
Broadcaster TBS falsely reports that the EOCS has banned the games.
The EOCS bans the games.
At no point at any time has any evidence that such games (which amount to illustrated novels) contribute to sexual assault been presented.
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arrggghh!!..my collection of future raep eroge
GONE!!
i just hoping that it wont be gone completely
I wonder if it is the idea that feminist group nowadays get less sex because of the numerous porn on the net. :D or they are trying to make more rapist in order for them to get more votes on elections less male in a community higher chances for a female to get voted because of gender bias (which somehow do happens) :D
in japan its literally happening :D birthrate on the decline more porn etc etc :D
kinda sad that they have nothing much to do besides nag nag nag.... :D
Enculez les féministes!
As what I said before...
RAPISTS! TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!
AND I COME TO SPOIL YOUR DINNER BY KILLING YOU ALL IN HELL SINCE I CAN ACCESS ALL PARTS OF IT! MAGIC IS SURE POWERFUL!
No! You fool! The spartan are dining there too!! If you mess in that restaurant youre pretty much done for.
FOOL SPARTA IS NO WITH HELL! THEY WORK FOR A BROTHER OF GOD!
My understanding of the current situation is basically EOSC saying "Hey, we did what we could in our part. So leave us alone." Whether eroge makers will follow suit really depends on how much of a backbone they have. Admittedly most of the titles with raep themes I played are pretty atrocious. Still, when I think of the next Rance game(in fact I don't know if there is a sequel at this rate) which might not have raep in it, it makes me sad. Maybe it's time to quit eroge altogether...
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
Alas. An unfortunate turn of events indeed. I would appreciate if somebody could list some major rape eroge titles here please.
lesbians
we can only pray :)
Hey now, I'm as lesbian as they come, and I support eroge 100%. Stuff like this pisses me off to no end.
These women are just cranky. Lesbians just wanna have fun and save the world from aliens using lingerie and pillow fights.
well i have to agree with you there. at least as far as my friend is concerned.
Jesus, what's all the fuss about?
Sofurin adds "rape" to it's already long "advisory list".
Eroge companies who rely on rape titles leaves Sofurin and continue buisness as usual.
Possible loss in sales for them will likely be countered by lower saturation since companies who stay in sofurin will make other stuff.
Yea, a few brands came to mind...Black Package, Black Rainbow, Black Cyc, Guilty, Liquid, Speed, Tinkerbell, Waffle, etc. And the list goes on...Hopefully CSA won't bow to this as well.
- Simon Cowell of Eroge
Thank you anon.
I will see into these...
Bishop, Assamblage, Clockup, Interheart dont forget those. Those made some of the finest dark eroge out there.
Those feminists, they did it because no one would rape them due to their ugliness. They simply cant accept the fact that 2D >>>>>>>> feminists, so dont blame them. ^^
How easy it is to "fight" sexual violence by banning japanese games (when there are more rapes in US....) when enveryone knows that there are countries where SLAVES are still been captured/sold/bought/"used",where women can't even choose who to marry with or even who to speak with.....
AND THOSE PERSONS WHO JUST WANT EASY VICTORIES OVER GAMES THAT ARE JUST HERE FOR PHANTASMA WHEN SOMETHING LIKE 1/4 OF WOMEN ARE REALLY SUFFURING???? DAMN THEY WON'T FOOL ME!!!
I play those games, I've never raped anyone, never projected to do do, will definitly never do so....
PS: loads of what is called "classical" literature sometimes discribes rapes.... the most well known are those like the writings "du marquis de sad" or "les liaisons dangereuses" written by Laclos, both are well known as beeing old and respectable novels of french literature....
I wouldn't call de Sade "respectable". More like "infamous". But yeah, the reasoning these organizations use for pushing bans on material they don't like could just as easily be applied to other media, even novels. And since there's no reason to believe that rape games lead the players to rape in real life, they have absolutely no ground to stand on, aside from appealing to most people's shock at such material, even though it's all fiction.
well I meant that as a writer Sade is treated just like others.... of course he is infamous ^^ .
but still he is a genious :D
anyone ever about Sade Masoch? the second part of S/M Sade/Masoch. That side actually tends to enjoy such things done to there person.
Of course, this just means they'll find a way of cencorship that will be even more inappropriate than the thing being cencored.
Damn ,this is sad. Though article seems to imply the possibility of cunning dodges, but I am keeping my hopes rock bottom .*sigh* Time to stock up while I still can.
Can I point out that the hyperventilating alarmism in this article is totally unnecessary? The EOCS is an entirely voluntary classification. It is not legally required for a game to be sold and many alternate organizations exist. This "ban" is ultimately a token gesture. Most of the hardcore rape sim makers aren't even classified under EOCS.
"hyperventilating alarmism"
A lot of the articles on this site are like that, I'm sure you've noticed.
As long as a ban isn't imposed by law, it seems there's nothing to worry about.
*headdesk*
Well, let's watch the rape rate in Japan rise like dough in an oven...
This is becoming a bigger and bigger issue now. Why couldn't they just let it go. More generic websites (i.e. sites that wouldn't even notice this issue) are now picking this up. Is this going to be a slippery slope to screw us all?
Ehhhhhh...anon here, I posted earlier about how this didnt seem credible to me. It still doesnt, even after Michio pointed out the (one?) link that seems to go to a personal blogger/abel member, and yet still doesnt seem credible, even after reading.
Im left with a sort of "I dont really believe it" but I can google for more info later I suppose.
Oh btw, not condoning rape. Well, its like - the internet is decensitized to it for the most part anyhow, this is the wrong place to be a moral fag I think. Well, thats what Im learning anyhow.
Aw, come on. Moralfag is a subjective term; I'm a moralfag because I think that rape-games are wrong, shouldn't be condoned or endorsed, and are detrimental to proper empathetic development. They're moralfags because they believe in the ultimate pursuit of free expression, to which attempts at limiting are not only fruitless but are and should be abhorred and made light of as the thought processes of bigots and morons.
Whatever type of moralfag you are, if you can't fag here, where can you fag?
Don't let a raincloud troll discourage you from letting your view out. The internet is only truly desensitized if you stop making an effort to sensitize it.
Please, if you so choose, make that effort ;)
I am thinking of joining equality now just to rise among their ranks and destroy them from within....
They picked the wrong community to mess with.
http://xkcd.com/591/
Lesson: There are more real people than internet people. Sadly for you.
All I have to say is...
No ban on twilight? Isn't this a bestseller that includes abuse to women AND children? just throwing it out there.
lol i agree ;____; Twilight it worse because it's actually making an impact on the minds of many young teenage girls. not only do they accept the type of relationships portrayed as ok, now they're LONGING for them. I predict many teen girls tolerating abusive, controlling boyfriends just because meyer told them it was romantic and perfect.
Rape-simulation games aren't really mainstream.
When women fantasize about abuse, it's "romantic", "liberating", and "just a fantasy".
When men fantasize about abuse, it's "disgusting", "oppressive", and "contributes to inequality".
F*cking double standards.
i really wish at this point of time...
every rapist around the world will start drop a note after they finished doing it on their victim
"Give me back my Rape game!!!"
"I ain't gonna rape you if only i had a game to play with"
somewhere along those line...sooner or later...it will start give attention to the media that apparently, day by day, rape cased happened because the perpetrator cannot find a way to jackoff unless he play rape video game
then we will suport the feminist group to allow rape game to save women
Yes, because suddenly all men are rapists at heart.
I'm sure if a rapist wanted to rape, he wouldn't have bothered with a video game in the first place. :/
True if a person is going to do something what's to keep them from doing it to begin with. they tend to prefer the real of over the fantasy. my ex- studies this mentality in Serial Criminal Minds. So similar to the music causing the young to commit crime or suicide. even a U.S. Court threw that one out.
I pray to god you're joking or making some sort of sick, disillusioned point.
If not, get psychiatric help.
"Notably, the EOCS previously banned games with loli or incest content, but this proved totally ineffective (perhaps as designed), whilst allowing the body to present a facade of “responsibility” (if appeasing moralists can be considered such) to those who might otherwise fret."
Maybe rape-eroges' fate will be the same?
I don't know if in Japan the BDSM fandom is as strong as the loli and incest ones, so I can't say if it will be the same, but if they banned games like that in the past to no avail, then maybe this isn't going to have much results.
"The current situation looks set to develop along similar lines, as long as certain interfering feminist politicians and international groups are placated into not pursuing more far-reaching legislation."
Which is why I think that the EOCS "banned" these games, to "calm" the feminists and let the flames vanish.
Let's see if this really will help to decrease the already low rape rate in Japan. o.o
Then don't sell them to the public though normal channels and by pass the moronic ban...I swear this will not end well...
It takes one bloody weaboo to put it up on Amazon.
No wonder the Bush Administration remained to ruin 4 more good years.
So much for japan being the a country where perversion of any form is tolerated as long as it's 2d. Truth be told, this feminist bullshit is sort of getting out of hands. Apparently, they want everyone to think their way, and they'll automatically condemn you if you don't, regardless of your innocence (Most haven't done jackshit outside the realm of fantasy).
That said, it's almost as though feminists think they're doing the world a favor by depriving sexual deviants of their source of release. This might help the younger generation, or it might not. The effects of a game are about as adverse as a video, so who's to say that forcing sex is any less tolerable than murder? I don't see anybody going apeshit over murder mysteries, or guro. Are all rape hentais/manga/fiction going to be banned next?
Or doing a favor to all women in the world for that manner.
Really now, it's like saying all other women are that helpless. Sheesh.
Ignoring the war of whether rape games are good or bad for society, I think the one thing we can all agree on, is that those feminists should go just in the Nile, or Hudson Bay, or somewhere dangerous... like, seriously....
faith in humanity ... LOST
no raep eroge means ....real raep will emerge from their mind ..and the percentage for real raep will be getting higher and higher everday..
good job feminist!
HAhahahahhaahahahahaha I don't believe rape games would ever be fully banned. Those crazy developers would find a way!!!!!! Remember, most of Japan's income comes from games, anime and manga!!!
If something or someone ever stopped the imagination goldmine from flowing...The Japanese economy would collapse!!!
WRONG! USA FUNDS JAPAN MORE THAN YOU THINK!
Seriously, if rape eroges are really banned, wouldn't people retaliate and try to torrent as many as they can find?
they're skewed and twisted mentality says it happens "BECAUSE OF" all the rape eroge. so if they clean up and ban them all suddenly the world will be a better place. go figure.