Rape Eroge Banned

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In responses to the recent media hysteria over “rape simulator” adult games, the main industry and ratings body in Japan has opted to completely ban the making and sale of titles featuring rape and sexual violence.

Estimates are that games affected could be “10-20%” of the market, meaning 20% of eroge could end up being banned, with themes such as BDSM and similar becoming completely off bounds.

The situation is not however as simple as it appears at first glance to the mass media, though perhaps this is intended.

The organisation issuing the ban, the “Ethics Organization of Computer Software” (EOCS, or Sofurin in Japanese), is the eroge industry’s largest classification body, with some 200 member companies, and is responsible for the ratings used on visual novels.

The character of the EOCS is demonstrated by the fact that it banned loli eroge a decade ago, which led to a complex and typically Japanese situation in which loli games continued to be released, but with references to ages and school years removed, similar to how brothels are technically illegal in Japan but in fact operate openly. A similar situation may be in the making for “rape” eroge.

However, EOCS membership is “voluntary” and it is a “self regulating” body rather than one with any particular legal powers beyond expelling members and refusing classification; there is a competing ratings body, the “Contents Soft Association“, which is much less stringent in its standards, largely allowing loli games, and it has no regulations against violence. Its membership will likely be getting a boost unless it follows suit.

This is not to say that the organisations are toothless and companies are free to do as they will; ratings are generally needed for sale, and the organisations themselves have connections to the relevant government ministries, effectively having government charters, which can of course be revoked if they displease the ministry.

Thus, they are in the power of the government to an uncertain extent, and their main purpose is to prevent disturbances to sales rather than to defend the free speech of members.

The move likely comes in response to recent calls by both feminist politicians (in response to criticism an American feminist group), both opposition (DPJ) and government (LDP), to ban the games lest they turn Japan into a nation of wicked child rapists like the USA or Canada, which incidentally strongly pursue laws against drawn and game pornography, whilst promoting the freedom of publishers to make games involving extreme violence.

Since the measures are likely easily circumventable, it appears the response may simply be a sop to politicians to show the industry as being responsible and is self-regulating, thus obviating the need for legislation. The worst case may involve publishing digitally or along the same lines as the entirely unregulated doujin soft market.

However, the spineless response so typical of such companies in Japan will do little to actually tackle the allegations levelled against it, and only serves to highlight how temptingly weak a target the industry makes to pro-censorship groups.

If anything, failing to object to demands for censorship serves as a tacit acknowledgement that there is something reprehensible about the games.

For an industry entirely dependent on freedom of expression to establish the precedent that it will roll over in the face of political demands (ones originating from overseas at that), and admit that its products are somehow tied to criminal behaviour, seems a remarkably risky thing to do; it may be in a difficult position to resist from should further demands for censorship be made of it…


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    Comment by zanza_kuro
    18:00 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    agree-yes

    happy-fvcking no.i hate it but i can't help to agree with the decision

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:36 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Apparently none of this is true.

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    Comment by Artefact

    It is all true apart from the "banned" in fact being "considering banning"; expect confirmation soon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:26 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ACSsUhFk7I

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:43 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    God damnit who let them out of the kitchen?

    But on a more serious note; although the games mentioned don't suit my tastes the core issue here is that the radicals are destroying a whole industry one bit at a time.
    I can foresee normal porn being banned and then fapping in your own home illegal too.

    Comment by SilverTide
    16:57 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hahaha! You know what the #1 sexual fantasy women have is? Poll after poll has shown that it's none other than...*drumroll*... RAPE!

    I say we ban all romance novels involved with women having sex without consent. Yes, there are a significant number of them out there.

    Comment by Anonymous

    Show me proof that the #1 sexual fantasy of women is rape.

    I -SEVEERELY- doubt that women would think something like rape was sexy, unless they're stupid whores.

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    Comment by Shuu
    04:19 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    SilverTide has a point. All you need as girl to have rape fantasies is a healthy interest in BDSM (that does not imply all girls who are into BDSM have them). Though the magazines and websites that do such polls are by no means representative of the global female population, as many women who meet the above criterion frequent them, and others not so much.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:16 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hope this doesn't awaken all those sleeping tentacle monsters in japan...

    But seriously, I hope this ends up more of a publicity stunt rather than real censorship. Sexual violence being banned?
    *looks at games with sexual violence*
    yume miru *poof*
    tsukihime *poof*
    X-Change games *poof*
    Utawarerumono *poof* (we will save you from raep Hakuoro! By banning you!)
    Raidy *poof*
    Critical Point *poof*
    Why not go to extremes?
    Ever17 *poof* (This way even though it didn't CG anything, Takashi will be safe *BAN*)

    I mean if it was just games focused on mindless rape, like Rapelay... OK I get it. But, unless they have a specific target in mind, the fires of censorship have the potential to burn out of control...
    ...and btw it would be nice if feminist groups in the US would work on the problems at home first. [Hearing about rape in the news all too often (happening to REAL people; and somehow for some reason I bet the criminals I see on the news don't know jack about these games)]

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:18 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Show your support > http://eroge.com/

    Comment by plmko
    19:07 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Huh? wasn't the ban a total fabrication by the media, apparently nothing is going to happen on June 4th (when the ban is suppose to happen) but instead a meeting to discuss one will.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:33 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You pathetic anti-feminists actually believe that people that read rape won't go out and rape people?

    If anything, it encourages it because of how helpless and sexy the women look during rape.

    Comment by Anony
    20:49 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just like all the feminist tv shows where they show the man always the antagonist and raping girl cases. In your logic the show that was showing what goes on will make more in real life antagonist rapers. I stop watching tv a long time ago I wonder why.

    Comment by G4tsu
    23:51 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I will never lay a finger on a woman (except a woman who can defend herself and who attack me first of course).
    But, when I read this, I think I wouldn't say no to rape one feminist if it wasn't illegal of course...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:20 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You'd rape any woman, feminist or not?

    You're not a man.

    Comment by Canadamann
    02:01 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Your logic is just like "Simpson series contain world destruction themes, so it turns audience to more dictators"

    What shitty logic is this?!

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:29 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    wonder how long it will take for there to be "maleism" movements to rise?

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    09:03 31/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Never. "Maleists" go to jail (rember: everything is illegal, especially anything that is advantagious to men but does not result in extra power for women). Feminists get funded.

    Anti-feminism/masculinism/whatever could only win if men had no regard for their own lives and were willing to wage war against those who jail or execute their fellow men who take young wives etc.

    Men will never be willing to fight. Ever. Except in the service of women's liberty.

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    Comment by Shuu
    12:08 31/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL Mikee, you and me are probably the only idiots still coming back to this thread :p

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:16 04/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Men don't diserve that. Women have been beat down for years. We diserve every chance we get.

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    Comment by Shuu
    04:27 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We have that already. It's called MikeeUSA.

    Comment by Hexilion
    22:44 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We should ban feminist groups instead.

    If they don't like what they see or hear about, they should ignore it and shut the fuck up.

    All who agree say: Aye

    Comment by Canadamann
    01:44 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Banning an so-called ideology is just suppressing FREEDOM OF SPEECH.
    It is like "I don't like your idea, so I kill you to get rid of you"
    This does not solve the problem.

    What should be done is let FEMINISTS KNOW WHAT IS LOGICAL.

    Comment by Gundai
    04:59 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hexilion i agree with you

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    Comment by shalala
    21:15 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Might as well ban alll eroge games or make a law saying no one is allowed to make pr0n

    Comment by Zero
    20:14 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My Theory is that this Feminist Group (All Americans from what I know) is backed-up by their country.

    Because think about it. Most people (not all) from all over the world because of the influence of Anime by Japan.

    Watches or Play Games Related to Anime.
    Then here's the catch !

    Anime Not Porn/Porn = Videos/Manga/Games/Merchandise is STRONGER in SALES than those of

    American PORN (WEAK Shits).

    Ex. TAKAMURA MAMORU VS BRYAN HAWK.

    TAKAMURA KILL BRYAN HAWK (PERVERTED ARROGANT FAGG).

    Comment by Anony
    19:20 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    10-20% Ban I think more like 99.99% of all h-games. Good thing we still have ultra violent games. Wonder why they don't ban that too. Maybe that will kill the gaming industry and cause other things. I feel like homer.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yGJGTjV2WE&feature=related [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yGJGTjV2WE&feature=related]

    Urge to kill raising.. raising.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:12 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    excuse for the really long comment but...

    wow, it's almost like they're close to saying this line to all 2D fans:
    "give them nothing, take from them EVERYTHING!!!"

    but seriously, if they ban another genre of anime/manga/games, no matter what type it is...
    i personally think that it's probably their step towards banning everything 2D, everything fictional. telling everyone that only reality matters, nothing more.

    crime rates? morality? who knows? people could just be using them as base so they could tell everyone that they're right and saying that way too many people don't know what's wrong and what's right.... "could be".

    i don't really know but... did the existence of fictional things made that of a huge difference in people's morality than of before comics or cartoons or movies were ever invented?

    but how did that effect the economy? technological ideas based on those with great mind's imagination which was probably stolen from another person's fictional story? what would the world be if they "did" ban everything 2d? ...may be a little of topic

    this too might be a little off topic but, hmm...

    ban rape genre - to prevent people from thinking that there's something fun about raping someone.

    ban loli/shota genre - because it involves children and something immoral happening to them. and they don't want those things to happen to real children

    ban crime/murder/violence genre - cause it involves killing people, stealing cars, stealing money, beating up the enemy until their health bar is empty.

    ban horror/suspense genre - causes people to build mass murdering bioweapons, zombies and virus. or notify the people that they need a hockey mask and what type of weapon they'll need to use if they want to kill somebody or what kind of weapon is most affective against zombies.

    ban genre involving history or wars - cause they hurt the feelings of the old people or veterans of the opposite sides or teaches people about what "not" really happened and believe them as fact.

    ban sports genre - cause instead of playing the real sports... they start to become lazy. they want people to become real pros of the NBA, NFL, MLB, or any group or individual sports. they want them to become real MMA, wrestling or boxing champions or professional race car drivers no matter how much of handicapped person or how old he is. they want them to experience crashing your car going 300 mph or real face-plant to the concrete because you got off balanced while riding your bike or skate board, crashing head-on to a tree or race against avalanche or fall off a thousand ft. cliff on their ski or snowboard,the pain and pleasure of beating your opponent down to the ground or their own faces catching all the punches and kicks from the enemy.

    ban fantasy genre - they cause people to believe that elves or super powers gained from accidents or special training are real.

    ban sci-fi genre - they don't want people to believe that living in space, fighting aliens, deflecting laser beams with your lightsaber or destroying enemy's deathstar with your X-wing fighter is a possibility.

    ban genre involving machines/robots(all sizes) - cause someone might really build mechs of mass destruction and destroy buildings, historical landmarks, dominate the world through skynet causing the extinction of all humanity by raping them then killing them.

    if they forbid all those fictional things from being drawn, or made into a movie or a tv show, it's like they're saying "our economy is in the 'we're okay with it' level now, so we don't need you anymore, 2D. back to reality now thanks, bye!"

    i guess they really fear people having negative or evil thoughts or fear of potential criminals from being born that much... huh? they don't want anymore cases of someone doing something to somebody because his 2D stuffs were taken away from him.
    and they also don't these 2D's to add up to those illegal trading and smuggling by those unknown underground organizations... drugs, firearms, people/slaves? what's next? eroge?

    people and government really does fear each other, government fear of people's possible disobedience, people's fear of being punished by the government... but who has more power and authority?

    well all i can personally say is that a lot of people is just lazy.
    authorities thinking that it's a bother to find approach those criminals when something bad happens so they'll just be more strict with the rules.
    and people thinking that it's a bother to struggle against authority even if they know that they are being to strict with the rules.
    but above all... i'm still siding with the people who hate these strict rules. anonymous out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:15 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and again... sorry.. the comment was extremely long

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:43 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    and oh btw... please don't mind me or my comment too much cause i really suck at arguments, really... just being a little sarcastic with the ban other genre stuff.

    think of me as one of those paranoid guys screaming "armageddon is coming!" or thinking sooner or later aliens will invade us and take over the world.

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    08:59 31/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Waffle?

    I have always maintained that I am for what is most advantagious for Men.

    I am not an advocate for equality and thus could not "waffle" in an argument about such: I would not be in such an argument to begin with.

    Idiot.

    Death To women's Rights.
    Viva Men's Liberties.
    --MikeeUSA--

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:33 31/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Feminazism is, Feminism isn't.

    Feminists are perfectly happy with equality between the genders, setting aside biological differences.

    So a Feminist would say: A man and a woman do the same job, work the same hours, perform the same amount of work, and both have the same experience, degrees, time with the company = then they both should have equal pay.

    A Feminazi would say: Women are discriminated against and should therefore have a higher pay than the men who are oppressing her.

    They're like the inverse version of MikeUSA. All they want is just to prey on others, weaker than themselves. When asked to confront those stronger than themselves they start to waffle and come up with all sorts of excuses.

    And yeah, Otaku are too lazy to fight for their rights, most people are. In the end that tends to lead to claims like: Ich habe es nicht gewust. Which is a big load of crock, because anyone with half a brain could figure out what was happening.

    As for fighting for what you believe in, we've entered an age, where only a select few will do so. The rest just shows apathy towards it all. Which is why I say, if 2012 does equal the end of the world, then let it come quickly. Least then I won't have to put up with crud like this no more, and I can finally find some rest.

    Comment by Canadamann
    02:05 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I dont see your point.

    Would you please summarize when you make a comment?

    The structure of this website makes reading very uncomfortable. It simply hurt user's eyes.

    Hence you should know "Simple strong arguments" are better than long essays.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:05 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Speak for yourself Canadamann.

    He was perfectly clear to me, but to help you out, I'll give you the cliff note version.

    - Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile.
    - Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.
    - Prohibition is the new Black.
    - And people hate it, but are too lazy to do anything about it.

    As someone who knows how governments work. Blame the politicians, they're the ones dreaming up the policy. It's the task of the civil servant to try and make said policy into reality, even though they on more than one occasion have known that said politician should lay off the dope that they're using, or at least share it, because their ideas are ludicrous and have no relation what so ever with what's occurring in reality.

    "Being welcomed and showered with flowers" anyone? More like welcomed and showered with bullets and bomb fragments.

    Comment by CanadaMann
    04:17 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean, feminism is based on hatred?
    And otaku are too lazy to fight for their rights?
    (I mean, in this case of Otaku VS Feminist)

    There are many people in the past, fighting for what they consider to be right, and have lost their lives.
    The society is always full of injustice, full of nonsense, but if you don't fight, your sons and grandchildren a worse society.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:10 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't think that this will be as bad as some people think. I think that the industry is basically dealing with this the way an adult would deal with an irritating kid: smile at them, pretend that you care about whatever it is that they're screaming about, then get back to what you were doing after they go away. Think of it a drug dealer would: if someone doesn't want you selling on a corner, just go find another one. The fiends will follow. Sure there may be a temporary downturn, but in the end things will go back to normal in a little while and in the meantime it could maybe even cause a spur to creativity to work under a restriction.

    Comment by Jeb
    19:58 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do some research. THERE IS NO BAN.

    It turns out the ban is completely fictional, an invention of TBS.

    http://zepy.momotato.com/2009/05/28/rape-games-not-really-banned-and-i-hate-tbs/

    Comment by CanadaMann
    04:23 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You people are optimistic.
    You should indeed know that there is discrimination against eroge at all time in japan.
    No matter the news is true or not, you should start thinking how to not let crazy feminists proceed their evil plan.

    If you continue to be like this, one day you will suddenly see a news topic "Eroge totally banned in Japan", without knowing why this happened.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:57 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My two cents. Personally I don't believe this will have tremendous effects on how the eroge industry operates as it is. Again these are really conjectures. Game makers are advised to follow them but not mandated. If this gets signed into a law then that's a different stories(which I doubt would happen considering the annual sales of eroge probably measure up to a few percent of their GDP). Even if a ban does occur, the doujin market will come quickly to fill in the gap. While I am very disappointed in their decision, I am not too worried about the situations right now.

    - Simon Cowell of Eroge

    Comment by Mitsuo Kubo
    14:46 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't play games with rape in them, but this still upsets me. I can just see these people pushing towards banning many other games than just those involving rape now, and the fact that this has worked out for them will just egg them on in said-future...

    Comment by elc
    14:29 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    in all seriousness the feminist groups are made of retards, they have no idea what to prioritize, instead of questioning and scrutinizing their own culture for being sexist, they pull a scapegoat and blame japan... in all seriousness, they should go enslave themselves already... since they are on the path of destruction anyways...

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    Comment by CanadaMann
    15:08 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    >they are on the path of destruction anyways
    This is like "US is declining so we should ignore it"
    And really it is just letting your guard off.

    How can you possibly decide when you have not seen the true end of your enemy?
    Continue fighting should be the best way, otherwise you may get seriously damaged(i.e. all eroge and eromanga die)

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    Comment by asianprostitute1500
    14:19 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Japan banning......RAEP GAMES!? I can't help but feel some sort of horrible disturbance in the force has just occured.

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    Comment by Shuu
    04:10 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "As if millions of otaku suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced..."

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:26 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    But if Japan won't support Raep games, who the fuck will? And what's next to go? O_O

    Since they got this far, I seriously doubt we won't be hearing about a loli ban soon. "Pedophiles" are like the new satanic worshipers of the world or something.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:27 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    by that I mean that's how they're views by society. and by "pedophiles" I meant what society calls lolicon.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:55 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if loli is banned i swear im gonna rape a bunch of fat,ugly,virgin and over 40 yo ladies!!!!!

    Comment by TEARSOFBLOOOOOOOOOD
    15:23 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What a futile move. Do they honestly believe they're going to stop such HORRIBLY MORALLY DEPRAVED with something as pathetic as this? When humans want porn, they WILL find ways to get it. All they're going to do is increase the demand for such things in the underground, possibly making it even more lucrative for those who supply such material. Not to mention what Lunar and Atma have said, with new technology becoming easier to use, people will just make this shit on their own. When they see how shortsighted and worthless this is, I will laugh and use their tears as a delicious lubricant while I fap to my copy of Rapelay(even though I'm not even into it).

    Comment by EroorEGozooo
    15:49 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hey. Let me have some of those tears too, I just finish installing Rapelay on my pc.

    Comment by C9
    15:15 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hahah i wonder what's going to happen 80% of the japanese men who has rape fetish :D

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:19 29/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    castration and collective sacrifices to their loli gods?










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