80% of Japanese Women: Marrying Poor Men “Unthinkable”

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A recent survey has highlighted the overwhelming importance Japanese women place on the income of their prospective husbands, with 50% ruling out the prospect of marriage to a man with a lower income than themselves entirely as “unthinkable”, and a further 30% qualifying this to “if it looks as if he’ll earn more in future, it’s OK.”

The materialistic concerns of the female survey respondents are unabashed:

“I don’t think love can arise in a situation like that… Money is necessary to an extent.”

However, men too have similar, though less pronounced, reservations about women who are higher earners: 50% are happy with a wife who “earns much more” than them, but 20% can only take a lady earning “a little higher” than their own salaries. The rest presumably need a financially inferior partner.

You can read more about what incomes are acceptable in the previous survey coverage

Via J-Cast.

All this has some interesting wider implications. If women in Japan are to enjoy  equal career opportunities and income to their male counterparts, as many reasonably feel entitled to, logically they are going to have difficulty finding partners with higher incomes than themselves, and so their marriage prospects do not seem favourable.

The salary expectations (for their husband/income source) of Japanese women appear to be one of the unacknowledged factors contributing to the demographic changes so marked in Japan…


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    Comment by Mister 庭
    01:53 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Pah, ridiculous!
    LOVE GOES OVER MONEY!! >:OO

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    Comment by Narcissist
    04:09 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What if I love money then?

    Comment by AnonY
    04:49 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then why don't you marry it! ;_;

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:21 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    or use it to buy a flesh light.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:53 18/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    XDDDDDDD

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:04 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its hard to love money because it doesnt really love you back. Unless these cuts on my dick is what love is.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:57 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL THAT MADE ME LAUGH SO HARD

    Comment by Chris
    18:58 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Anonymous, that was pretty hilarious. Have to admit

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    Comment by ninjabastard
    15:16 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Come on down to LA. Golddigers are always welcome.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:04 24/01/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    thats all LA has got anyway

    Comment by SaruDa
    23:19 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Shut up, everyone knows your true love is trolling.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:15 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    trolling ?
    are you sure you are trolling enough ?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:26 21/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Love is not something singular that can only be applied to a single object, idea, thought, person or whatnot.

    You can love money arduously, but still be able to love another, so long as you do not close your heart off to it.

    Polyamory exists, not to be confused by simple wanton lust.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:15 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    i don't care.

    it's just a word. " Love " is just a word .

    Nobody loves me and
    i'm not loving a girl.

    So who cares.

    Wake up, it's a empty/void
    word .

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    Comment by Musashi75
    04:59 29/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    i love both. but you know whats worth the world? health and good spirits ^^

    Comment by Chris
    19:04 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry to say Mister 庭, but "love" is nothing but women's need for a man who's more physically / financially / socially more powerful then them.

    Everything else is just romanticizations created from literature. I mean, the whole basis of moe is that the girl in question displays traits that cause a guy to want to protect her. Women marry up, men marry down. It's how the world works :v

    Comment by anonymous
    15:42 02/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    well, how about I throw a wrench there into your clockwork description of how the world works and tell you that I think moe sucks and that I'm not interested in a woman that I need to always treat like a child?

    And I'm always thinking romantically. It's not just love story crap. For instance, I like to look at things in every day life poetically. The moon is like a giant pearl in the night, the grass likes to reach out towards the sky, I like to sit in the dark at night sometimes or with just nothing more than candle light, etc. Romanticism isn't just doing things with a loved one like candle light dinners and love letters. But I guess it's true that people that think like me are a minority in the world, but we do exist.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:43 19/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You are lame.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:36 12/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I feel bad for anyone who thinks its lame as their lives must be very 1 dimensional and unfulfilled...

    Comment by Daoist Sage
    07:29 28/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with the sentiment that such a materialistic approach is one-dimensional to say the least...

    ...but unfortunately, it is that quality of thought at which most people are, and remain stuck in. There are a few ways to go about handling it. First though, have the wisdom to look at where that level of values get both women, and the men catering to it. What fidelity (if you care for that sort of thing)? What loyalty? What genuine caring? The kind of relationships that typically result from pursuing such a shallow level of values is typically very low.

    So... one approach, if you don't want that for yourself, is to let the fools have it! Look for someone with similar values. You're likely to search for a while and go without in the meantime, but enlightenment and refinement of philosophy takes work. People aren't usually fond of work. Them's the breaks.

    Probably the most skillful means of dealing with it would be to learn to work with, and treat people within the level they are at. So, if girls value money, work, etc. over everything else, meet them on that level (assuming you can get those things), but treat them like the whore they are. They're getting what they asked for, and so are you.
    Just don't pour all your feelings and effort into them unless they are deserving. That's a hard lesson and harder still to learn to practice, but simple to understand.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:51 20/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everyone thinks money is important first. You cant live without it today, but many wake up and find money alone brings no happiness.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:54 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    oh no not this again

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:21 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They say love hurts.
    So yes, I'd say that's love.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:57 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I should better start saving money if I want a wife then...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:11 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    IF you want a japanese wife, according to this article.

    Just look for a lady who will stick with you even when you screw up, might be better in the long run.

    Comment by anonymous 2
    02:55 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well there are cheaper 2D versions out there, LOL.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:02 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I hear the inflatable types aren't as discriminating =P

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:21 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    But even those ones cost money....

    Comment by Lost
    05:36 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    only a one time fee thou

    Comment by R
    06:10 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    But they'll cost you money just ONCE.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:24 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    but they don't eat, cheat, nor bitch. sounds like a great deal.

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    Comment by Berserkhobo
    07:53 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL as much as it pains me to agree anonymous is right to a certain degree.

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    Comment by fatimmortal
    07:57 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have a better idea.

    Buy one of those silicon love dolls by 4woods for about 700000 yen each. Or maybe even more.

    Those are pretty customisable to an extend and they look pretty damn realistic compared to a blown up doll.

    Comment by halotoo
    14:03 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah they don't eat or bitch and they never complain when your friend have his way with it and all you have to do to remove the stain is to "clean her up"

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:39 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    used goods Nagi?

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    Comment by Mimi
    06:57 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOL why am i not surprised to hear this response.

    Comment by Chris
    19:06 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's a logical conclusion, so of course it's not surprising.

    Women like men with money -> I need women ergo, I need money

    Comment by Daoist Sage
    07:38 28/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Now I ain't sayin' she a golddigger, B\ut she ain't messin' wit' no broke n****s"

    ^.^

    Really though, as I was saying above, just get some money and meet 'em on that level.

    If you're looking for love, then you have to look elsewhere... but otherwise, you aren't being asked to love them, care about them, or do anything else, really. Just have money, a car, a job.

    You get to have sex with them and otherwise treat them like dirt until either you run out of money to waste on them, or they get smarter. ^.^

    They don't get it both ways. Learn to look for and love someone with a better values, or be passed around like a whore until they're used up and in their mid-thirties or married to an asswhole they're unhappy with. That's where you come along and get them to cheat on said husband with you. ^.^

    Have no sympathy for the sobbing moron of a woman (on this level we're discussing) complaining about being two or three-timed, treated like dirt, caught the clap so many times her nickname should be applause... ^_^

    Comment by Minnaraken
    12:19 01/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Daoist Sage...all i can do is bow to your wisdom and words.
    I think all you are saying is true...even though it's not something easy to accept.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:19 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    look for Love ?

    it's a freaking game !

    how freaking boring.

    i'm too lazy to do that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:23 17/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree to some of the comments like "they don't eat, cheat, nor bitch. sounds like a great deal". But if you do those things. You'll get stuck on these pornographic fantasies. Find the right girl but be careful.. There are many bitch out there who will promise you something like "I wont leave you, I promise" or "I want to be your last girl" etc but in the end she'll just leave you, find another guy to have sex with(and will use that words/promises again).

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:18 20/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    the right girl ?

    who the hell you think to be ??!?!?

    LoL at you .

    the right girl.

    LoL.
    we have another Misandry Woman here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:10 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Women don't want poor men and men don't want women who are less than perfect physically. So?

    Comment by sleepy
    02:32 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Makes us even then?

    People are asking for too much sometimes, and they don't ever appreciate what they already have.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:27 20/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So then you like greasy fat women whom are acne ridden and have the teeth resembling a saber tooth tiger or a welfare recipient male?

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    Comment by basilio
    05:25 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, the only ones getting married are rich (and most likely) old men and young, beautiful women.

    Seeing that the rich men are usually old, and the beautiful women are usually young.

    Comment by Claude
    09:12 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I loled hard at that comment!

    Guys, guys! Don't you think it'll be great to be rich/financially stable, especially in these trying times? I mean, I know I might be crawing back at the cost of many others in the society, but, philosophically speaking and in general, shouldn't being financially stable be a good thing?

    And then you people are saying its like a bad thing... I can completely understand why a girl would want a richer or financially capable husband.

    Imagine you're poor. Imagine having to worry about public utility bills everyday...that child's milk powder...

    Too bad this world revolves around money. To support a family and provide good life to your loved ones, you NEED money.

    Comment by anonymous
    12:12 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No one's saying being financially stable is a BAD thing. This is about marrying a person being "unthinkable" just because that person is poor. It's discrimination! That means these women would put money before anything else when it comes to a relationship, including putting money before love. What if you had to choose between someone who loves you, and you love, but has no money, and someone who does have money but doesn't really love you, or you don't really love? In the end, will money prove to bring you more happiness in life than love would?

    It's more reasonable to say that it's PREFERABLE that the person you marry ends up being loving as well as financially stable, but who's to say how things will turn out? You may very well end up in a position where you have to choose between the two, and these women say they'd side with the wealthier one? lol. Worse than that, these women probably flock to places where richer men hang out, causing an imbalance where less wealthier men are left in the dust as they're not even given a chance.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:15 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^ Listen to this Anon, people.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:34 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of course it would be wonderful to marry someone you truly love, but face it these days who really does. There is three reasons why people get married. 1. unplanned pregnancies. 2. health benefits. and 3. You realized you're not getting any younger and the well is starting to dry up. Fortunately for me, my wife and I have been dating since we were 11. She went on to be a RN and I became a Systems Integrator. Our combined income is more than enough for the two of us plus a baby girl on the way. But my situation is just part of that small percentage of fairy tale/corey and topanga/lovey dovey bullshit you see on television everyday. Hopefully you all will be just as fortunate.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:42 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You are forgetting Tax reduction.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:41 06/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    very insightful comments that I completely agree with from the anon's above

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    Comment by KajunBowser
    09:22 01/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sorry, I simply don't believe in that logic. The survey is flawed anyway b/c they apparently got a hold of mostly "gold-diggers" to give their borrowed 2 cents in this. It didn't help matters that I thought of Kanye's song when I saw the title. It's official: the world's full of "gold-diggers" and Japan has seen an influx of them.









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