Jackie Chan: “Taiwan & Hong Kong are Too Free”

not a province of china

Yes province of China.

You can believe what you want, we will believe what we want.

if china actually believes that Taiwan is part of china, I wonder why they never helped out in any natural disaster in Taiwan.. 921 earthquake, typhoons, etc

Taiwan will always be an independent nation, its the Peoples Republic of China that is the infidels who dared seperate from the great nationalistic government to take up disgusting communism.

Ahhh, so true.

Taiwan won't be Mainland China's until China buys the island. Sad thing is the Taiwan gov't probably would sell it to them.

Chinese people have no right to live anyways.

hehe, so this is the humen right you are talking about?

You said: they never helped out in any natural disaster in Taiwan.
well, that means some kind of information blockade happened in your country too... The mainland government did have some actions to help taiwan out, not only from natural disasters, but also from economic crisis or something else.
But in some case, the leader of taiwan denied the help of mainland, what a multi-party system.

Well as a chinese not from either places, me and most of the people where I live still see Taiwan as Taiwan and China as China. okay that is kind of out of topic but seriously if mr anon mentioned that China had helped Taiwan before, I do ask for some related articles or perhaps evidence to support your opinion?

China can take Taiwan after getting past the the USN CSG.

Good luck with that.

Too bad it's not up to you to decide.

there's two Chinas: the People's Republic and the Republic, ok? reunification over my dead body.

Thats the good part about reality, retards don't get to press the "do not press button", most of the time at least... with one or two occasions when the majority of the nation goes retarded...(e.g. Bush)

Yeah it's funny that the immigration officer at Taipei Airport refused my entry to 'the province' on the ground that my visa issued by the Chinese Government (the one that hold a seat in the UN security Council) is 'nonsense'. I argued with him that Taiwan is part of China, and the legitimate Chinese Govt. gives me a visa to visit China, and I was sent back on the plane......

QQ
get a real visa and travel with 14 other people

LOL @ "real visa"

True though; if you have the proper visa, there's no reason for them to reject you. I mean, it was all in the news wasn't it? The 陸客 stuff. Very big hype.

Jesus, does Sankaku have a "filter out useless racial melodrama comments function"? I think that's what they should program next.

Shit, I'm Chinese and i know an ass-load of other Chinese / Japanese / Korean and Taiwanese people. China has a communist government get over it, posting isn't gonna make it better and quite frankly no-one here cares to listen.

This entire blog post was a waste of space that could've been used to inform us about something we cared about.

ROFL you got rejected at the airport. Yea that's just some of the stuff that Taiwan does in order to "distinguish" themselves from China. Sadly Taiwan still is a part of China. The Taiwanese government recognizes this and admits to it on several occasions on the news but they are desperately trying to break off. It's quite sad that they can't coexist like Canada and Quebec. China has threatened on many occasions to start a war the minute Taiwan officially trys to seperate even if they have U.S support.

Quebec in Canada is different. If I remembered right, they voted and there were more votes for staying in Confederation than to become independent. Plus, Quebec is still part of Canada; they voted for the federal election (and no, not all the seatings in Quebec went to the Bloc Quebecois... the number of Bloc MP's actually decreased... yes, I was quite interested in the federal election and watched the live poll results). They are currently under the administration of the federal government, and share the same currency with the rest of Canada. Sure, they have a completely different culture, but they are still part of Canada.

I don't see China exerting any control over Taiwan as of the moment. Nor do Taiwan participate in any of the CPC stuff that is happening. And I have also never heard the government explicitly state that Taiwan is part of China (President Ma might've hinted at it, but he is only saying that to keep the Mainland people happy; if he had outright stated Taiwan is part of China, he would've been booted out of office). And for your information, the majority of Taiwanese people prefer the status quo more than either independence or unification.

As for the anon who mentioned the "useless racial melodrama," if you don't appreciate it, don't come in here. Nobody cares if you care about this issue or not. If you don't want to hear what's happening in here, don't come to the article.

@ Basilio - it looks to me like you are heavily under the media influence. If you actually took the time to understand some of the history between China and Taiwan, maybe you would also understand that Taiwan is in fact officially a province under China. Yes, Taiwanese deny it and falsify their union. That is why we get all of these immature retards who don't do any research and just randomly take sides. You on the other hand seem to know quite a bit so I suggest you do some further research. Up until now, Taiwan has been unable to officially separate from the mainland.

@ the anon - No Taiwan fully denies being a part of China. But you are right about the war. The only reason China is allowing Taiwan to do as they please without going into war with them is in fact because the Taiwanese have the support of the Americans. China does not want unnecessary conflicts against the U.S.

From what I've heard and learned, Taiwan was "returned" to China after WWII and the Japanese were driven back to Japan. The government in charge of the time was the ROC. Then, the Chinese Civil War too place, and the CPC defeated the ROC in the Mainland and the ROC was forced to retreat to the island of Taiwan. Until then, not a lot of attention was paid to the island. After the ROC took refuge there, they fortified themselves there and tried to "take back" the mainland while preventing the CPC from taking over Taiwan, 金門 and 媽祖. Especially 金門. The war lasted for decades until it finally died down, and the two sides are at a "stalemate" (though the CPC could easily overpower the ROC right now, due to the pressure from US, they do not desire to stir up unwanted conflict).

So, technically, in the doctrine of the ROC, the government is the "rightful ruler" of the Mainland, including Mongolia and Taiwan. However, most of the Taiwanese people who reside in Taiwan don't believe in that. The enjoy the status quo better than the alternatives.

On the records for CPC though, it may be that Taiwan is (and always had been) a province of China. The same applies to the traditional beliefs of the ROC. But in reality, it is more of just an island controlled by the ROC, and that is the Taiwan of today.

Please point out where I am wrong.

Correction: As long as one do not plan to censor my access to the interwebz.

Shouldn't this website be illegal to access in China? It clearly contains illegal pornographic material...

Because half of the country could barely read Chinese, not to mention English...

a chicken's complaining means nothing to me.

do you know why CPC censor the internet? coz people on the web like you shows little responsibility.

do you know why CPC censor the internet? coz people on the web like you shows little responsibility.

It's just a gaffe, it's highly unlikely he actually meant to imply they should infringe on basic rights.

Umm... the whole of all communist governments, including China, always infringe on basic rights.