Marriage to 8-Year-Old Upheld

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A Saudi Arabian judge recently ruled for the second time that an arranged marriage between a 47-year-old man and an 8-year-old girl was legal and binding.

Reportedly, the girl’s father married off his daughter to his close friend in return for the settlement of outstanding debts. Upon learning of the sale, the girl’s mother, who was separated from the father, filed for the annulment of the marriage.

The case went before Shiek Habib Al-Habib who, citing the Islamic law that governs much of the country’s domestic affairs, ruled that the marriage was in fact valid.

Stunned by the decision, the girl’s mother petitioned an appeals court to overturn the decision. Whilst the appeals court initially refused to certify the decision, in the end, it merely sent the case back to the same judge for reconsideration; Al-Habib then reaffirmed his original ruling.

At the time of the original ruling, Al-Habib managed to extract a promise from the husband that he would not have sex with the girl until she reached puberty, denying him conummation at least until the onset of menses.

Further, Al-Habib noted that upon reaching puberty, the girl could petition the court for a divorce. However, a divorce at that age would be unlikely as the girl’s future prospects would be noticeably dimmed by the perception of her being used goods.

Whilst marriage or betrothal to a pre-pubescent girl is heavily sanctioned in most of the world and usually limited only to the imaginary realm of manga or similar, marriage to young girls has official approval from the highest authorities in the desert kingdom.

Shiekh Addul Aziz Al-Shiekh, the kingdom’s grand mufti, recently reaffirmed the practice in remarks to the public: “It is incorrect to say that it’s not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger. A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she’s too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her.”

“We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls,” continued Al-Shiekh. “We should know that Sharia law has not brought injustice to women.”

By the time the girl in question is old enough to petition for her divorce, her groom will be well into his fifties.

Via CNN.

Those acquainted with Islam will of course know that Mohammed himself is widely considered to have been something of a lolicon, having married his third wife Aisha when she was six, and having had sex with her when she was 9; considering that example, the Wahhabist position seems almost liberal…


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    Comment by Shadow
    Comment by boneless
    11:51 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    For them, must be like reserving a table at Spago years in advance, I suppose…

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:18 15/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I have a better opinion on Islam now, let's all convert and worthship Mohammed!

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    Comment by Artefact

    Enjoy the painful cutting.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:23 19/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    a fair price to pay for keeping multiple lolis. legal!

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:56 19/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    loli harem wins over pain

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:09 13/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ...every time

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:07 24/12/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    so like how to u convert to islam?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:28 16/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    no muslim worsjips muhammad
    or jesus

    Jesus and Muhammad are both prophets of god
    Muhammad is a successor to Jesus Christ
    \
    No muslim is a muslim unless he belives in Jesus and all prophets of course
    from adam on up

    Comment by kiah
    04:51 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    wow what a sick country :)

    Comment by The Jumper
    07:03 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    not really they were there even before amerikkka

    they are like the chinese....we cant really need to comprehend their law, its their law

    when in rome, do what the romans do...

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:31 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Excuse me,"they are like the chinese". What's that suppose to mean "Skipper"?

    Comment by RawrFear
    14:46 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Probably that the Chinese just have different traditions and such from the Western nations (such as kids peeing in public), so we have no right to look down upon China's laws/traditions because it's just a different culture, rather than a lack of morality.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:15 15/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i dunno....
    peeing in public is only wat country bumpkins pull.

    but the protection of minors is a pretty western concept.

    bet if u ere an injun, u wunt mind sacrificing ur son on a pyramid? huh....

    r there any values dat r universal?

    YES. OTAKUISM

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    Comment by Sigh
    11:10 21/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "so we have no right to look down upon China’s laws/traditions because it’s just a different culture"

    ha ha ha multiculturalist liberal propaganda creates idiots like you. Yeah lets accept and tolerate institutionalised paedophillia and let them into our country, while were at it.

    This is much worse than a communist state. Heck China seems like paradise, compared to the sick and disgusting way they treat minorities and woman.

    Yeah we should all respect and let other cultures thrive in our own country and respect their right to persecute minorities.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:07 30/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I know that as recently as the 19th century, in the united states there where no age of consent laws. I recently read a book about the civil war, and in it a confederate solder (who was at least 20) married a girl who was 12. Also, as recently as the 1930s in some rural areas it was considered okay for 12 years olds to marry 20 year olds. Human nature and physiology hasn't changed much in the last century. Just laws and politics.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:13 17/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would have to agree, at least on this point. I believe in Louisiana and maybe a couple of other similar states. They still have Similar laws on the books at least. practiced or not. Though they usually have parental consent, nonetheless it remains.

    Comment by Peter
    00:07 21/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Leave China out of this. Peeing in public does not legalised child abuse make. There are no laws in China that "we can't really need to comprehend". China is fundamentally different from Saudia Arabia because law and religion are separate - something not even all of Europe can attain.

    Comment by Busy
    19:07 24/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Actually it is the religion that makes the laws... A religion like this shouldn't be allowed to exist.

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    Comment by AmericanGrunt
    20:47 02/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or bomb their country into the stone age. Wait, never mind. They are in the stone age.
    Culture or not, wrong is wrong.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:23 09/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What do you mean "they are like the chinese"?

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:06 12/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    im moving to rome...

    Comment by Amak
    07:33 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's how their customs are. If this was reversed and accepted in America, but frowned upon in Saudi Arabia, they would think it was sick. Depends how you were brought up.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:00 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So you mean it's ok because they were brought up to accept it? You know, you can still consider the physical and mental damage on the child who was suddenly given up to someone by their parents and disapprove even if your religion allows it. But why not? Because it's more convinient when women are property of men and have no saying in any matter. I'm not woman, I'm not a feminist either... It's just illogical... I read quran and here's a little something:
    If you doubt(yes, no actual wrong doing. Just doubt...) your wife will disobey you, lecture them and don't go to bed with them. If your doubt is not cleared, beat them.

    Comment by loli for president
    11:43 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    another liberal hypocrite who is against loli-ban, but also against loli-marriage just because it's Muslism Country...

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:27 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Liberal hipocrite" anon doesn't realize that Muslim men are very adept at pleasing their women and that denial of male services to a woman is an effective punishment itself. He also doesn't realize that the way children are brought up in places other than his own have different customs and different ways of raising their children and that this child isn't being scarred traumatically (rape) or sexually abused or molested (key words: abuse, molested).

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:54 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You mean they raise their children to be ready for suddenly having sex with a disgusting old man at the age of nine?

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    Comment by Kitsune9Tails
    21:33 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I always like hearing conservatives argue. They label anything that they disagree with as "liberal hypocrisy". Heh. Recent studies have shown conservatives read books less than other people. Maybe if they read a dictionary instead of relying on Fox News, they'd understand what the term "liberal" actually means.

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    18:11 30/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
    >> tolerant of other countries boinking kids

    Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
    >> same as above

    Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
    >> government hand outs

    Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.
    >> no morals other than what they feel is moral at the time...

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    Comment by NakkiNyan
    18:12 30/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conservative Republican and hate fox news ... and pretty much any US news for that matter.

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    Comment by Ghostlyy
    07:19 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I will solve this problem:

    Anything goes, as long as it is completely agreed upon by both parties.

    If someone manipulates or acts against the will of another, that's when it gets bad.

    When someone appears ready to make rational decisions for themselves, let them tear away at it.

    As to when that is, it differs from person to person obviously, but it is pretty much after you are about 6 or 7.

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    Comment by mix
    08:02 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you know, this kind of thing do not happen all the time in saudi arabia. there is even some people that want the sharia law to be revised, but they were rejected by the conservatist, which pretty much rule the country.

    Comment by Izu Taisa
    08:03 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    u sick because not understand others custom.read carefully.actually although she is underage,but the husband wont have sex until puberty.and she can divorce after puberty.in america,we have sex when we are underage,and not through marriage.better marry than have sex,better and more civilized way

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    Comment by DmonHiro
    08:06 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is no justification for a little girl being forced into marriage. Oh...he won't have sex with her until she hits puberty...I guess 12 IS better then 8. I don't give a fuck about your culture, this is UNJUSTIFIABLE.

    Comment by loli for president
    11:45 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    fail to read sarcasm...

    Comment by Izu Taisa
    20:45 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yeah.this person phail

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:07 23/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    yes, but remember that its not sex if the old man uses her in the bum.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:59 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    She was sold off for finical reasons, that's not justifiable to do to a child, culture has nothing to do with it I think.

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    Comment by maskawaih
    10:43 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i agree with you. while i don't bother with their customs, but settling debt with this way is just wrong.

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    Comment by Jira
    10:45 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sorry, but your reasoning and your grammar fucking suck. I'm gonna need you to rethink both of them. How the hell is it "civilized" to marry at 8, and have sex at 12, as long as your married? I'd rather see having sex at 16-18 and not being married. I know most of us here like loli, but this is just plain damn wrong.

    Comment by loli for president
    11:50 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    hypocrite.

    i don't know, MAYBE you hate it when you hear an 'immoral' lolicon got arrested, but then you also condemn child marriage just because to you it's wrong

    you just sounds like some organized religion when you say the statement 'just plain damn wrong'

    Comment by RawrFear
    15:04 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oy, loli for prez-san, you do realize, do you not, that most people on this site who like lolis only like 2D lolis, correct? You known, fictional, drawn characters that don't have feelings, don't feel pain etc; see where I'm going here? How the fuck is it hypocritical to want to protect real, flesh and blood eight year olds from the perversions of old men while you find a drawn image attractive? There's a huge fucking difference between a drawn image and flesh and blood little girl. It doesn't matter if the drawn image is killed in a brutal manner, in the end, no one was fucking hurt. It doesn't matter. Guess what though, that real girl has feelings, hopes, dreams, aspirations for the future and whatever else.

    Further, there's nothing forcing the guy not to have sex with the girl until she hits puberty. I mean, who's going to be checking? So what if the court told him not to shag her, if he wants to, he will; no one's going to stop him.

    Then there's your claim that it's really all ok, since she can petition for a divorce when she hits puberty. First, I'd like to insult your intelligence for believing a society that would allow a little girl to be sold into a marriage would give that same girl, when she's only slightly older, even rights to actually divorce the guy. I mean, the girl is guaranteed to get the divorce; yeah, she can petition for one, just like her mum petitioned for the girl to get out of the marriage - tell me, how did that work out?

    Then we should consider what would happen to the girl if she did get the divorce. That kind of society very, very highly values and emphasizes a woman's virginity and purity. If the girl goes for a divorce after she hits puberty (and therefore, after her 'husband' has forced himself upon her) then who'll want to take her? She won't be worth anything since she'll no longer have her virginity.

    Think before you post; saves people from having to answer your stupidity.

    Gawd.
    I hate all religions.

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    Comment by Jira
    16:08 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thank you RawrFear. Let's clear this up Loli does NOT equal pedophile. A pedophile and loli are two different things. We like 2D lolis and nothing more. It's fucking wrong, because the girl isn't old enough to make the decision for herself. And you're wrong because I FUCKING HATE ALL RELIGIONS with a passion. A 47 year old having sex with an 8 or 12 year old is just fucking wrong no matter how you look at it. They can't even really give birth at that age, because their pelvis is too small. Their breasts won't produce enough milk. This has nothing to do with religion, it's just fucking unethical.

    Comment by MikeeUSA
    01:23 15/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You're not fooling anyone with your moral indignation.
    "We only like 2d lolis, not 3d, we are morally upstanding!" LOL

    The fact is that if the man starts having relations with this girl once she has become a young woman there is nothing morally wrong about his marraige and nothing opposed to natural law.

    You, if you would deny that men marry and have relations with females of childbearing age (which this man has promised to wait until), are scum.

    The worldwide average for females to reach childbearing age is 13.5 . The normal bellcurve is 12 to 14.

    Men having relations with young women who are their wives is good and scantioned by God (Biblically), and supported by Nature.

    It's unfortunate that the muslims allow females to divorce their husbands. This shows that the muslims are not fully pro-men.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:11 15/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Loli is srs bzns.

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    Comment by CS
    03:59 15/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Excellent post, RawrFear, +Pts.

    Hi Mikee. Raped any children recently?

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    Comment by LunarSD
    04:09 15/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "'MORNING (NAME) HAVE YOU RAPED ANY CHILDREN RECENTLY?"

    I'm going to find some way to use this IRL... and it will be very entertaining.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:46 31/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow... Mikee, you actually think it's fair to not allow women to divorce....

    In any case since this is an arranged, loveless, and forced marriage, then in my view it's wrong.

    Comment by SmilingMag
    19:26 14/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Saudi Government and judicial system is screwed up. That's what you get with absolute monarchies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:45 31/08/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, that's what you get with Sharia.

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:00 01/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It manatory in the bible








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