A nine-year-old girl who was impregnated by her stepfather and received an abortion has been at the centre of a storm of controversy in staunchly Catholic Brazil, as in response to the abortion a Catholic archbishop excommunicated the girl’s mother and the doctors who performed the procedure, saying abortion is worse than rape.
The girl is said to have been sexually assaulted by her 23-year-old stepfather, and months after began complaining of stomach pains. Her mother took her to the hospital, and doctors established that the girl was four months pregnant, with twins.
Realising that the girl’s pelvis was far too small to accommodate the delivery of the infant, and judging that the pregnancy would endanger the life of the mother, doctors recommended the pregnancy be ended. The mother assented.
“As doctors, we could not allow a girl of 9 to suffer like this, until she paid with her own life.”
The archbishop of Olinda and Recife damned all those involved in the abortion, excommunicating everyone involved: “Rape is a great sin, but abortion is an even greater sin.”
Abortion is illegal in Brazil unless “the pregnancy puts the life of the woman in serious risk, or if the pregnancy is the result of a rape”. This case was recognised as being quite legal.
The Church has since faced a storm of criticism for the decision, with even the Health Minister weighing in: “I am shocked by the radical position of this religion which, wrongly saying it is defending a life, puts another life in danger that is as important as any other.”
The stepfather who impregnated the nine-year-old was arrested and admitted to having his way with the child since she was six. He was not excommunicated.
Via Yomiuri.
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>he was not excommunicated
Rape was here, abortion is a loser.
o.o''' since 6 she was raped till 9.... how sad
Not only that, but he also abused her older sister until she became too old for him. It was never stated how old she was when he stopped raping her, but that information went public both on Brazilian and Portuguse TVs.
Failed at writing "Portuguese".
Betelgeuse?
Just don't say that 2 more times.
Beetle... breakfast?
Beetle... Drink?
This is why the Catholic Church = Fail.
this story seriusly reminded me the manga "bitter virgin"
the scar in her heart will never gonna heal easily, you know?
its called mind, and your right, it will be a trauma really difficult/impossible to heal.
Ford? is that you?
This is sad, sadder than Fritzl.
Religion is indeed the biggest abomination when practiced by fools./
Yep. Fanatics like this give a bad name to anyone who is religious. Damn Bishop should be excommunicated.
I don't see how anyone could possibly be surprised by this. It's not a matter of "fanatics" or "fools".
When one bases one's beliefs on something other than reason, one is going to end up with unreasonable beliefs.
he could be excommunicated...
or stabscommunicated.
Darn you, Archbishop Gary Oak! >:[
Fuck you for making lol at something as sad as this.
Oh please, people have made lulz at much worse before.
> he was not excommunicated
Yeah, BIG SERIOUS WTF.
If a person here is to blame, it's this rapist who bred the grounds for an impossible delivery (through abominable means) of new life. His evil action, is the source of why the life of the kids died.
The archbishop of Olinda and Recife, can go to hell for their misguidance of the many.
I can't believe this shit. I guess letting the girl die from childbirth (or pregnancy complications) is better than abortion? Yeah, this is why I'm not religious so far as organized religion: girl is in a catch 22, through no fault of her own. Either way someone is going to die, and the one person who set all of this in motion, gets no religious punishment. However, when the people involved try to make the best of a bad situation (which you'll note "GOD" did not even stop), they're going to hell. The Catholic Church can go to hell (for this among many other things).
You can't blame people... nevermind.
You SHOULD blame people for being stupid. There are good people in every religion, but this priest is a fucktard.
If there is a God, he probably wouldn't like to be so badly misrepresented. It wouldn't be any surprise if God stayed by the side of the girl and her mother and abandoned the priest instead.
God needs a new agent...
QFT
Excommunication wouldn't make sense since nothing in the bible condemns it.
catholicism: we think child rape is a-okay!
“I am shocked by the radical position of this religion" im not at all surprised they tend to do this kind of stuff...
neither am I, but it still hits a cord
And that is why protestants does not want to have anything to do with those catholic judas priests.
Protestants are fags.
and this is why i think religions are fucking nuts... hell they even stoping stem cell reserch .. how many lives could that help is probly over the billions ...
Religions are just a little part of the great human stupidity.
"Amen" to that! :P
Objection! That was to embryonic stem cell research. Stem cell research on adult somatic (dead for the idjits) cells they don't have a problem with.
Also, when ppl disappear around you in an instant, then you'll see how stupid certain humans are in believing in a religion (like me).
The archbishop has to be pedofile to say that..
Archbishop has fetish for pregnant lolis.
Religion sux! It only starts wars and conflicts. It amazes me to that people will worship the same God, but will kill each other over different beliefs.
People will kill each other over any belief, it has nothing to do with ONLY religion. It could be over race, job, opinion, etc...It's unfair to say religion is a maker of war, because it's a factor of many things. Religion brings peace to most of the world's population, whatever religion they may believe in.
Indeed Narcissist, that is why Christians don't stand for Catholicism...that and the Dark Ages.
Bottom line is Believing in Jesus itself turns people evil and into narrow minded fouls. "Face facts" people only believe in god these days because there afraid of "so called hell" Thats not fate people....IT'S FEAR!!!!
Religion can be a nasty thing. Luckily I am a free thinker and accept hard facts only. Regrading about Catholicism do you know that Isaac Newton hated that religion in his life time? It just a fact I pick up while reading through history.
So Newton hated it. Shakespeare. Dryden. Augustine. Aquinas. Modern times? Mel Gibson. J.R.R. Tolkien. Baudelaire. Seamus Heaney. All artists respected on the highest level in their field. All Catholic.
OBJECTION! Shakespeare's religious beliefs (other than the fact that he was certainly a Christian) are unknown. What IS known, however, is that he lived during a time when being Catholic was illegal in Britain.
uhmm...
damn... idiot stepfather...
i can't believe he rape a 9 year old girl.....
Potang ina yan...
yung mga ganyan dapat binibitay.
lol dapat putol etits yan!
>>a Catholic archbishop excommunicated the girl’s mother and the doctors who performed the procedure
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judging by your comments,seems quite y'all know Tagalog from Philippines,right?The most corrupt country,i presumed?Yeah,Catholic empire never gave a pardon to Galileo whom they treated him as a devil because he made a breakthrough in science.Sheesh.
correction: he'd been raping her since she was six.
Religions are evil and if there is a hell, the religious people will go there first.
When you refer to religion are you talking about faith?
Religions don't cause problems, they all mean well at tbeir core, but corrupt, power-hungry people in religions do, which not everyone is.
No, your wrong, religions give you the power to make a baseless statement and hold it as the absolute true. That makes it the ultimate weapon, "meaning well at their core" doesn't justify the existence of such a dangerous thing.
@Emcivy: why is he/she wrong?
What if you are wrong?
I'm sorry, but I've learned that in this world EVERYONE thinks that they have the true in their hands.
EVERY religion has "good" and "bad" things and your own personal judgment is what you and everyone just have to follow.
In a world as subjective as this world is, I doubt that a full consensus could be made on such a polemic topic as religion is.
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And for people that the only thing they know to say is "fuck religion" and "religion sucks" try to think that religion gives faith to a LOT of people and if you're so good to say such moralizing things... then think and try to be more polite to other people beliefs. The only thing you're achieving with all the rage and hate... is to generate more rage and hate.
Anonymous, meet Richard Dawkins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mmskXXetcg
Anonymous, meet the Dawkins naysayers:
Chapter 1 of Richard Dawkins' book, The God Delusion uses all the classic disreputable techniques that Dawkins has complained about in his dealings with certain creationists. He misrepresents Christian understanding of God and the role of evidence and faith. In addition, he quotes from unnamed sources, representing them as standard examples of religious believers, when they are obviously not mainline. Dawkins mistakenly categorizes conflicts as being religious in nature, when, in reality, none of the disputes involve any theological issues at all. In fact, the examples all involve political power struggles of groups that just happen to be from different religious affiliations. He fails to to point out the atheists who have committed even greater atrocities. Finally, Dawkins lies outright about how the U.S. courts are protecting "hate speech" on the basis of "religious freedom," when the cases were judged not to be hate speech, nor even religious speech. Despite its popularity, The God Delusion has to be Richard Dawkins' most poorly written book to date.
Just curious for some follow up on this,
What greater atrocities committed by atheists, daz?
Nanking
I don't see how adhering to his faith made the ex-communicating priest corrupt or power-hungry. He was just blindly, faithfully following the dogma of institutionalized stupidity. So how is that his religion is good and following it is good, but it results in something like a 9 year old girl suffering and dying a preventable death?
But then again, this same god asked Abraham to sacrifice his son Issac as an offering. So who knows what the hell it's thinking.
I myself don't have any use for religion etc etc all that jazz.
However, you cannot use the judaeo-christian scenario of God ordering Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac as an example of religion being at fault. Because
A)It was a test of faith, it was not required that Isaac died only that Abraham was complient, and Isaace lived thus.
B) Similar levels and worse shit happen in other religion, much as the same as some religions may be totally faultless. You need either universal arguments/scenarios or a solid argument on every single religion.
This is why people go to university and study for their whole lives, generation after generation, and still we have this 'to have religion or not?' debate. It's not that easy, Dummkopf
Only a sick son of a bitch can dream up something like hell for those that don't obey and heaven for those that do.
>__O Did you even read the above comment?!
Not all religions even have hell.
I do not think religion has anythig to do with this. remember what they said sodom was like. I don't think they had any religion and look how evil they were. I think the commited things that was seven times as bad as bad. do not get me wrong I hate what they did to that girl.