Japanese Women Scorn Men as Too Poor

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A recent survey confirms the already well understood importance of wealthy spouses to Japanese women, suggesting that perhaps falling marriage and birth rates may have some connection to the possibly unrealistic expectations of such women with respect to income:

Over 90% overall (of both genders) desired marriage to various degrees. A similar result was obtained asking about whether children were desired.

60% of men expressed no preference over their partner’s income.

Male income desired by women (per annum salaries in yen):

Below 3,000,000: 0.9%
3-4,000,000: 9.8%
4-5,000,000: 16.1%
Over 5,000,000, below 10,000,000: 43.7%
Over 10,000,000: 9.8%

Average “salaryman” salaries versus age (in millions of yen):

Male: 20~24: 2.7 25~29: 3.79 30~34: 4.61
Female: 20~24: 2.31 25~29: 2.94 30~34: 2.99

The overall average for such workers of all ages is 4.37 million.

Marriage statistics suggest most women want a partner within 5 years of their own age. The actual age difference between partners has declined to 1.7 years in 2005, down from 2.9 in 1987.

These are based on official statistics and private surveys.

This can be interpreted as showing that women want a partner of the same generation, but the overwhelming majority also want a partner with an income significantly above average, and probably significantly more than their own.

A more controversial interpretation we see is that these women have little appreciation of their own social position (or at least are wildly ambitious), as the number of men earning at the levels being sought is much lower than the demand, suggesting the income expectations of most are completely unrealistic.

Although there is obviously a contingent who will settle for something more realistic, looking at the overall marriage and birth rate statistics suggests such optimistic expectations may be a factor.

Of course, these are just some of the interpretations possible – placing blame on Japanese women is not the intent, and nor is the evidence used here conclusive in any way.


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    Comment by Reflectia
    14:07 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whoa! Japanese women's expectations are like skyscrapers.

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    Comment by Emc2Trooper
    18:15 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Girls don't like boys,
    Girls like cars and money...."

    -Good Charlotte

    Comment by Firo
    19:01 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Death's design blood splattered wall
    Face melting one vicious whore"

    -Slayer

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    Comment by Narcissist
    21:35 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "The only thing you need is the lower body.
    Sell of those female pigs."

    - Johannes Krauser II

    Comment by AnonY
    21:36 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "I like-...little girls!
    They make me feel so-...BAD!"

    -Oingo Boingo.

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    Comment by XSportSeeker
    22:00 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "They see me rollin'..."
    - Chamillionaire

    Comment by Hitoshura
    23:04 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "YATTA" - Happa-Tai

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    Comment by albert_2mb
    02:17 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Maguro tabetai~" - Megurine Luka
    It's quite moe, until you realize she wants tuna every single goddamn day.

    Comment by Kazaki
    03:50 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Gold Digger"

    -Kanye West

    Yin FTW!!!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:35 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Isn't she lucky, this Hollywood girl?
    - Britney Spears

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    Comment by Sevodax
    10:16 24/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Combo Breaker ^_^...sorry

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:42 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "People die if they are killed!"

    -Emiya Shirou

    Comment by Fleeting shadow
    07:21 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Cats, Dogs, Monsters and Sons prohibited.

    — Rudy's father

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    Comment by Narcissist
    11:03 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol, if you do not make comments that hints to the matter of the post it is not funny!

    Comment by Fleeting shadow
    18:35 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Think again :}

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    Comment by C27
    11:21 28/03/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Tell me that you want those kind of things
    that money just can't buy
    For I don't care too much for money
    For money can't buy me love

    -The Beatles

    Comment by kyo
    20:39 30/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mom and dad this is Chasey
    Chasey this is my mom and dad
    Now show em them titties
    Now show em them titties

    -Bloodhound Gang

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:13 12/02/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    whoever said "money cant buy happyness" doesnt know where to shop~

    Billion Dollar Man

    ~Lawrence620 (cant seem to loggin)

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:24 18/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    You all need to stop looking at this from a Western perspective. Whereas the West has already experienced many waves of feminism, countries like Japan have yet to embrace concepts we take for granted. In Japan, when a woman gets married she is EXPECTED to QUIT HER JOB in order to start a family. Why doesn't she just send the kids to daycare, you ask? Well, good luck finding one. Even if you can find a daycare, you have to apply and make it through the waiting list before your wife can drop off Junior and get back to her own job. Even if she DID get her job back, she would be stuck at an income-cap because when companies hire young women, the woman is given a job with the expectation that she will someday leave after her marriage. Therefore, if you are running a company, what benefit does a well-trained woman give to your bottom-line? Absolutely none. So these women you’re mocking want a husband that earns money because they have no realistic expectation of being able to earn a significant salary of their own. The only exception to this general rule is foreign companies operating in Japan. When I was at university in Tokyo, all of the other Japanese girls were jealous of the one girl who got a job with J.P. Morgan, where she would be allowed to advance and maybe even get her kids into a company-run daycare. So, sure, a lot of Japanese women like to shop and spend money on brand-name items that they don’t need, but the problem is not that simple. Not all women are “gold-digging whores” and you will all be lonely for a very long time if you keep thinking like that.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:28 04/11/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not our fault they have too high of expectations. And FYI, we don't hate on them because they want to marry rich, it's the fact that after marriage, all of the guy's income goes to the woman while the guy's on a small allowance. Seems kinda unfair to us, no?

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:35 03/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Everyone on this planet makes attribution errors all over the place and lies to themselves continuously until they believe the rest of the world is wrong and they are right. And take idols sometimes, like obama. At least 95% of the time. that is the conclusion I have come to after 21 years of living and studying several sciences.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:11 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's a good thing that such data is in no way completely representative of Japanese women as a whole, nor are you drawing any sort of conclusion based on said facts!

    Why, it'd sure be terrible if people were to misunderstand this as an unfair generalization against Japanese women!

    Good thing we're not hurting anybody's feelings!

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    Comment by Artefact
    14:19 01/03/2009 # ! Transparent

    If you have a critique, then make it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:49 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I was mocking the people who take personal offense to this sort of thing.

    Comment by Anonymous
    15:56 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    >Why, it’d sure be terrible if people were to misunderstand this as an unfair generalization against Japanese women!

    That better be fucking sarcasm.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:01 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Or delicious irony.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:46 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I second that motion.

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:01 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    > It’s a good thing that such data is in no way completely representative of Japanese women

    Indeed you are right. It's representative of not just Japanese women, but ALL women!

    In the same way that all men want tits and arse that don't squish in their hands and a box that'll grip what they push, all the women just want financial stability and high status. They all want to be treated like a little princess, even if they're fat, stupid and ugly.

    That's why, in the end, we'll all be fucking dolls or sex-robots or whatever.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i''ve decided to major in something science for college so i can just clone a woman and tell other woman "hahahaha i make tons of money and i can make my own women, looks like the tables have been turned" and i will be a great entrepreneur cuz yall wanna no how i did it and ill write a book so no worries

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:55 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Survey = 100% representative of the people who took it. Do you know who took it? Was that fact mentioned? No? So shut the fuck up.

    We've heard it all before. It's true that a majority of women in Japan have expectations that are just too high.

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    Comment by Garvey
    06:27 17/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    We need not a survey to confirm what we already know. Women are parasites, only tolerated because we need sons to take our places.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:11 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is pretty unreasonable. Most girls I know (and myself) wouldn't have expectations this high. Love > money.

    Comment by Anonymous
    16:27 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    There is probably a bit of a trend varying area to area (very roughly...still depends on the people). Southern California, money=love.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:58 08/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    my god... it... it all makes sense now!

    Comment by Anon
    14:15 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Now I ain't saying' she a gold digger, but she ain't messing with no broke niggaz.

    Comment by minakichan
    14:18 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    (Man, where do you get these pics??)
    (Yin!! I love you~)

    Comment by Marine-RX179
    14:21 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    They want a husband who is around their own age, AND make lots of money? That ain't gonna happen. Average male below age 30 ain't gonna make over 5,000,000yen, and if there's males at the age of 30+ that make that much money, would they actually marry women that are already pass their 'best before' time (30)? The chances are they would go for young wives instead of someone as old as themselves...

    Really, the equation is not working out...

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    Comment by Artefact

    Considering the low starting salaries for Japanese, it seems marrying before 30 is practically out of the question for men.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:09 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So, you have to earn that much to get some pussy.. Then you work your ass off and usually never home due to work, what will stop her from fucking younger guys while your slaving away for her. Fuck that, rather stick to being a happy Otaku.. FTW

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:14 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with you there bro. I earn lot more than that, however the problem lies with a faithful wife.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:17 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I guess you guys haven't heard of a leash. ;)

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    Comment by albert_2mb
    02:20 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Lol, now I somehow understand why people spend so much money on figurines... It's because they're much cheaper than a woman!

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    Comment by Zelgadis4tw
    13:46 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That, plus they:

    1. Don't age
    2. Are faithful
    3. Very low continuing maintenance cost
    4. ???
    5. profit

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:13 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I love how figures actually CAN make profit xD

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    Comment by alex1_phang3
    23:53 03/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This might be a rise of a new business, ero figurines for females?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:41 04/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you forgot #6. they don't bitch.
    that's why I have figures and dakimakuras.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:32 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What may need to be taken under consideration is what they actually expect. It's not necessarily surprising that women would like men to have strong incomes, but that's saying they want men with the motivation to have larger incomes (become stronger providers) than ones content with their lower bracket.

    It's not saying they wouldn't date men with lower incomes, but, rather, wouldn't date men that seem to be going nowhere.

    Cutie McTits isn't unwilling to date the Jim Stacks the stock boy in job training, but will run off with Keen Eyes the business student if Jim isn't taking his future seriously.

    Comment by NTX
    14:32 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't see what the problem is. If you're asking "which you prefer", it's obvious they'll want a guy who can provide for them, no?

    Comment by Anonymous
    19:02 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Imagine for a second that you might actually LOVE someone..

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    Comment by muteKi
    19:53 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I would have read the survey as "all other things being equal" tacitly added to the beginning of the survey question.

    But then I'm neither Japanese nor female anyway.

    I found the results a little odd. Apparently more people want between 5 million and 10 million yen than above it. I can only wonder what they'd get out of that.

    Comment by Dol’Wolf
    20:38 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is their expectation. They would like a man earning 5-10M at least, not at best.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:42 01/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    LOVE? what's that?

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    Comment by Zelgadis4tw
    13:49 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Is it edible?

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:44 04/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    if you ingest it. expect extreme diarrhea.

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    Comment by Zelgadis4tw
    11:37 07/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nyorero~n

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:42 04/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "What's LOVE gotta do with it?"

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:59 05/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Love = Money.
    The more money you have, the more love you can get.

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:00 09/03/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Who needs a heart, if a heart can be broken?






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