Amidora! The Greatest Princess in the World

I see what you did there

Am I the only one who just wants a simple RyuujixAmixTaigaxMinori?

For some reason I feel that I'd rather see Ryuuji with Ami than with Taiga or Minorin... But what the hell, someone go make some manga TaigaxAmi/MinorinxAmi. =)

TD had only one ending from episode one. Anyone who thought it would be anyone other than Taiga (a) didn't bother reading the title of the show...Tora(Taiga)Dora(Ryuuji), ummmmm isn't that a dead giveaway? and (b) completely and utterly ignored the first rule of Japanese TV love and that is that the couple is shown to you in episode 1 while the remaining episodes are merely there to show you how they come together. I mean have you watched any anime before? Keitarou/Naru (Love Hina), Kaoru/Aoi (Ai Yori Aoshi), Chiaki/Nodame etc etc etc they all do the same thing. I'm not watching to experience new and wonderful plotlines....like most people, I am just waiting for "the moment" between Ryuuji and Taiga.

You couldn't expect anything else than a TaigaxRyuuji ending from the beginning. I mean it's still a romantic comedy and thats how the genre works. It seems that some people are forgetting this fact because Toradora isn't as clichéd as other anime of this genre, so it sometimes seems more like a "real" romance anime (which is why the show is so much better than others).

I perfectly understand that sentiment - "oh look highschool kids, romantic comedy, fun fun but I already know eveything that's going to happen". Well planned surprises are always welcome, and this show doesn't really allow for that, which can definitely be thought of as a flaw in an already far too congested genre.

I just think a lot of people are both 1)Overreacting, and 2)Really, really dense.

Duly noted. Excuse my mistake. Although I feel my other points still address other's posts.

It most certainly does, sir. Though I must admit that, even with the vastly superior execution of Toradora (compared, once again, to Shakugan no Shana and Zero no Tsukaima) I was hoping for something other than the path the series took, myself. (Due, again, to - ahh, you know what I'm gonna say next.) At least it *works* this series around. (Unlike... yeah, I need to stop harping on those other two now.)

Tropey != cliche, sir. And it *is* tropey, as "trope" is a word indicating a (frequently very broad) plot pattern that people expect to see. Nobody (who actually knows what a trope is) ever said tropiness was a bad thing.

Though, apparently, I should be more careful where I use the word, because I can't expect it to be looked up. Oh well.

A short, long-haired, hard-but-soft-on-the-inside girl meeting a mostly generic guy, then they fall in love? I guess Spice and Wolf is just generic tsundere crap then, too...

It's not tropey if the male lead and female lead end up together in a romantic comedy. That's like saying it's cliche generic shit for the main characters to reach their destination in an adventure story, or the good guys to beat the bad guys in an action story, those are simply the baselines of what defines the genres (unless you do the whole "everybody dies, BAD END" schitck). It's how they go about doing it that actually matters, and Toradora's done it better then a lot of shows lately.

If they went with any other "end" or followed some other "route", the entire story would have to be rewritten. The fact they give it's relationships that long-term development shows that it's doing SOMEthing right instead of random shitty harem twists. You can't just throw an Ami end in there at the end, it makes NO sense.

And as for them remaining friends, I appreciate seeing a relationship bud from close friendship instead of the hopelessly overdone, grade-school mentality idea of "unrequited crush, I don't know anything about her and there's no chemistry but everything still works out perfectly in the end!".

Yes, even more overdone then shitty tsundere ends.

The reason it's considered "cliche" is that it happens to follow the same "Boy Meets Tsundere, Boy Is Abused By Tsundere, Boy Loves Tsundere Anyways" pattern as other recent tsundere shows. (see: Shakugan no Shana, Zero no Tsukaima)

So, while it may not be cliche, it's at the very least tropey.