To Aru Majutsu no Index Blu-ray vs Digital TV
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Jan 25, 2009 03:53 JST
- Tags: A Certain Magical Index, Blu-ray, Comparison, DVD Extras, Index, TV
A comparison of the difference between the recently released Blu-ray edition of Index-tan anime A Certain Magical Index (on the right) and the digitally broadcast version (on the left) emerges.
The difference is as night and day… In fact it seems a little extreme? Poor encoding, perhaps?
Those who are still not convinced can view the full (same resolution) 10mb png here.
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"The difference is as night and day...In fact it seems a little extreme?"
Is that sarcasm? They look pretty much the same. You can only really see the difference in the 1st and 4th pics.
You sir need a nice pair of glasses.
Of course it's sarcasm. You can notice less grain on the blu-ray side, but it's not that big of a difference. But for people from 2ch who are always paying attention to details, the blu-ray version is a must buy.
Grain? The broadcast version is artefacted to hell.
LOL. But I don't think Artefact is to blame for this.
Amusing.
I won't say that you're BLIND for not being able to tell the difference, but the difference is pretty obvious to me, personally.
it's not THAT obvious, until you put it on a huge screen, I had to look closer at it to see the little squares/rectangles around picture 3 on the left
But isn't that the point? These shows are meant to be seen on a bigger screen. If I were to take the native resolution of the DTV version and try to fill my 22" monitor with it, the difference would be even MORE clear.
Like I said, the difference is clear enough for me. DTV's quality is quite good and I'm not trying to sound all spoiled but it stuck out for me the moment I enlarged it.
Yes, there are some TINY differences... after you look CAREFULLY... but if it were to convince me to buy a Bluray player, I'd say it's a NO.
I agree. I can't really tell the difference except on the first and last pics, and even then I don't worry about that kind of stuff when I'm just watching it for basic amusement.
They're practically the same, can anyone point out the difference, I sure as hell can't find any.
Look at text, linework, black areas etc. There's a HUGE difference.
Yeah, it's mainly in the darker colors and scenes that any errors are noticeable.
No, there's a TINY difference. The pictures to the right look slightly sharper, but only slightly, and not in a way that anybody sane cares about.
The difference is huge and immediately noticeable, certainly to me and a number of others. I think what we are seeing here is a gap between two differing mentalities or modes of perception...
Look at the borders where the lines are drawn, look for odd stuff, like faded rectangles
I would say something here, but experience has taught me my eyes are broken and I can barely tell differences between VHS, LD, DVD, BD and whatever else's quality.
It's the same for perfume, shampoo, audio cassettes and CDs. Perhaps over a decade of my otaku ways have re-routed my body's nerve endings all to a certain spot of my anatomy. ^^;
I generally feel the same as you, but this time I can see a few pixels here and there when fully zoomed in on the left one (kinda like the encryption in a jpeg). I can only imagine it would be much more noticeable on a 40" plasma screen TV.
Same thing.
I think you can only see the difference if you played it at a HD large plasma/lcd screen
One can only hope it's an encoding issue and they fix it so the differences aren't as noticeable. I'm not shelling out hard-earned cash on crap which looks like worse than a lot of the pirated DVDs
Er...the sharp pictures ARE the Blu-ray version, which is what you'd be shelling out hard-earned cash on. If you watch/download the episodes online illegally for free, then you will probably see the 'low-quality' version.
The Blu-ray.... according to Artefact..... is the pictures on the left-hand side of the picture, while the DTV pictures are on the right. The right hand pics look much better than the left hand ones.
Still, I hope they fix the problem.
No, obviously not. The pictures on the left have the MBS TV station logo clearly visible, so they're obviously the TV version.
The MBS logo on the left side suggests that it's not the Blu-ray version. To me anyway.
My apologies for this; I thought it would be obvious. The left is the HD TV version.
Night and day? Sure, one's sharper than the other, but I wouldn't exactly call it a 'difference as night and day'...but I guess if you're picky enough, that's just a good incentive to buy the Blu-Ray, right?
I think it would be less confusing if the story title were in the opposite order (DTV vs. Blu-Ray). The image on the left is the DTV, and on the right, Blu-Ray, and the Blu-Ray is predictably less grainy given that its working with more bandwidth. So this is rather "as expected", isn't it?
Oh? The DTV pics are on the left? Hmmm...
You're quite right, I overlooked clearly specifying them. I updated the text to reflect this.
Looking at some of the other HD TV we have seen, I do think this DTV version is rather poor...
Well, I only have one eye, Artefact, and that one is near-sighted so no matter (with or without glasses) what my vision will always suck.
Thanks for clarifying that though. :)
I guess I'm going blinder (I'm already visually challenged) 'cause I can't see much, if any difference on my monitor. No blu-ray for me.
I can see the difference but I'm one of those people who's not touching blu-ray until DVD is completely fazed out.
Betamax for life
It's a sony.
You said the dirty word!
oh, to correct myself:
It's a snickers.
At first I though it was just sarcasm, but on full size there is a pretty noticeable pixelation and noise in the left parts of some images (particularly 3 and 5).
Which side is bluray ? :)
if we follow the text it'd seem that the left one is blu ray ?
TV is on the left, BD on the right.
I can see differences with the full res pic... but they are meaningless, at least for me.
Few compression artifacts here and there.
As for Blu-ray, I'm buying it when the blank media and recorder gets dirty cheap. Useless otherwise (for me)...
I mean, if I have no problems watching movies on my PSP, why would I care?
Ah, okay. I was expecting differences like -- redrawings. Previous posts about differences in Strike Witches or Rosario or To Love-Ru releases specified how things were redrawn to get better proportions or to show more (or less) pantsu.
So I was confused like most here with the "I don't see anything" initial remark.
But looking more closely, I see the compression issues and artifacts that other commenters are talking about. Pretty significant if picture quality is your biggest priority, yes, but not for me since all the artwork is the same.
U poor little ECCHI HAREM Yatsu...
There's not much you can change with animation, anyway. Unless you want to map in pore textures on their faces so it looks like hi-def tv or something.
Pretty bad macroblocking on dark areas, and lots of evil ringing. The raw providers must have done some extensive filtering, since it wasn't nearly as bad on the raws and fansubs I watched up to now.
Oh god, full res is huge!!!
The fact that so many people are having problems telling the difference and are confused to which one is higher quality pretty much confirms a minimal difference.
Or it could confirm something else...
Well, at the very least, it certainly supports the theory that the reason Blu-Ray hasn't taken off is that most people either can't tell the difference or don't think it's worth it given the price. ^^;
I think the problem there is that people aren't really given decent comparisons. If you just show blu ray to someone they probably won't notice a difference; put the DVD next to the blu ray and they'll shit bricks over it. Well, not really in the case of anime, as there's only a limited amount of detail in most. But in real life example, there can be a MASSIVE difference. Once you realise how much clearer that blob of pixels in the distance can be...
I cannot stand DVDs of music concerts anymore, the picture is so compressed and blurry and craptacular, I want to be able to see that artist on the stage. Bring on (CHEAPER) blu rays!
Some animes that I've seen a HUGE difference for Blu-ray compared to their DVD-counterparts are:
Any Makoto Shinkai movies. You will literally shit bricks.
Utawarerumono
Sword of the Stranger
If people can't tell the difference after watching these, I'm going to weep for them and their cursed eyes.
It depends if they are looking at the high res picture in which it is pretty obvious. The lower res it is is very hard to tell the difference. It is much sharper but like it matters as I live in the US which means I won't ever see this in blu-ray with subtitles.
sorry artefact, but i think these screenshots are too small to see it clearly, and this is only barely the size of a computer screen. I think they'd get it if they had it on a 40'' tv, it'll be more than obvious then
Well the thing is that if your PC monitor doesn't have a good contrast ratio then you probably wouldn't be able to tell. I have one that was a cheap 1440x900 that didn't display dark colors very well; on it both of the dark scene pictures would look more or less the same.