We may as well occupy ourselves with the question of who the No.1 heroine actually is; let us narrow things down a little to tsundere roles (of the Rie Kugimiya variety) though…
Although taiga fits the tsundere archetype to the bill, she expands tremendously outside of that realm in subsequent episodes, and becomes a far more developed and dimensional character. In many ways she breaks out of her tsundere namesake and becomes a more authentic and real to the viewer. This is in comparison to Louise of course, as Shana is thoroughly well developed as well, but in my honest opinion nowhere as much as Taiga.
Shana=Taiga > Nagi > Louise is my preferred ordered choice.
Shana all the way. Nagi is way too much dere, while Louise is far too much tsun for my tastes. That and Shana's tsundere streaks are generally more well done and don't fall prone to becoming overly stupid like they did with Louise or Nagi, but then again, Shana was their predecessor as well so she had quite the lead over them to begin with anyways.
As for Taiga, she is indeed nice, and I would rank her above Nagi and Louise, but she can't compare to Shana at all.
Louise is without a doubt the worst of the four. Tsundere is great and all, but she's simply a sadist, for every one ounce of dere, she delivers seven-fold tsun.
Liking Taiga though, mainly because she doesn't abuse the protagonist every single goddamn scene. There's still a lot of it, but they mitigated the one-sided violence enough as to where it's far more lovable, only a masochist would hang around Louise longer than a week.
And Shana and Nagi are love. Shana luckily evolved past the sadism stage, and Nagi was always great.
I pretty much agree with this. I like the fact that Taiga and Shana developed past mere tsundere. I don't think Nagi really is that tsun tsun though she has tendencies. Louise is just annoying all the way around.
That's like saying ice is what ruins ice cream... and like saying that maid outfits are what ruins the concept of maids... and like saying animation is what ruins anime... and saying that porn is what ruins the internet.
hmm...artefact u said tsundere roles of kugamiya rie right? nagi wasnt voiced by the tsundere goddess kugamiya rie but by the cute sounding sounding voice of tomatsu haruka.
Bah, I choose Kugimiya. Done. Well, if it's pure tsundere to be the basis of judgment, I'm gonna have to say Shana suits the term best. She has the least deviations from it. Taiga would be the next candidate, but she's generally tsun towards Ryuuji, then goes dere too much for Kitamura. Nagi gave very little tsun, then is pretty much just dere. Louise is as stated above: "for every one ounce of dere, she delivers seven-fold tsun". Anyway, if we're still talking about Rie, give me a Tanaka as well.
Hard to decide... D:
Taiga and Nagi = win
Shana and Louise = fail
partly because only the later 2 are tsundere.
Taiga is not tsundere?
Although taiga fits the tsundere archetype to the bill, she expands tremendously outside of that realm in subsequent episodes, and becomes a far more developed and dimensional character. In many ways she breaks out of her tsundere namesake and becomes a more authentic and real to the viewer. This is in comparison to Louise of course, as Shana is thoroughly well developed as well, but in my honest opinion nowhere as much as Taiga.
Shana=Taiga > Nagi > Louise is my preferred ordered choice.
A proper comment that makes complete sense on Sankaku Complex?
Wow.
I have to agree with you entirely, except I think Taiga is a little bit better than Shana.
your an idiot how could you NOT love shana-tan!
Let the fanboyism begin.
YOU FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIL.
Shana is more hard-core tsundere, I think. Plus she swings a big flaming sword.
Out of Kugimiya's Tsunderes, yeah, I'd say Nagi (tenori taiga is a bit annoying :( )
Taiga and Shana are the real win.
Nagi and Louise are beyond fail.
Maybe because I think the first two are more rounded than the last two and don't appear to be as stupid and annoying.
You're bullshit to say that Shana and Louise are failures
all of them FTW but if i have to chose one of them ill go for shana !!!
i like all of the kugimiya's tsundere, but if i have to choose the best of them ill take shana
Where's the Shanatan option?
That's a bit harsh... I love all 4, can't choose.
They are all mai wafus
Shana all the way. Nagi is way too much dere, while Louise is far too much tsun for my tastes. That and Shana's tsundere streaks are generally more well done and don't fall prone to becoming overly stupid like they did with Louise or Nagi, but then again, Shana was their predecessor as well so she had quite the lead over them to begin with anyways.
As for Taiga, she is indeed nice, and I would rank her above Nagi and Louise, but she can't compare to Shana at all.
Agreed.
Louise is without a doubt the worst of the four. Tsundere is great and all, but she's simply a sadist, for every one ounce of dere, she delivers seven-fold tsun.
Liking Taiga though, mainly because she doesn't abuse the protagonist every single goddamn scene. There's still a lot of it, but they mitigated the one-sided violence enough as to where it's far more lovable, only a masochist would hang around Louise longer than a week.
And Shana and Nagi are love. Shana luckily evolved past the sadism stage, and Nagi was always great.
I pretty much agree with this. I like the fact that Taiga and Shana developed past mere tsundere. I don't think Nagi really is that tsun tsun though she has tendencies. Louise is just annoying all the way around.
Louise>Shana>Nagi>Taiga
I haven't seen much of Toradora so I put Taiga last.
I see you're into S&M play.
Taiga is what ruins toradora IMHO.
Inko-chan is what ruins Toradora...
Kitamura is what ruins Toradora
Minorin is what ruins Toradora.
Blasphemy!
This is madness!
Oh man Inko-chan <3 Wish I could agree that Inko-chan ruins Toradora, but alas, I cannot.
THIS
IS
SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!
Taiga for President!!!
THIS IS MADNESS
THIS IS HERESY
ALL CHARACTERS IN TORADORA FUCKING ROCKS. PERIOD. INKO-CHAN IS MADE OF WIN.
THERE, FIXED FOR YOU ALL.
That's like saying ice is what ruins ice cream... and like saying that maid outfits are what ruins the concept of maids... and like saying animation is what ruins anime... and saying that porn is what ruins the internet.
that last metaphore was genius
as for the pool, i'd say shana = taiga (like 'em both too much to decide =x)> nagi
can't say anything about louise cuz i never watched zero no tsukaima (thats the anime she's from, right?)
But what RUNS Toradora????!
For Louise I just love the character but I also like the new anime series Toradora Taiga Aisaka too. I can't choose one T_T.
Taiga and Shana are win tsundere for me lol
I would vote Taiga if she were not so crazy about Kitamura... I dunno if it's just me, but I hate it whenever she goes "♥北村くん☆♡~~"... yes.
hmm...artefact u said tsundere roles of kugamiya rie right? nagi wasnt voiced by the tsundere goddess kugamiya rie but by the cute sounding sounding voice of tomatsu haruka.
You are thinking of this one:
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2008/12/20/haruka-tomatsu-voice-of-nagi-and-lala/
Note that we are talking about "Nagi" (of Hayate no Gotoku), not "Nagi-sama".
Louise > Shana > Taiga > Nagi
Always liked Louise's "Baka Inu !" & Shana's "Urusai !"
Nagi is teh best, no doubts about that
Shana~Louise>Taiga>>>>>>>>Nagi
>Always liked Louise’s “Baka Inu !” & Shana’s “Urusai !”
Hell yeath, I second that.
“Baka Inu & Urusai ” damn thus brings only chills maybe world most irritating replys
I prefer Katagiri Yuuhi over all 4 listed, but Yuuhi may not qualify as full fledged tsundere.
1. Shana
2. Taiga
3. Nagi
4. Louise
=)
Bah, I choose Kugimiya. Done. Well, if it's pure tsundere to be the basis of judgment, I'm gonna have to say Shana suits the term best. She has the least deviations from it. Taiga would be the next candidate, but she's generally tsun towards Ryuuji, then goes dere too much for Kitamura. Nagi gave very little tsun, then is pretty much just dere. Louise is as stated above: "for every one ounce of dere, she delivers seven-fold tsun". Anyway, if we're still talking about Rie, give me a Tanaka as well.
Shana. Taiga is irritating and way too agressive.
alphonse elric
LOL!!!
Comment of the day!!
I verily agree XD
Inside that buffy armour, hides a group of tsundere lolis..