Anime Maker Seeks Arrest of Hyakko Critics

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The maker of nondescript school anime Hyakko may very well be planning to pursue criminal slander charges against persistent online detractors who have been brazen enough to call the not universally well received anime “rubbish”.

Slander is a criminal as well as civil offence in Japan, with substantial prison terms possible.

We see the following exchange in a Hyakko thread:

“Hyakko is a crap anime.”

The response:

“In the Hyakko thread, some guy who called Hyakko crap looks to be getting hit for slander. It’s not surprising, as calling an anime ‘crap’ or ‘rubbish’ is completely slanderous, so if the police come knocking at your door, it’s your own doing.

Don’t blame the guy who reports you, ok?

The poster quotes this mail posted in another thread:

“Thank you for your report.

We think this one is the same person from the last case. They’ve been reported occasionally since around the time the anime started airing.

I get the feeling this malign commenter is operating on the principle of ‘if we call white black enough, eventually the world will think it is grey’. We’ve been in talks with the publisher since they started in December, and discussions with a lawyer specialising in these matters are ongoing. We’re requesting his details with a view to assembling a slander case against him if possible.

I’ve been extremely busy, so unfortunately I’ve not a chance to gather information myself – as a result I’m very grateful for your reports.

If you see any further posts which look like they may be from this person (it doesn’t matter if you’re not sure) or are otherwise similar, please do report them to us. If they’re from the past, that’s ok too.

Thank you very much.”

This mail’s from the makers. You’d better get ready. It’s a real shame, but you went too far, as expected!”

This exchange took place in a Hyakko thread on 2ch. Plenty of astonished responses follow, along with a number praying for the arrest of more wicked Hyakko haters.

Hyakko itself has been the subject of substantial criticism for its mediocre production values, and has not been a substantial success, so the actual criticism of the show is unsurprising.

It looks as though determining the veracity of this apparent suit will be difficult at this stage. The company planning it (presumably Nippon Animation, the makers of Hyakko, or perhaps the production committee) clearly will not let slip that it has such action underway for a variety of reasons.

The actionability of the statements seems plausible enough, although it’s not clear whether calling a title “rubbish” is truly likely to sustain criminal charges – the posters certainly seem to think so. If it is, the 2ch anime boards are likely to become much quieter…

There are any number of incidents where comments on 2ch have led to charges of slander, with prison sentences of over a year reported, though it seems this would be the first case in which a publisher has attempted to silence criticism in the various fan communities present on 2ch.

Certainly, many thin-skinned anime producers would likely want to remove the frequently vitriolic criticism they receive in such venues, which seems often to be inappropriately interpreted, by those perhaps not familiar with the workings of online “debate”, as being akin to traditional calumny.

However, 2ch is not designed or managed with the interests of would be censors in mind, though it certainly does cooperate with law enforcement to an extent.

These kinds of issues are precisely why the management goes to great lengths to shield the boards from legal assault; 2ch founder Hiroyuki has justified this by saying “there is no free speech in Japan”, a reasonable assessment if we consider the effects anti-libel laws have on those not well equipped to defend themselves from such.

Even should this be a fabrication, it is perhaps just as interesting as it represents something of an escalation in anime otaku efforts to defend a favoured series – the battle between pro and anti taken to the level of spreading legal terror in order to quieten detractors of a series; not a positive development by most estimations, although Hyakko fans have been quick to shortsightedly urge the arrest of the anti contingent.

The latest high drama from 2ch, or a chilling effort by a publisher to stifle criticism?


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    Comment by Djisas
    05:57 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really liked the anime thought...

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    Comment by TheAndySan
    15:19 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Me too. Sure it's not the best anime ever, but it's okay.

    You'd think that with the recession and all, the internet wouldn't be serious business anymore. *cue rim shot*

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:55 04/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i like the anime too,

    but one has to say that calling hyakko a "good" anime shows how much the standards have fallen doesn't it?

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:23 27/08/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I liked Hyakko. That jump scene in the beginning brought me to tears lol

    Still, if you don't like something you can express yourself the way you want, including calling something crap. Thumbs down for the publishers for not being able to accept that not everybody will love your stuff...

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    Comment by Miroku74
    05:57 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Oh, FFS! ><

    Honest criticism of an anime is equal to slander? What a fat load of camel shit.

    Now, if the person who made the original assertation of the anime was doing it because he anted to damage the company making Hyakko in some way (ie; a disgruntled ex-employee), *that* I can understand being libel. But targeting legitimate commentors about the anime's quality is just.... too much.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:26 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    While I agree with you, I don't think that I would considering saying "HYAKKO IS SHIT" to be honest criticism.

    Comment by namae
    08:12 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "Hyakko lacks in terms of story, the jokes are cold, and animation looks cheap." in my opinion would be a critic. As it stated fields that it critisizes, while "Hyakko is a crap anime.” is just defaming someone without pointing relevant points.

    Comment by kareal
    09:30 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    look, ignoring your speech rights, "Hyakko is a crap anime" is still NOT defaming it because it's an opinion, people don't just put "I think" everytime they write because it's already implied. If someone's going to bring in the face that it affects the anime sales or anything, then they'd have to also be prepared to counter arguments that say every fucking thing anyone says might or might not have an effect. It's a really, really weak case to bring a lawsuit for. It's not impossible, but it really is....quite pointless, I think.

    Comment by Anon
    09:37 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "You're an idiot and I think you should burn in hell because you're a piece of shit"

    Oh these are all opinions alright, but are they offensive? Yes, and are they illegal? Yes as well. Making something "YOUR OPINION" does not protect you from the law.

    p.s.the quote was not directed to you as I was just trying to make a point. : )

    Comment by kareal
    09:41 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whether it's illegal or not is up to the court, that's what I JUST SAID (in that it's a weak case). Which nation are you residing in anyways? Because to be honest, offensive comments aren't slander, at least not where I live.

    Comment by anon
    21:47 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    use to live in Taiwan where some dude got sued for saying "F ur mom" in public along with some other nasty words/hand signs, and paid a fine of 1 million dollars, which is equal to around 33 thousand USD so yeah... In some country, it is a crime.

    Comment by anon
    21:50 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And btw I do agree with you that it's a weak case. I was just trying to point out that it's your "opinion" does not mean you get to say whatever the hell you want.. : )

    Comment by kareal
    09:37 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know why my previous comment is gone, I'll just repeat it in a simpler way:

    You can't sue people for the effect their opinions on your product have on it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:03 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wait, so you can seriously be sued in Japan for saying something sucks?

    Then again, I guess I'm not being fair, America has had its fair share of attempted lawsuits over someone bagging on a product.

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    Comment by stewie
    06:11 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I personally thought Hyakko was an excellent comedy, probably #2 of the last anime season (behind Kannagi)

    Comment by Oni-kun
    11:31 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you're seriously lacking some good anime Stewie

    Comment by Oni-kun
    11:37 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    you are seriously lacking some good anime...

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    Comment by stewie
    13:44 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What other comedies were there besides
    Kannagi
    Kyo no go no ni
    Akane iro ni somaru saka (?)

    I don't count toradora, skip beat since those are still going.

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    Comment by Jarmel
    14:21 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I wouldn't say it's excellent but it was pretty decent. The animation did get better in later episodes and some of the characters such as Nene were pretty funny.

    Comment by Spoony Bard
    06:28 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't know how the laws in Japan work, but in the U.S. this wouldn't be considered libel nor slander. Thus, they would have no case.

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    Comment by Onsokumaru
    06:30 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This dick deserves to be arrested for not like Hyakko. I laughed my balls off. One of my favorite comedies.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:42 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You need to watch more anime, but then again, if you're enjoying yourself, who cares, right?

    Its still crap, in my honest opinion.

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    Comment by San Celluz
    06:34 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If criticism about "trash anime" is not allowed then the list of them can be veeeeeeeeeeeeeery long and anyway surely Hyakko is not a first rate anime but i liked it more than other surely more famous and with a bigger budget behind them.....

    Comment by TerrawindX2
    22:39 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honestly though, for some reason I'm siding with the prosecutor on this one.

    The commentor was rude and lacks proper criticism. If you enter a restaurant and yelled out loud how the food tastes horrible to himself but delicious to everyone else, surely those who have yet to taste the food would be discouraged from eating there? Thus the owner would surely be heartbroken or mad at the fact that after many years of hard work, his restaurant had been ruined by a mere fool.

    If you think an anime sucks, express yourself discreetly, and after venting out your rage, find the time to point out its flaws like a gentleman. Bear in mind that just because many anime pop out every year, that doesn't mean they're easy to make by the dozen. If you were to be part of the anime industry, and someone said your product sucks in public without any proper reason, then you do have a reason to get mad. Put yourselves in the other person's shoes.

    It would have been easier to say "I don't quite like it". Because that would be an opinion which would be easier to swallow. Saying "it's crap" would not be an opinion, because the sentence does not contain an "I" or an indicator that would state that it's an opinion. It's a blunt statement. The term "it's crap" is descriptive in nature, and saying it to another person would give that person an impression about the object of criticism based on the description.

    Here's an easier example:

    In terms of people, if you say "I think he's gay", then that would be an opinion, which stands to be proven/disproven with no definite conclusion. If you say "He's gay", then that would be an insinuation/accusation/conclusion. Therefore, as a sound individual, learn and mind your language before "accusing" anything based on your own sentiments which nobody cares about.

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    Comment by Tommy
    23:21 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with TerrawindX2 with this one. He have a good point there. We should mind our manner when we are giving our view of something.

    Comment by Anon
    16:05 10/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Its on a message board. It doesn't matter, you have an audience that has likely SEEN it and are debating about it. This very small community is akin to saying to your neighbors some gossip or talking about said restaurant.

    It is not entering and badmouthing it openly. Do not take things to the extremes, censoring thoughts is not right and just because someone doesn't go through the trouble of doing a list of reasons and why, makes it any less of valid opinion.

    A lot of things can be summed up with 'it sucks' then 'Well... firstly I didn't like the...' Especially if the people you are talking to are hardcore fans and like-minded people.

    How many movie critics we have? Alot. Yet who are we more likely to trust, our friends or watch that 15-20 min segment, spoiling the plot from a professional critic?

    I'm getting away from the point now, but I stand that the opinions of one person in proper form should be protected as it is not extreme enough to be called slander on a public forum.

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    Comment by Kageryu
    06:55 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Someone got butthurt...

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    Comment by Jin Stevens
    07:27 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen...

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    Comment by ToastCrust
    07:43 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I can't wait until the Hyakko DVD's are out. Maaaan, one of my top series for Fall 08'.

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    Comment by maxchain
    07:56 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Man, if they were able to do that in the USA, 4chan would be eliminated from existence in a week.

    Comment by Airman
    09:06 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    4chan being gone would be great.

    Comment by moot
    10:07 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    butthurt gaiafag

    Comment by retsnom
    10:15 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking lol'd

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    Comment by Keigami
    08:06 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Honestly the first ep didn't capture my attention or make me laugh what-so-ever. The poor production quality was also another huge fail in my book.
    To each their own though.

    Comment by Garland
    08:10 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why can't they just settle it outside the forums? Bare-fisted knucklefight? Mudwrestling? Pin the breasts on the dfc?

    Comment by Ichigo69
    01:38 10/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Ok... I lol'd at this....

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    Comment by rargy
    08:13 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The animation wasn't that great but it was still funny, especially episode 11.

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    Comment by tingle
    08:16 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I still say CODE GAESS IS RUBBISH!

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    Comment by dmil666
    08:16 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Prosecution merely for stating one's opinion seems a bit over the top to me. I watched Hyakko and it was pretty good as comedies go. I doubt it will win any awards, but it was ok.

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:20 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hyakko was fun, in some cases more so than other series with short cast member

    Comment by Mechwarrior
    08:34 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hyakko is a piece of shit anime.
    Come get me, you fucks at NipponAni.

    Im glad I live in the United States, that shit wont fly here.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:15 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Well Mech, Enjoy being in the United States

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/Toxic-Toy-Law-Threatens-Local-Businesses.html

    Comment by 8子
    17:31 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i live in SD too! 858 yoo

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:11 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude I freaking loved Hyakko! Torako and Suzu made it for me. The beginning may have been dry but like after the 3rd ep it or something it really turned around.

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    Comment by Mike
    09:32 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hyakko was awesome. I don't get some people.

    Comment by kenjiharima
    09:48 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah me too. It was a great.

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    Comment by Icy-nee-san
    09:54 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How can you not like hyakko? I showed it to my anime-hating friends and they though it was the funniest anime they ever saw, except for one guy because he watched Azumanga Diaoh, but you all get the point XD

    Comment by Kev
    13:11 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yep I get it, your point is Hyakko only appeals to people that watches little to no anime, because every other anime is funnier then Hyakko.

    Comment by retsnom
    10:17 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Hyakko is pretty damn mediocre for a slice of life. While I wouldn't say that it was SHIT, I will say that I couldn't watch it past 4 episodes.

    Comment by ButChi
    11:30 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If a series was that bad then just stop watching/buying it's merchandise then the company would be gone for good.
    btw Then anime was great, its the only series I watch weekly last season.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:44 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Seriously, some people have...."unique" taste.





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