TV Censorship: It Could Be Worse…


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    Comment by zonic505
    12:10 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    America: where we're OK with showing kids how people are killed, but not how they're made.

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    Comment by Anonymous
    15:53 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It is called "Adult" swim because the adults show to the children what they must see.
    It is a slap to all the adults who see Cartoon Butchkwork.

    Comment by Erml
    14:37 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Mmm puritanism. You can stab shoot and sometimes even decapitate someone but by god if someone flashes a nipple or says a dirty word.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:32 22/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    From my perspective the reason the U.S doesn't censor violence but they censor nudity and language is due to conditioning. Nudity and foul language have no real practical use in society. But violence on the other hand does.

    Based on this site: http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html [http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html] "The average child will watch 8,000 murders on TV before finishing elementary school. By age eighteen, the average American has seen 200,000 acts of violence on TV, including 40,000 murders."

    My rational here is that all this violence on TV is to condition people starting in their youth to be desensitized to violence. This can be used as a practical application when recruiting for the military. Throw a person raised on american TV into a war and the sight of blood, death, violence can be tolerated by their mind. Throw a person who was not raised on TV's violence into a war and chances are good their mind won't be able to handle such violence and they will end up a vegetable or something, hence they would not make good soldiers.

    Nudity and swearing don't have such practical applications that I can think of. So it's censored. If violence didn't have this practical use I am almost sure it would be censored as well. It's all about society's way of molding the minds of the people. ALL aspects of TV, not just violence has some from of subconscious conditioning. (whether it's intentional or not). I think violence in america has been around so long and is so common place that people accept is as normal. They don't even perceive it at a conscious level.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:34 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I will download the dvdrip episodes because I do not want moralfaqs to tell me what to look, I´m not a TV idiot.
    if you change the channel you take away the power of those bastards.

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    Comment by KajunBowser
    08:53 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not surprising. Sure, add more steam into the shot, but the fact of the matter is that America has censorship problems and they don't focus on the major censorship problems. We seem to only care when children could see or hear it, it's for political expediency, or to be an absolute douchebag and get 15 mins of fame.

    The way they treat anime in general is criminal, dub or sub. Hell, you got shows on TV now that should raise outrage, but they can't touch the big corps. because they have D.C. in their back pockets. But just a little top, nipple-less boob makes them further blur it out in Code Geass; Family Guy had an episode where they went out of their way to animate side-boob moments, not a peep. You can't even order manga from Japan anymore without being concerned whether the po-po show up @ your door because someone in customs thinks a 20 year old in a provocative situ looks like s/he is 15, like some guy in Iowa found out.

    It's gonna get worse before it gets better, and we've got four years to see just how bad.

    Comment by RyoBase
    07:43 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's a prove that US is sucks. Can't they just add more fog of censorship into it?

    Comment by dees
    07:54 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    good thing we have the internet, because shitty television is shitty

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    Comment by Keigami
    08:14 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In general all dubs are evil. All shows/movies should be watched subbed and preserved in their original language.

    Comment by TinTwit
    11:25 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not the dub that's the problem. The DVD release is uncensored. The problem is the censorship in the broadcast.

    The dub isn't even in question here.

    Comment by Ichigo69
    Comment by Anonymous
    08:15 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    useless parents that don't want to raise there own children is the problem.. i have an aunt that just sits her kids in front of the tv with CN on ignores them.. and tehn she'ed be the type to get pissed if they show or say something... sad sad world

    Comment by radical anime fan
    01:52 08/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Be glad; at least it's not a straight black bar.

    Comment by imhgtsukishiro
    15:49 04/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's countries like these that start the false notion that anime is only for children. It's CARTOONS THAT ARE FOR CHILDREN, not anime.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:54 04/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    USA = open-minded hypocrites

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:09 30/09/2016 # ! Neutral (0)

    Crazy americans.

    Comment by HellsShadow
    17:29 14/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gawd i remember looking up the japanese episode to see what i missed, because of the censorship and i remember the huge disappointment it gave me when i realized that there wasnt really anything under that blur. I felt like shooting adult swim right in the face.

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    Comment by unicogirl
    19:43 04/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's post like this that really show the stupidity of the anime fandom.

    1) Adult Swim / Cartoon Network. Does not control the content of the shows they buy, they don't edit anything, they don't dub anything.

    2) You're complaining about a blur? While the rest of the show is uncut?

    3) What was the purpose of this blog entry?
    How many "outraged" fans, actually intend to buy the DVD?

    ====

    And this is the most worn out tired argument on the net, and I'm getting sick of it.

    "America: where we’re OK with showing kids how people are killed, but not how they’re made." - by zonic505

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    Comment by unicogirl
    19:46 04/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    So why is it amusing for people to see Japanese censor anime, yet this is enough to cause you all to spaz like a cat on acid?

    thank gawd I'm not an otaku.

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    Comment by Artefact

    What are you talking about? Do you like censored anime?

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    Comment by unicogirl
    13:04 09/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Usually networks have their own set of rules.
    It's quite mixed up, and no one does the same thing twice.

    I agree that "culture is not above criticism"
    But people seem to focus on one as being the main problem. When every culture is different.

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    Comment by Artefact

    I think the point is that most are critical of the reluctance of US networks to approach sex; culture is not above criticism.

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    Comment by unicogirl
    11:44 06/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really don't care.

    If a DVD is uncut, then what are the complaints about? Even anime airing in Japan is censored. A manga to anime can completely cut out what was in the manga to make it suitable on TV.

    Every country has their own standards for what can be show on television. To focus on one as the end all evil, is just stupid to me.

    I like anime, just not enough to kick and scream about not being able to see animated boobs.
    I can be disappointed with censorship or edits, but I will never be angry about it.

    What annoys me, is that people think the anime airing on networks, are censored by the people who work on the network. And that isn't true.
    Bandai bought the rights to CG - they are not editors or dubbers of the show. That is an entirely different studio.

    CN doesn't give a crap about cleavage showing on daytime TV.

    Comment by shirokiryuu
    05:40 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I honestly don't mind censoring anime, as long it's not detrimental to the plot. But still, I still more objectional stuff on a episode of say.. Desperate Housewives that airs waay earlier than Code Geass

    Comment by Minaru
    21:19 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I don't remember those screenshots in Code Geass or R2

    Where are those photos from?!

    Comment by blinx01
    00:46 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The other screens are from the Picture Drama's which were included on the DVD release of Code Geass.

    Comment by Spoony Bard
    21:13 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    God, if they do this to a scene like that, I'd hate to see what happens if a website like this is shown to one of our politicians..

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    Comment by Artefact

    I'm sure those politicians will be outraged when they finally come to hear of porn on the Internet.

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    Comment by Goodbad
    23:05 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What? Porn on the internet, where?!

    Comment by nooneofconsequence
    23:13 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Politicians don't care unless...

    1. They start receiving complaints from constituents.

    2. They start receiving money from their other constituents, lobbyists.

    3. They sense a cause they can jump on that can help either their reelection chances or status in government.

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    And why are people making a fuss over censorship in a show that runs a late night time slot when there is a uncensored DVD release available through both legal and illegal channels?

    If the censored version was the only version available outside of Japan, then there would be a problem.

    Comment by Ichigo69
    02:09 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not so much the censorship that's the issue, it's the hypocricy. It's like Role said:

    'The US, despite being a cesspool of depravity, really puts an unproportionate focus on anything that shows skin. Put on a show that insults veterans, is riddled with blood gore and violence, and has a boob shot, and what gets all the attention? The boob shot. The MINOR thing.'

    Priorities are in the toilet. IOW, Public Nudity is anathema... everything else is fine lol.

    Sigh, desu~

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    Comment by metatron
    20:47 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It happens everywhere as long as there are conservatives living...

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:19 22/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No...

    It happens when Parental Liberals and Conservatives are busy pushing their morals because they say it is morally wrong. It'll happen so long as people don't use their brains and feel the need for law to step in for 'morals' and kids.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:48 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, sure, conservatives.

    Forget that the Parents Music Resource Center was founded by Tipper Gore in 1985, Bill Clinton signed the Communications Decency Act in 1996, and Hilary Clinton lead the charge against [the hacked] Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

    Whenever censorship happens in the US make no mistake. There is typically one kind of person behind it: busybody nanny-state know-nothings on both sides of the coin.

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    Comment by Michio
    00:46 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Indeed. Let's not get too attached to stereotypes. People on both sides fight these kinds of things, it's just ignorant people in general, political affiliation is irrelevant.

    Comment by anon
    20:20 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    In this country where I am, they cut off parts of the scene.

    Comment by RR
    21:19 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Thx god that I live in EU

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:39 23/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Problem here is that the TV networks are afraid of getting sued by some group of femanazis or investigated by the FCC.

    I dont think the main concern of the groups is the actual showing of skin its the objectification of women which is kinda dumb considering anime offten objectifies them far less than 90% of the MSM.

    the other problem is the femanazis shouldn't be allowed to complain at all if you dont want your kids seeing it dont let them watch it its not that difficult its not like they go to school and watch this stuff its what they do in their free time or its what you let them do in their free time most of them flip on the TV to get the kids out of their hair if you are worried about what their watching then pay fucking attention better yet educate them. its not like thes shows are teaching them to have sex. which is more than i can say for alot of other shows on network tv.

    Protip:treat your kids like they are mature, and teach them to be mature, and they will act mature.

    okay im done rambaling if that made any sense then good if not then oh well

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    Comment by paul
    23:02 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    as long as america and those stupid politicians and stupid mothers that complain all better tv for our kids then we will never see this on tv

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:39 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking soccer moms. Ruining TV for EVERYONE.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:20 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It's not the soccer moms. It's the protestant ideals that America was founded on.

    It makes anything dealing with nudity and sex taboo and nobody will change their mind about it.

    Comment by BuggyBY
    05:08 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think you mean puritan ideals. Look at Germany, quite a protestant nation itself. One German TV commercial for shower gel a few years ago featured a huge crowd of butt naked adults running around in the rain, with boob and butt shots galore, and nobody so much as batted an eyelid. This commercial was aired during afternoon timeslots, too (during broadcasts of The Simpsons, for example), when children would be likely to be watching.

    Comment by Gaijinsmash
    10:58 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    http://www.schnittberichte.com/page.php?Show=Serie&TID=2021 [http://www.schnittberichte.com/page.php?Show=Serie&TID=2021]

    for the lulz

    Comment by Anonymous
    08:20 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Of course, speaking of German censorship, they are infamous for the horrendous Naruto editing. Totally editing out Zabuza's sword aside from the hilt to make it look like some ridiculous staff, changing blood falling onto the ground to look like tears, it exceeds 4Kids in bullshit censorship, which is quite a feat.

    It's simply the opposite in Germany, they don't mind the nude human body, but weapons and blood are a big taboo during child watching times. Both ways is stupid as hell.

    Comment by blinx01
    20:04 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That's just awful. They could have at least gave that effect to the entire image and then it would have looked like she was behind a tinted shower door rather than some of the worst censoring I've seen.
    I also don't see what the point is. There's no nipples on display and this is aired on Adult Swim late at night...

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:52 05/09/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Have you ever seen 4kid's one piece? I have never seen a great anime such as that turned into a worthles pile of garbage. I watched that as a kid and i actually said "this show is crappy garbage". Then mah friend told me to watch the jap one and i got addicted. But for me A KID they're audience to think they're show sucks...You know they fucked up.

    Comment by Tomo-pyon
    18:59 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Geass is airing on Cartoon Network. Obviously, they censor :.

    Comment by tigeros
    10:37 11/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    they also cut out the scene right before it where the shot moves up Kallen's body. Instead you just see it freeze in place at her feet and you can tell it's a freeze then a cut of her head pops in and the scene continues. They also censored CC's in R2 in the first episode as she awakens Lelouch's memory.

    Comment by Role
    19:45 06/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, on their ADULT SWIM lineup. If you're letting kids watch that, you FAIL as a parent. The US, despite being a cesspool of depravity, really puts an unproportionate focus on anything that shows skin. Put on a show that insults veterans, is riddled with blood gore and violence, and has a boob shot, and what gets all the attention? The boob shot. The MINOR thing.

    As such, I stand by my saying: "Never underestimate the stupidity of humanity."

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    Comment by Sorrior
    05:56 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Heres my families take on the absurdity of censoreing in america (and yes i'm american) Blood gore go on kiddies it's good for you. OMBFG IT'S A SIDE SHOT OF A BREAST HIDE THE KIDS CALL THE MILITARY WE MUST HUNT DOWN AND KILL THOSE CORRUPTING OUR CHILD THEY ARNE'T EVEN HUMAN. Thus the horror of censoring in america However the us dvd's are still nice and uncenored well except for a few things things which are mainly translation problems like when kallen says in episode 2 or 3 i'llshow you what this mother fucker can do they just say mother. Total bs and paranoia. We have more problems with excessive violence than good old nude shots we'll more like my parents with the vilence i say everything is golden. Just cause t's on dosn't mean i have to watc it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:30 07/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This man speaks truth.





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