Epic vs Enix

cliffyb-vs-nomura

Veteran Final Fantasy designer Tetsuya Nomura, of Square Enix, is here pitted against veteran Gears of War designer Cliff Bleszinski, of Epic Games. Both now have careers on rather similar footings, though their design styles could not be further removed from one another.

It may be rather trite, but this definitely appears to be a case of East vs West; both styles are almost bordering on the absurd, although they do not necessarily look the worse for it.

The text accompanying each just gives their career outlines, and insists on telling us Nomura’s bloodtype…

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    Comment by onitake
    01:13 05/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    only voted for cliff out of protest.
    i find bishounen of the recent final fantasy variant utterly boring, even disgusting.

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    Comment by Daisuke.exe
    16:03 05/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Fucking Tetsuya Nomura.

    He's a freakin' genius.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:29 09/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And you're fucking retarded.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:51 06/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    that or you're fucking retarded for think he's fucking retarded.

    who knows?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:22 22/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    That or you're fucking retarded for saying he's fucking retarded for thinking Daisuke.exe is fucking retarded.

    I know.

    Comment by unicogirl
    22:59 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    over the years, i started to notice how "cookie cutter" Enix's designs are. practically all the characters look the same, they just have different hair.

    Comment by plmko
    13:59 05/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah and like GoW designs arn't just Unreal Tournament and Warhammer 40,000 designs, right?

    Comment by Lespectraal
    21:44 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    It has to be Cliff Blezinski. But the other gay got more votes but it doesn't matter because this comparison is, not, how do you say... right.

    Comment by Anonymous
    05:56 01/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i figure out Nomura likes beautiful men.
    you guys are gays, really.

    Comment by Edward
    11:26 20/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I just think that Cliff Bleszinski is a wacko.

    Then again, so is Numora.

    Comment by kyo
    21:50 10/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I choose tetsuya.

    cuz I'm a weaboo!

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:03 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Bleszinski makes too manly, I like traps.

    Comment by Anonymous
    14:13 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    My vote goes to Cliffy B. He wears pimp suits to E3 because he can.

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    Comment by stewie
    14:49 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude Huge, please =p

    Comment by Hypernova
    19:13 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree with many people here who said that both design serve their purpose. I am not a fan of FF so I won't comment on that, but CliffB said himself that they only have bulky soldier because the locust kill everyone who are not that big. I mean, if you ask me, I agree that only the guys who are THAT tough will survive in that world.

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:08 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    While I love prettyboy designs in Japanese games as much as the next person, those closeup pics are absolutely horrid. They're deformed beyond belief; it's not pretty, it's comical. And not in a "funny ha ha" way.

    Comment by Kaisos
    17:16 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Does anyone know what game/movie the Nomura designs are from...?

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:44 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nomura's designs = Win.

    Square's animation of his designs: *groan*

    I'll pay 1,000 dollars to anyone who teaches Squenix that you must animate both the mouth AND the eyes to portray emotions (i.e. eyes squint when smiling, cheek muscles pull upward, etc.). Until then these designs are going to be wasted on models with all of the emotional appeal of androgynous fuck-dolls.

    As for Cliffy B: bitch has a serious hard-on for steroid-choked linebackers, I cannot deny this. They're ugly as sin, admittedly, but at least they don't appear to be mildly retarded (see ridiculous expression 1,2 and 3 from Nomura's side).

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:06 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    "i.e. eyes squint when smiling, cheek muscles pull upward, etc.)"
    Sounds Asian.

    Comment by OmniStrata
    02:24 02/03/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    If the gears dudes more resembled the more 'believably' lean warriors in the 300 movie... [aka genuinely fit fighters vs. over abused steroid pushers]

    I vote gears. I'd rather have manly men save the world over ambiguously designed, she-men...

    Then again, to us, that's normal, but to Japanese people, being manly makes you gay? erm...

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:34 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nomura hasn't ever designed a decent looking character. It's either over-complication with his designs or the same thing over and over.

    Give me Yoshida and be fucking done with it.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:03 28/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Most of the arguments here either vote for GoW because they are macho men, or FFXIII because it's FF. And the GoW fanboys are the ones raging.

    Maybe this isn't a good comparison of character choice, but it's pretty clear that the only differentiation between character design in GoW are their heads, even if they are wearing armor because they're in a war. Their heads don't look too different from each other to me. A little palette swap here, more facial hair there, give this guy a head accessory, it's like playing with dress-up dolls.

    And while the argument is made that Nomura characters tend to be androgynous looking, at least there is design differentiation. He goes for more casual and contemporary-inspired styles because, as can be seen in the GoW picture, giving everyone the same armor makes the design look plain.

    It's really a contest between age, and burliness.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:03 27/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Dude Huge because his characters are the kind of guys the first GoW would sit and have a beer with. God knows what the GoWs would do to Tetsuya's characters...

    Comment by Anonymous
    00:14 22/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nomura wins, he's got variety among characters (even though it's lazy), their bodies are anatomically correct. But most importantly, his works have made/remained in history.

    But even though Nomura wins, I'll say character designers have gotten lazy.

    You can't get good character design by simply using a stereotyping cookie-cutter machine.

    Most of the things we tend to "inherently" know about gender are the works of XVII century moral philosophy.

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:18 27/01/2012 # ! Neutral (0)

    Juicer's vs. Boy Band. No matter who wins, we lose.

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:36 23/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    The two producers faces alone tells the tail why one is EPIC and one is ENIX.

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    Comment by Azure Xuchilbara
    16:37 23/06/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    To be honest, I wouldn't mind having an orgy with the guys on the right, since they don't look like roid-induced gorillas who just got out of prison after f*cking the warden with their feet and fisting the guards...

    I love GOW because of the gore and the awesome weapons, but I just can't fap to Marcus and Co...Hell, the locusts look more sexy than them (or maybe I'm just into that sh*t, yes..?) by sexual comparison...

    That said, I love muscular men, but with bishounen faces~

    Comment by Anonymous
    18:19 13/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    I feel sorry for those of you who call Nomuras's characters androgynous and can't tell the difference between his male of female characters, seriously you phail as males, how can you not notice the delicious female traits, is beyond me... anyway they are both good games, but eastern games tend to have more focus on character development, so the choice is quite obvious.

    Comment by Ozno
    23:58 25/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    What's the name of the game on the picture by Tetsuya's Side? :O

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    Comment by Shino
    08:08 24/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Holy fuck.

    Nomura is just as pretty as his art LOL.

    Comment by Anonymous
    09:29 24/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I've never wanted a third option more than before now :|

    It's amazing how the majority of popular games from either side of the world are full with dull and typical character designs.

    Examples of character designs I do like from either side of the world: Nintendo and EA Big.

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    Comment by vin-nii
    18:59 27/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Looks vs. Muscle?

    definitely the looks XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:47 07/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Personally Gears of War and Final Fantasy are both good games. No offence most of y'all shouldn't argue just 'cause of the way they look or comparing the design to reality.

    Its a game nothing more.

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:08 19/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I like how not only the Japanese characters, but even the Japanese developer looks female.

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:31 19/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    All I can see is 4 excellent gay couples... Honestly, it's like the 4 right exist to "receive" from the 4 on the left if-you-know-what-i-mean... ¬_¬

    Comment by Rakushu
    06:23 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    WTF! Epic is losing... I have to say I like what Tetsuya Nomura does, but I really prefer my GOW.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:32 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Programs are as far removed from one another as you can get, you have the unreal engine which is an epic original vs whatever the enix/insert random name engies since there are like 15 of them.

    One is probaly the greatest user/player/corporation type engine ever created since every computer/console type system wants to have and want to be like it

    vs

    the tried and test and much loved enix system. again its all in context.

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    Comment by ArcheR
    06:34 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The second FF character face... The guy on the far left in the group pic... His face reminds me of the Blue Link crossplayer.

    http://www.dsfanboy.com/2008/03/04/female-duo-sets-the-standard-for-link-cosplay/2

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    Comment by snakechimera
    06:11 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Excessively manly vs. excessively girly.....you know what...I dunno

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    Comment by kebrus
    06:21 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    since when mainly means arms bigger than your head?

    and wouldn't say excessively girly, probably more excessively gayish...

    Comment by Shimu
    12:08 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    How's it not manly lol

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:02 22/05/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    check history, when professional gyms started they were generally associated with gay culture.

    I don't see a difference between fixation with male body sculpting and male face aesthetics. they both seem pointing towards excessive image fixation.

    and don't think body sculpting is manly, to achieve most of the muscles you need to be on a diet (even stricter for 6 packs), do stretching (and embarrassing exercise postures), wear tight clothes, your butt will lift up, your breasts will buff etc.

    Trust me, I frequent a gym and seeing buff men looking with admiration at body-builder posters or measuring other gym friends muscles is far from being manly.

    Gym doesn't lengthen your d..k, make your voice stronger nor your gestures manlier. It only gives you physical strength, I think that's something to be proud and somewhat biologically manly, and FF character don't falter on that.

    Comment by Phazeshift
    06:06 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nomura wins by default for providing me 98 hours of entertainment in Dissida so far.

    Comment by Tempy
    06:27 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Nomura was only responsible for character designs in Dissidia. He was not a game designer or director for that project.

    Comment by Phazeshift
    12:13 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    The character designs were what kept me interested :D

    Comment by kareal
    06:35 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    fuck, that's why I hate these comparisons

    THEY'RE NOT EVEN IN THE SAME GENRE OR CREATED FOR THE SAME PURPOSE. STOP COMPARING THEM YOU IDIOTS.

    and whoever said they have Dissidia, damn you, damn you to hell.

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    Comment by Artefact

    Who cares - put those pictures side by side and compare away...

    Comment by Tempy
    06:52 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Compare what exactly?

    The suggestion of this article is to compare character designs or maybe even visual design as whole, but the poll options only make sense if we're comparing Bleszinski and Nomura's skills and experience in game design.

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    Comment by Kabayongtao
    03:25 04/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sigh, you guys are really spoiling the fun when you point out too much details.

    You don't even need to get serious about such trivial things. Geez~

    Comment by Comment
    12:02 19/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    This was not a comparison. This was a blatant slaughter for the satisfaction of the Otaku fanbase residing here.

    Let us understand the simple rules of arithmetic within this Complex:

    Anything Eastern > Anything Western

    Comment by Tempy
    07:00 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm just going to throw my hands up in the air and say that Nomura is a more attractive guy than CliffyB.

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    Comment by ArcheR
    06:53 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    No, it suggest what style we like better.

    Comment by kareal
    08:26 03/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Artefact: well, sure, you can do that to anything, I just can't shake off the frustration that this is another one of those West versus East shitty comparisons, that's all. To be honest in real life either would pretty out of place, but it's not like either's so fucking ridiculous (well, the muscles...maybe, but I've seen guys with nearly that much muscle). There's really nothing to compare with because neither is IN reality, so I just think it's stupid to compare the two because they don't even relate.







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