“Japan Lags in Loli Ban” – UNICEF Lies Exposed?

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Finding themselves with nothing better to do for the moment, Japan’s politicians have been generating political capital by humouring moralist groups such as UNICEF, who have launched a hysterical crusade against what they see as lax laws on the part of Japan.

An opposition diet member (of the Koumeito – a major religious party run by a Buddhist sect) recently petitioned the government for even more laws, meaning against loli manga and similar: “We’d like the government to assist with all its energy in bringing these laws to pass” – and Prime Minister Rozen Aso, himself having a Catholic background, responded positively “We must proactively deliberate upon the matter”.

Rather more interesting than the vapid posturing of politicians out for their names is the critical response we see on the Internet, particularly on 2ch. A quite extensive body of statistics and other evidence disputing the anti-freedom of expression camp has come to be commonly presented, so looking at some of this is probably of interest.

I should caution that these statistics are assembled by partisans (just as are those assembled by the other side of the argument); since you can read the scaremongering side of things anywhere, not least on UNICEF’s pages, here I only present evidence (accredited, of course) from 2ch:

UN Statistics for 2000: Rapes per 100,000 people:

Canada 78.08 “Simple Possession”, Loli Manga Banned
Australia 77.79 “Simple Possession”, Loli Manga De Jure Banned
USA 32.05 “Simple Possession”, Loli Manga Banned (Constitutionally Invalid)
Sweden 24.47 “Simple Possession”, Loli Manga Banned
UK 16.23 “Simple Possession”, Loli Manga, BDSM to be Banned
France 14.36 “Simple Possession”
S. Korea 12.98 “Simple Possession”
Germany 9.12 “Simple Possession”
Russia 4.78
Taiwan 4.08
Japan 1.78 “Simple Possession” (Just introduced)

“Simple Possession” laws refer to just possessing pictures being a crime – actually producing/distributing the pictures is a crime in all these jurisdictions.

Note that the selection of countries here is provided by 2ch (I added in Australia as it is of interest), and so naturally has an agenda. See them for yourself, or alternatively check the UNSD.

It seems that it is the rest of the world which lags Japan…

Does Child Pornography Foster Sex Crime?

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Source: National Police Agency – Rape Statistics

Total Crimes Minors Under Primary School Age Primary School Middle School Minors Over Middle School Age
1960 2533 54 428 479 1572
1965 3135 76 414 626 2019
1970 1996 29 169 274 1524
1975 3704 1718 29 225 308 1156
1980 2610 1117 19 143 210 745
1985 1802 855 4 126 224 501
1990 1548 702 2 55 91 554
1995 1500 606 1 45 71 489
2000 2260 1006 4 60 146 796
2005 2076 875 3 41 165 666
2006 1948 808 3 46 151 608

“Loli material, whether as young idols, loli manga, eroge or similar, only started to become common in Japan during the mid 1980s. The first ban of such material was in 1999.”

“You may be able to trick people starved of information, but you can’t trick the Net.”


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    Comment by Sakura
    21:06 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    nooooooooooooooooo >.<

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:08 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    They're wrong now, they were wrong before:

    http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2006/1011roberts.html

    And something about how UNICEF 'denied' promoting contraceptives and abortions:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/waronfamily/unicef/unicef.pdf

    Comment by maglor
    21:15 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not only are they wrong, they usually provide 'cover' for Western corporations who would drive millions to starvation for small increase in profit margin.

    Comment by BuggyBY
    01:31 17/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    While I applaud their previous stance on abortion and contraceptives, less so their current denial of it, they are the lowest of the low on my personal scale for thinking that 2D fictional characters should have any sort of human rights accorded to them.

    Comment by doooom
    11:38 16/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    i agree there just fuckign fictional cartoon characters i mena there not even self aware computer prograsm so y shoudl they need rights if u ask em i think the world still just thinks that seeing images of loli will turn ppl pedophile in same way they think violence on tv or in movies will make ppl violent in general

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:19 30/06/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    even tho the human race has some what mellowed since those inventions

    Comment by wudntuwannaknow

    They weren't wrong before and they aren't wrong now. Lolicon is corrupt and so are you. i'm not sayin that cos i dont like you, im sayin that cos its the truth. You might think that just because you have all found each other due to 21st century internet, that it means you can group together. you probably even feel encouraged by what you think you are because others are joining up on your gallery-filled lolicon forums.

    Problem is, it's now very easy to identify all of you. with you're pedobear symbol (which isn't exactly a less aggressive psuedonym than "pedophile" as he rapes fictional children, if you'd gone along with the butterfly peace loli/pedo symbol, then it would be different)

    You all feel confidant saying things on the internet, because you can say it from behind your screens, in your bedroom. this is false confidance.

    Thing is, you're all frustrated, because you all know why UNICEF are urgently fighting it, and not other organisations. because they recognise the truth about lolicon and its clear-as-day-light obvious assocation to sex with children.

    Let's come off it boys, it's not about harming or "making love" with real children. its the sexual attraction itself.

    it's only because Japan didn't act against the rising number of erotic manga artists in the late 1960's. They'll defend that it keeps the sickos/deviants at bay. This eventually

    Because this would imply only existing within your life, which doesn't involve harm to anyone else, you will argue that it infringes your humans rights. But the human rights act is flawed because it is not paired with human responsibility. Because it isn't paired, people, and terrorists are able to exploit the act.

    And some of you are very easy to read, sayin things like "i love UNICEF but hate how they want lolicon out" - sounding as if you're completely obvlivious to its controversy. And you want to try to sound good by saying you're "up" for UNICEF.

    It may be true, that for some, or many, lolicon does tap into the sexual spectrum, to the nth degree. It even makes sense to be attracted to children, whether they are real or fictional.

    What I hate about you followers is that I know exactly why you like hentai, and the pretentious responses I always get back are really annoying.

    you all know it's a fact that the Japanese are a very exotic sexually charged culture. You all know that most of hentai is about making the characters cute, fresh, innocent, healthy and even in some cases, premature. It was interesting to see how it started off as regular adult hentai, and over recent times, it's become much more graphic, much better quality, much much younger and more confidant about its sexual intentions.

    I know full well that the author of all the lolicon images and stories published them intentionally for all pedophiles, and lolicons (which is basically a pedophile but in the world of fantasy and imagination).

    I'm really glad that finally, it has become against the law to view or possess/publish lolicon pictures, because quite frankly, i've become very cheesed off with some of you people defending your guilty pleasure with all your life's might. and it really annoys me when you paste pictures of graphs depicting the decline of criminal offences due to the availability of lolicon. its a joke. how do you know it decreased because of the existence of lolicon? tell you now, you choose things, and ignore everything else, and that is very faulty.

    you're just Trying to make it less about the core issue of sex with minors, and more about people not being fair with you or saying the positive effects on society it can bring. please!

    The weird thing is, is that most pictures I have seen of lolicon depicting sex with a 7year old girl, is that most of them depict the girl crying, or looking guilty. so it's almost as if some of you are wanting to see this kind of stuff, but with FORCE involved. So honestly people, there's no credibility in supporting lolicon. I'm not saying that it isn't sexy - it probably is. but the ideal that it depicts, is extremely dangerous, especially when these sexual ideals are put onto the internet for it to breed within other cultures.

    It isn't fair for those people that find it extremely unnerving, offensive. and even worse for those people who do like it, develop a habit for it, and become addicted themselves. Psycho-sexual disorders are on the rise. and I wouldn't be surprised if it was become of lolicon, and pornography in general.

    The guy who thinks that the reality / fantasy boundry is true. you're the one thats crazy, you are totally ignoring the effect on society. you know its controvertial yet you make it seem like its natural. you're totally acting as if this ban is completely crazy and absurd.

    You can be a lolikon or a toddlercon or whatever you want to be, but you should keep it to yourselves. I wouldn't say even viewing it and masturbating to it, which is what you do, is bad, but PUBLISHING them, and sharing them with others on the internet, is influencing other people. and you're all doing it in public view. your fantasies should stay within your own circle of influence, that way, you're only taking your own responsibility.

    THUMBS UP TO BAN ON LOLICON - makes me so happy.

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    Comment by Artefact

    Long troll is long.

    Comment by Anonymous
    11:32 14/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Wow don't need to say much to this except that you say we are trying to justify sex with minors when said minors exist only in a fictional realm! I do not condone sex with children because personally besides the implied age I find no similarities between real children and lolicon children to me are just...well kids but when I see a loli picture I don't see a child I see a FICTIONAL CHARACTER and I do find these characters physically attractive but since these fictional characters are depicted to be minors you jump to the conclusion that I am attracted to real children which is far from true and not only that but you also think that at any moment I might fly off the handle in some random act of crazed sex hungry pedophilia, which is even further from the truth. As for the fact that you express that the ban "Makes you so happy" it just proves even further to me and I'm sure others reading this that you say this not because you think it is harming anyone but because you as a person disapprove of it which is unfair and unjust, so in conclusion next time you call me a Terrorist back it up with valid facts.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:09 08/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    one word

    OWNED

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    Comment by Halconnen
    02:30 01/01/2009 # ! Neutral (+0.2)

    Right.

    So, explain to me in words that -I- can understand why:

    - I think loli is hot.

    - Imagining something even remotely similar being done to real children triggers a quite intense gag reflex and makes -more- alarm bells go off in my head than the current data retention law talks do.

    In fact, I like to avoid real children, regardless of gender or whatnot, because they tend to, in most cases, annoy the living hell out of me.

    I do not really see a connection between liking loli and being an actual pedophile. That's the "Splatter movies make you a mass murderer" argument. I do however agree that some of the stuff seems to outright pander to actual pedophiles. I do not even touch those doujins/whatever with a ten foot pole.

    Then again, I do not understand a lot of things. Like why I'm trying to write a serious response to an obvious troll.

    Ah hell.

    Comment by Cool Story Teller, Older Brother
    20:21 01/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    cool story, bro

    Comment by Oneiros
    00:14 14/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    tl;dr

    Well actually I did.

    I would recommend recommend Joel Feinberg's "Moral Limits of Criminal Law" to remedy your ignorance of the concepts of harm and offense. I assure you that it is relatively accessible to a lay audience.

    And seriously... terrorists? Are you fucking comparing terrorists to lolicons? That sounds like a cheap rhetorical tactic only ten-year olds would use.

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    Comment by Aeromax
    03:30 08/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    0/10

    Comment by ANON
    02:15 16/04/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Another Anon posted this a while ago.

    The cuteness, naiveness, and playfulness of the girl involved makes it delicious. The sight of her beautiful, adorable loli body which is just starting to develop makes it delicious. Imagining having sex with such a girl who, because of her age and current level of mental development would have the significance and pleasure of the act magnified by a ton for her, and by seeing this for you as well makes it delicious. It is just so natural. So innocent So pure. To completely forget yourself and rediscover your own inner child and innocence while the girl looks at you with her smiling, willing, and understanding face while the ugly and unaccepting world around you melts away just feels oh so right. That beats normal, dull, mundane sex with some typical girl around your own age who is only interested in maturity and commitment, takes the act with a grain of salt, and wouldn't understand any of this any day, even if it is only imaginary.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:13 08/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    100% true
    anyone who disagrees has no heart, i swear

    Comment by lelouch11
    10:43 05/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    but its not something that can spread, a normal person sees something like that and says "eeeewww.....wtf!?? ur fucking sick man!"
    if he has underage raper potential (hes atracted to underage school girls/boys) then it givs him some less violent and less rapeful way of settisfing his dark raper desires.

    if they have no porn, they will look at the neighboors daughter or my daughter at school or even yours.....and fap it while thinking of HER.
    i sleep much better knowing the rapers think of animeted children rather than real children when they fap it.

    in my opinion,its a desiase that cant be treated by the ban of loli since loli is a distraction from real humans.

    if u want to protect children,dig deeper banning loli is a short term solution(god forbid it might rise back to 1965's figures after the "stay low" shock expires in a few years)

    i think better than ban loli,make punishment laws much harsher forcing pedophiles to be sufficient with loli or spend their life in prison(sheperding them to harmless activities by enforcing harsh laws should work better than taking away the only harmless solution which is loli,i do not consider them imagening things to be harmless since they would rather imagine real human figures THAT THEY KNOW when imagening and that is not harmless at all!!!)

    the reason i think loli is the best go at pacifing pedophiles is this(explained through a "normal" person example):

    when you fap to porn/make love to your wife after your done, you move on to work/sleep/whatever and dont want to do it again for quite some time.
    if you dont have sex/fap for lets say...a month or year
    you feel like you cant take it anymore,you go to a bar or a party and try to get laid.(they will feel the same urge building up if they have no relief)

    they are sick,they cant stop being pedo just like gay ppl cant stop being gay...best to let them be themself in a harmless way.(my wish is that someday every pedo will fap to loli and forget about the next door 12 year old girl...thats never gona happen since ppl just lack self control,but i do belive that its a step closer to defeating REAL child pornography....with fake one)

    *on a note i am against child pornography and rapers
    *i am supporting fetishers,homosectuals,and any other HARMLESS orientations(even incest). no matter what my personal opinion of their orientation is, it is their right as long as they are harmless
    *i am supporting loli because i belive it has the potential to decrease crimerates IF AUTHORITIES USE THE OPPURTUNITY to shepard pedophiles with laws and enforcment to the more harmless path(of non-human sectual stress relief rather than human sectual stress relief)

    ok.....that was my opinion on the matter+what i think needs to be done concerning the bigger problem+disclaymer+reason of my support of loli.

    damn thats long!
    oh and as for UNISEF,they are fighting for a good cause...but on the wrong front. they need to stop and think,or atleast understand that exposure to child pornograpy cant create pedophiles,it can either create hatred twords the content or EXPOSE the "sleeper" potential pedo and redirect him before he does anything stupid.

    *quite a book there,if anyone actually reads this, do consider my proposition to use loli as a harmless solution to pedo's by harsher real pedo laws and enforcment, and post your opinion

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:38 11/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    this is exactly what any psychologist would say.

    one thing i would have to mention is the fact that the first graph and the second set of statistics contradict each other, which means that somebody is lying.

    Comment by lelouch11
    11:33 05/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    from your respnse, you just hate pedophilles.

    which is quite understandable considering the evils.

    but all you care about is getting them off sight so that you wont see them in your backdoor.

    and that is basickly all you want,you dont seem to care about the children even one tiny bit.
    you dont understand pedophilles,you dont try to come up with a solution.
    all you are basicly saying is "fuck off from my lawn".

    well the internet is not your lawn,its evryone's lawn...even ppl you hate have a place in it.

    and its good that thats in the open,if it wasnt then nobody would do crap because they wouldnt fucking see the problem in their face.

    no politician EVER talked about the issue before UNICEF and others put the pressure and increased avarness.

    loli doesnt possibly encourage pedo-rapes, just like porn doesnt encourage rapes........we have all been there in THAT fight,and it turned to be fact...porn of any kind decreasses chances of rapings.

    you dont know anything about the real issue.

    you just hate pedophilles for their malfunction
    and not because the malfunction makes them do horrible things

    pedophilles are not contaigous,neither are homosectuals,lesbians or fetishists.

    god created them like that,the phenomenom exsists since ancient times.
    you need to take care of the problem rather than try to hide/isolate/"reducate"/kill,again as with lesbians,homosectuals and fetishists in the past...we again focus on hating the diffrent rather than just taking care of the problem in a reasonable and safe way.(ppl are BORN pedo,not made into pedo its a flaw in our genes and it was spotted in animals in the wild aswell)

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:35 11/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    3d pig is disgusting.

    why would we want to raep real loli when we have our strike bitches?

    Comment by Wizary
    03:49 13/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    You - wrong

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    Comment by Anomynous
    06:47 08/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    tl;dr

    Comment by Anonymous
    03:10 17/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Do you believe any of the nonsense you are spouting,wudntuwannaknow?

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    Comment by zex
    09:52 17/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm a lolicon and I agree with wudntuwannaknow (on pretty much every level), against my own interests; just the same way that were I a wealthy person in America, I would vote green or democrat even though it would mean more taxes for me. It'd be for the better.

    I love lolicon, but that doesn't make it a totally innocent thing. It depicts children being raped, for god's sake. Cartoons, yes, but kid cartoons, with kid bodies.

    wudntuwannaknow's valid point that linking declining rape rates with lolicon distribution is incredibly simplistic, and unless you're ignorant or profoundly self-deluded, you'd agree with him. Even if lolicon played some minor role in such a trend, using this as ammunition in an argument is just being flippant to the issues.

    I would hate to see lolicon banned (and may have my reservations about banning any content that doesn't harm anyone in the making), but would I disagree with the proponents of said ban, or fail to understand their repulsion of lolicon? Not in the least.

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    Comment by zex
    09:57 17/07/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    ps: the number of times I've heard this same argument, almost identically worded every time, is astounding. Is it the same guy every time, or is this just some barnyard soundbite defense like the creationist watchmaker/human eye argument:

    "In fact, I like to avoid real children, regardless of gender or whatnot, because they tend to, in most cases, annoy the living hell out of me."

    Comment by Anonymous
    20:14 04/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    tl;dr

    Comment by Anonymous
    07:03 22/12/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Next time, come back with some statistics that actualy prove what your saying. Before we even get to the point of you offending me by denying me my freedom of speech, your offending me by putting forth your veiws as if they are the given truth.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:53 20/04/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    you are such a fool, an idiot if you really believe what you've written. the difference between 2D girls and 3D girls is about the same as day and night. saying you're a pedophile for liking loli is the same as the shit Germany's politicians are talking about when they say "Ego-shooter make you run amok". useless, not true and pretty much only triggering rage.

    you really sound either like a child or someone who has NO idea what's happening in the world, or even both.

    trolls like you are just stupid. I'm a lolicon, I say this, in public and over the internet and yet: I haven't touched a single child in an inappropriate way and I won't. I don't fap to them as well.

    you're just one of those moralic fags that try to sound mature, but yet you don't know what lolicons think. Same goes for UNICEF.

    I don't even get why I'm raging about your trolling or why I'm trying to take you serious, but it's just so wrong to think that lolicons are bad.

    thank you for being a troll, the world would appreciate it if you stopped for eternity.

    Comment by maglor
    21:11 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Although I believe these statistics are valid, I hope you can cite other reputable sources for them so it may be possible to cross check them from multiple sources. A direct link to a page from Japanese government, UN, or widely recognized international human rights group would be very welcome.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:12 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    'UK 16.23 “Simple Possession”, Loli Manga, BDSM to be Banned'

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

    Comment by MaimeDaifuku
    21:18 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Love UNICEF, but hate how they want lolicon out.

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:26 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Y'know, it's going to be a case of 'For' or 'Against'. I wouldn't mind UNICEF protecting children around the world then they're MOST NEEDED, but looking at how they operate, there are absolutely no objections about child abuse.

    So no lolicon for you, unless you wanna go to jail.

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:02 19/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Incouding abuse of fictitious child abuse? What happened to the boundaries of reality and fantasy? Who's the crazy one in this picture?

    Comment by Anonymous
    21:20 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    '#1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people'

    DAMMIT UNICEF, LOOK AT SOUTH AFRICA! THEY MUST HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF CHILD PORNOGRAGHY OVER THERE! DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM, RATHER THAN PETIT COUNTRIES LIKE JAPAN.

    WHAT WAS THAT? JAPAN HAS BEEN SUPPLYING LOLI TO AFRICA???

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    Comment by Jashin
    21:21 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Then they must ban their own MTVs...

    Comment by lelouch11
    10:47 05/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    lol yea 2 days ago i opened it up hoping for some new hip music and there wasn't even one clip that didnt feature half naked models.
    its seriously messed up with the woman usage on that channel

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    Comment by Tony D
    21:23 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    The Japanese figures would be *reported*, which... well, given Japan's society, wouldn't reflect the real figures in the slightest. In a country where parents would prefer to let their children live in their bedrooms for their entire lives in fear of causing a scene in front of the neighbours, it's a bit doubtful many people would confess to something as 'shameful' as rape...

    Comment by wut
    22:35 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah, because 100% of the people in Japan are exactly the same, just like you read on the Internet.

    Comment by rockbottom
    02:50 17/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    What, you really think the other countries then have a 100% report rate? Give me a break.

    Comment by Washi
    08:25 17/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Regardless of whether it's only "reported rapes" or not, the trend shown in the rate of rape over time is still valid.

    >>In a country where parents would prefer to let their children live in their bedrooms for their entire lives in fear of causing a scene in front of the neighbours

    What load of rubbish have you been reading?

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:41 17/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes, Tony D, you can't ever trust those sneaky Japs. /sarcasm

    Look, Japan's a first-world democracy. They're not perfect, but they deserve as much benefit of the doubt as any other Western nation.

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    Comment by Halconnen
    02:33 01/01/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Given their politicians do not appear to be half as dense as some of the ones in western democracies, I'm actually willing to give Japan -more- benefit of the doubt.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:05 24/09/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Really? ask the DPJ ANYTHING about how their military works, you'll be left dumbfounded and fearful for Japan's safety.

    While your at it, consider how their political campaigns were carried out! You'd think such an educated society would put more in their politician's policies than emotional appeals. It was like half of Obama's campaign, the half the touted "change" over and over again.

    Comment by Anonymous
    17:30 06/10/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Whats that got to do with the price of tea in china?

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    Comment by abbe
    21:46 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    What the hell, didn't know Sweden had such a high rate of rape? It's not brought up THAT often in the media, so the 24rapes/100000population seems a bit off to me...

    Comment by Anonymous
    01:01 17/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    My impression is that rape is something that you can quite often see something about in swedish newspaers.

    Also loli manga might be banned in sweden but it's not like we really care. No one has even been brought to court about a case of loli manga from what I know.

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    Comment by abbe
    04:39 17/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yeah I suppose so, guess I'm not really that up to date with what's happening here in Sweden.

    Also, when I were out walking with a friend I saw that the headline on a paper was "17 year old raped after online-date"...

    Comment by Anonymous
    22:35 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    You know now that I think about it, doesn't this seem awfully similar to kids fighting over something as trivial as 'You can't play with sticks, because I'm not allowed to as I hurt people, so you shouldn't too!'

    A little more perspective; 'We can't handle things right over here, so we'll force others to listen to things, that didn't work for us! But it sounds good!'

    Or another e.g. would be a scam artist/door to door salesman making something appear wrong about something when there really isn't. Like 'Did you know you're gutter is bad and is ready to fall apart? Buy this 'useless thing' that looks good, and looks better! It 'WILL' help improve your life!'

    Another e.g. Politicians; all mouth about policies, no results in the end, or just gets worse because there was no effect.

    Just because the West has an increase in rape and can't handle it, doesn't mean that Japan can't too.

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    Comment by Jarmel
    22:49 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    To be fair looking at those statistics, the rape thing in Japan was going down in numbers before 1980 anyway. We don't know what caused the downward trend, maybe certain laws where passed.

    Comment by Decadene
    23:21 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I agree that it would be fallacious to conclude from these stats that lolicon causes a decrease in sex crime against minors (correlation != causation), but they go a long way to disproving the idea that lolicon causes an increase in this sort of crime.

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    Comment by Jarmel
    23:31 16/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    That is true. I personally can give a rat's ass because in every country there is some douchebag that tries to get stuff banned. Jack Thompson in the USA is trying to get videogames banned and says it's because it causes an increase in violent behavior.

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    Comment by Artefact

    I have plenty of background in statistics, so I am only too aware that these sort of figures are open to abuse - this is essentially as partisan as UNICEF. Still, they do balance out the propaganda war, and of course UNICEF's are possibly even more dubious.

    Comment by Anonymous
    23:00 11/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    And Osamu Tezuka said, Let there be Astroboy: and there was Astroboy. And Japan saw the Astroboy, that it was good: and Osamu Tezuka divided the Astroboy from the Mickey Mouse. And he called the Mickey Mouse gay, and the Astroboy he called Anime.

    And Osamu Tezuka said, Let us make ani-ota in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the mizugi of the sea, and over the lolis of the air, and over the nekomimi, and over all the anime, and over every creepy thing that creepeth upon Japan. So Osamu created ani-ota in his own image, in the image of Osamu created he him; fanboy and fangirl created he them. And he blessed them, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the mizugi of the sea, and over the lolis of the air, and over every living anime that aireth upon the TV.

    This is why the rape went down during the 1980s

    Basically Osamu created fangirls from the ribs of fanboys and their yaoi.

    This is from the 1st book of the Bible Black, Neon Genesis.

    Comment by Anonymous
    02:54 27/05/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    amen





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