Gonzo Plans Ero-Anime to Avert Bankruptcy?

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    Comment by metatron
    22:41 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)




    Comment by Fonzer
    23:21 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    seto no hanayome anime should be sold more then that?
    Reffering to how awesome and funny it was

    Comment by fatcow
    02:32 09/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    serves them right for not making vandread 3. especially after seeing those sales figure, just why did they refuse to finish vandread's story?

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:05 09/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Part of me is giddy to see that Gonzo finally crashing and burning. Another part wished it had happened sooner when it might have actually mattered.

    Comment by Dorne
    20:57 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Sex sells. Hopefully...

    Comment by loldongs
    20:50 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    And that's what you get for lacking quality in every department: Sales dropping below the floor.

    Comment by kenjiharima
    16:07 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Conspiracy or not one thing is for sure only Strike Witches is Gonzo's salvation. As for the anime titles, I hate to say it, but some are pretty good manga's turned anime which Gonzo deliberately destroyed. Just imagine all those animes turning ero...XD

    Comment by Anonymous
    04:25 09/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    hmmm ero Strike Witches, something that I wont be watching tbh. They have left an open ending because they knew they were in trouble and wanted to see how DVD sales will prove themselves. And they did prove themselves, pretty good if you ask me.
    So i dont see why they just carry on with Strike Witches and drop some of the projects filled with phail like The Tower of Druaga. But thats just me :P

    But you never know, GONZO might not survive 2009. I wonder, if they collapse, who will produce my second season of Strike Witches?!!!! T.T

    Comment by notfair
    00:05 15/02/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    I thought Last Exile was sell quite well, look like i was wrong. Depend on country I guess ;).

    Comment by HoroTheWise
    06:49 10/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I really dont think that they will make a Strike Witches ero a second season of the anime would be much more profitable imo. If they end up going ero they will probably make an entire new H-series, not just make ero versions of their current anime lineup

    Comment by nifty
    17:13 09/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    * October - Rosario + Vampire Capu2,[3] Linebarrels of Iron
    * July - Strike Witches
    * April - The Tower of Druaga: the Aegis of Uruk, Special A, Blassreiter
    * January - Rosario + Vampire[4]

    * October - Dragonaut -The Resonance-
    * July - The Five Killers[5] (in USA)
    * April - Romeo x Juliet, Bokurano, Kaze no Stigma, & Seto no Hanayome (With AIC)
    * March - Tenshi Sairin (Burst Angel: Infinity)
    * January - Afro Samurai & Getsumen to Heiki Mina

    * October - Red Garden & Pumpkin Scissors
    * July - Welcome to the N.H.K.
    * April - Legend of the Glass Fleet & Witchblade

    * October - SoltyRei (With AIC) & Black Cat
    * Densha Otoko Opening animation.
    * Fall - G.I. Joe: Sigma 6
    * July - Transformers: Cybertron
    * May - Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Cristo
    * April - Basilisk, Speed Grapher & Trinity Blood

    * October - Desert Punk (Sunabouzu) & Gankutsuou
    * June - Samurai 7
    * April - Gantz & Burst Angel (Bakuretsu Tenshi)
    * January - Gravion Zwei

    * November - Chrono Crusade
    * October - Peacemaker Kurogane
    * April - Kaleido Star, Last Exile & Gad Guard
    * February 2003 Digigirl Pop! STRAWBERRY&POP MIX FLAVOR

    * October - Kiddy Grade & Gravion
    * July - Saikano
    * April - Gatekeepers 21
    * January - Full Metal Panic!

    * October - Final Fantasy: Unlimited, Hellsing (TV series) & Vandread the Second Stage
    * July - Samurai Girl: Real Bout High School

    * October - Vandread
    * April - Gate Keepers

    From 2004-2007, not a single title reached 5,000 sales... and almost all of them were licensed overseas.

    Comment by DaCloset
    02:59 10/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Just imagining here...
    Poor decent voice actors will have to dub non-decent hentai anime if Strike Witches becomes ero...
    Gonzo indeed needs to sort things out properly.
    Think logically and positively in any ways.
    Can't say anymore but I really wanna have a Strike Witches second season.
    And if they should make an ero out of it, make it a separate series to not affect the main plot of the story. But that's just a thought though. *grins*

    Comment by Yuun
    12:03 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I only care if Gonzo will survive. Saki is definitely one of my favorite manga, seeing it done by Gonzo, no doubt ecchi level will be boost in the anime. Then again, i have always liked Gonzo production accept for some really shitty series.

    Which is to my surprise that Gonzo out of so many other production company is facing bankruptcy... i smell conspiracy...

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    Comment by Tommy
    14:22 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm thinking the same here

    Comment by Quen
    06:30 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Regardless of any slight degradation in animation quality, I don't think I'd be alone in thinking a Strike Witches full-H anime would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. ^^

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    Comment by Stonehound
    08:57 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    ^This. Oh, so very, very THIS.

    Comment by Haesslich
    09:16 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Yes. UNICEF needs more ammunition to point to 'anime = kiddy porn' arguments. You do realize that all of those girls are of less than legal age, right? :P

    Comment by Legacy
    10:31 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Has that ever stopped Japan before? Though fully aged stars are more often, there is still a decent number of H-anime out their with underage characters, such as The Story of Little Monica and the Boku no Pico OVA series. If they do release a Strike Witches H-series as some of us are hoping, then wouldn't it simply be released to DVD and not aired on TV? Strike Witches makes Gonzo the most money in DVD sales, and I'm thinking that they would make a fairly large sum of moolah from a Strike Witches H-series.

    Though yes, UNICEF may have a field day with it if they did.

    Comment by Anonymous
    06:30 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Figures why there's heavy censorship with R+V Capu2. Figured they have to boost DVD sales from uncensored versions.

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    Comment by Kageryu
    06:39 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    A Gonzo hentai...this...could be awesome.

    Comment by 360E
    05:53 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    And the gonzo failtrain continues...

    Comment by Anonymous
    10:10 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Some are born mediocre, some achieve mediocrity, and some, have mediocrity thrust upon them...

    Comment by Ak
    05:30 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Since they decided to do only 4 series in 2009, and since they recently announced Saki, does this mean that we won't have the 2nd season of Strike Witches (at least in 2009)?

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    Comment by tyciol
    01:56 29/07/2010 # ! Neutral (0)

    Not even sure we`ll get it in 2010 blah

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    Comment by relentlessflame
    05:34 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    There's a bit more to the story in terms of Gonzo's DVD sales. More than most production companies, a lot of Gonzo shows were aimed at least as much (if not more so) at the North American and International markets. Shows like Hellsing, Witchblade, and Trinity Blood may have had mediocre DVD sales in Japan, but sold extremely well in North America. This is also why, until recently, every show that Gonzo produced was sure-to-be licensed. Gonzo's business model depended on the North American and other global markets.

    Of course, what happened in the meantime is that the North American market (in particular) has dried up nearly entirely. You'll remember that was the big news about a year ago. As always, it takes a year or two for the effects of market shifts to actually hit the production line (because production begins on shows at least 12-18 months before it airs), but that's why you saw Gonzo shift towards more otaku-targeted titles like Strike Witches (which proved to be a big success for them in Japan, but no indication of it being licensed anytime soon -- a sign of the times).

    In short, if you look at Gonzo's DVD sales alone, you might wonder how it is that they ever made money, but their business model was always a little bit different and more dependent on international sales. As times changed, their old business model proved to be no longer sustainable, hence all the recent restructuring. They might be able to come out of this, but they'll probably be a nearly-completely different company in the end.

    Comment by Jagoss
    14:22 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm sorry but I do not think you can take American sales as anything of any worth in a discussion about Japan and anime. For several reasons.

    American market is very small. So small that it cannot rightly be called a 'Market' We have some consumers here. But the bare fact is, Japanese anime make a bare fraction of any sales. When asking the normal guy on the street about Anime, they will say something like 'Avatar the Last Airbender' is an awesome Anime. But the truth is, it isn't an anime. It is a cartoon made by Nick.

    Most anime come through companies like Funamation and 4kids being the largest licensees of anime, and if you look at that, it's mostly Shonen. You will not see many Shoujo, Josie, Seinen, anywhere on American TV. You see a bare fraction 'anime' marketed items. Compared to Disney and other American Cartoons.

    America is not a market for Japanese anime and companies. We do not have even a bare fraction. and as long as we do not have any real market, we will not see anything major coming to America.

    Comment by nifty
    16:55 09/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Okay, you just took his post about Gonzo's past business model, and tried to apply it to the anime industry as a whole. And a couple years ago the anime market in america was booming and growing, and projected to grow even bigger, and no company is ever gonna completely ignore a prospective customer. And i don't really think anime, even in japan, is a huge mainstream trend, or at least the titles that relentlessflame mentioned. Ergo Proxy is another anime that was made with an American audience in mind... they even had radiohead as the ending theme. That wasn't Gonzo though. Afro Samurai however, that's an obvious sign of reliance on american markets.

    Also, learn demographics. The people who were mostly purchasing anime in america during the time it was growing were teenagers and college kids, not "random guy on street." And most non-anime fans would probably say pokemon over Avatar, and wouldn't say they were good.

    Gonzo and Geneon were probably the only companies i can think of that had a lot invested into the american market potential. But Geneon got out fast when the sales weren't coming in, and Gonzo... is Gonzo.

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    Comment by Artefact

    Very interesting. I recall from their restructuring plan that GDH stressed the international component of their business. Without digging through their financial reports I'm not too sure what proportion of their revenues actually came from overseas distribution though?

    I can't help but wonder why they are so desperate to cling to their brand... I presume they have ruled out just breaking up the studio and selling the IP to other studios. Possibly less risky for investors.

    Comment by mw
    06:34 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    It might also be a matter of pride. The original management team (who still sit on the restructured board) built GDH from ground up and led the company through some glorious years. In a way, I can see why they'd want to keep fighting until the bitter end.

    With many companies, we don't see massive dismantling until new managers (who have no emotional investment in the firm's legacy) take over. I think GDH is halfway there, given Iwakaze's Capital's acquisition of a controlling stake.

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    Comment by relentlessflame
    05:37 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    (Incidentally, regarding Strike Witches licensing, I meant in the traditional DVD sense. They did stream it with subtitles, and for free in most place -- even more of a sign of the times for a company that used to depend on the North American market for a good chunk of their revenue.)

    Comment by Webbmaster62
    05:35 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm all for a ero anime by GONZO. It would be something different and should help them get outta of the whole. Just make sure the censoring is not over the top.

    Comment by D
    06:53 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    This wouldn't be a problem if they actually made good anime.

    Comment by kadian1364
    04:11 09/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Exactly. If Linebarrels is the best they can come up with in dire economic times, then maybe 4 anime a year is still too much to make.

    Make something legit or make porn. Either direction can increase sales.

    Comment by Anonymous
    12:10 01/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    >Implying Strike Witches isn't good

    Comment by Legacy
    06:55 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'm failing to see how this is good news. I'm willing to bet that, unless its a Strike Witches ero-anime, then Gonzo is still going to go down in flames.

    Comment by Aza
    09:49 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I think the most important question that presents itself is whether they will allow uncensored subbed version to be sold internationally through BOST (or streamed some other way).

    If they do, they'd suffer huge reverse imports (or "reverse download"), but would get bigger audience (and get the revenue directly). I know Lilith/Pixy got a nice number of downloads through English DLsite, even with mosaics.

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    Comment by Onsokumaru
    10:26 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I am laughing sooooo hard right now. Hahaha

    Comment by Hectotane
    09:10 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    But hold on. Waitaminute. Let's think here:

    Last I checked, there are still people out there who only download anime and never buy. So that's still a problem. The people who ran GonzoDH had panicked like headless chicken because of all the downloaders.

    Seondly and mainly; Gonzo DOES need to go back to making good anime. Actually; Gonzo needs to STOP making crap for the miserable otaku. They've proven that the only thing their here for is "virgin arse and nipples."

    AND. They need to return to that spot of entertaining the international audience. Take a look at Funimation and why it done so well during this recession.

    But if they ARE gonna make ero; it probably won't be of "Vanilla Series" quality. But they better not be of "Pink Pineapple" idealism where they make h-anime for the Japanese only. They should speak to Kitty Media's John Sirabella about uncensored releases as well.

    They should stop beating up on the male leads from Linebarrels and Rosario+Vampire. Seriously.

    Comment by Ichigo69
    16:58 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    --But hold on. Waitaminute. Let’s think here:

    --Last I checked, there are still people out there who only download anime and never buy. So that’s still a problem. The people who ran GonzoDH had panicked like headless chicken because of all the downloaders.

    Sigh, desu~
    When will companies figure out that there are some people who will /NEVER/ buy anything and if it weren't available for download, they just wouldn't get it. It's not /lost income/ it's income they were NEVER GONNA FUCKING GET in the first place...

    Comment by Anonymous
    13:05 30/11/2009 # ! Neutral (0)

    Funimation butchers everything they touch. the last thing anybody needs is for real japanese studios to become more like them.

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    Comment by Aoshi
    09:03 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Why don't they just turn Kurogane no Linebarrels into a ero-anime where the pilots are all emo and screw each other in their free time?

    C'mon Gonzo... fail train is leaving the station. CHOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    Comment by Vissssss
    06:55 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    Gonzo + Hentai = ?
    Can't wait to see what titles will be released, most certainly will want to see an ERO version on Strike Witches.

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    Comment by Kai
    08:13 08/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    I'd like to see a Kiddy Grade hentai, speaking of which why haven't they started after releasing a promo a year or two ago.

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    Comment by Shiroi Hane
    21:28 23/12/2008 # ! Neutral (0)

    If you mean the sequel, then it is animated by asread, not Gonzo and to answer, I have no idea. asread already have another Minami-ke TV series and OVA queued up for 2009 :(

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