The incredible reaction from otaku upon learning that Kannagi’s flat chested goddess Nagi-sama had a boyfriend, and may in fact be “second-hand”, even when the manga still has not resolved the issue, continues to attract much attention.
The latest development is that some virgin obsessed wretch on 2ch has taken the extreme step of publically destroying his copies of the manga, in order to fully express his ire at being betrayed by his 2D wife.
Perhaps there is a need for formal divorce proceedings in cases like this after all?
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i'm sorry (not really)
but the reaction is pathetic.
my goodness. these guys need to balance Reality, with their Fantasies.
i agree with a previous comment that connects to this issue. that it is Sexism, and a very strong one too.
is it worse than some fangirls i have seen?
not even close.
agreed, pathetic.
such a waste, should have been given to someone else, in case he was mistaken..
yeah! he should have given it to someone! that was good money, paper and drawings wasted! So what if Nagi might not be a virgin? I mean, those reactionaries are already very deluded so it's not so much of a stretch if they just deluded themselves some more into thinking Nagi is a virgin or at least just pretend not to believe anything about her lack thereof.
everything has already been said.
this is simply pathetic.
I would have sold those instead of destroying.
I would have kept them and kept reading the series. If I liked the characters and series enough to collect them, finding out the character had a boyfriend would not cause me to destroy the books I had collected... but then again, I'm not looking to marry a fictional character.
A Johnnys fangirl once threw acid in the face of her beloved Idol because it was revealed he was dating some celebrity. That's a hellva lot worse than this.
My money is this is just an epic 2ch troll, regardless; they do it all the time over Idol news, trying to one-up the last person...
Johnny as in Depp?
i'm more referring to Fictional Characters.
i'll agree about this pic being staged heh
but the reaction is very much real.
no, Johnny's is a popular company especially with boy band's.
ah. now i see.
that company that creates groups of idol singers. i am use to seeing it as Johnny's Jr.
I think it's more known as Johnny & Associates or Johnny's Entertainment. Johhny's Jr. is a part of the whole talent agency. Yep, JE focuses on male group singers and male idols.
But woah, did a fangirl really threw acid to an idol? x__x scary.
Well, i haven't heard of a fangirl who ripped her idol magazine or manga because of that reason, but they do bicker a lot over male characters and idols. There was this Kiba Inuzuka fan who would get mad at other Kiba fangirls, claiming "Kiba's mine!!" in a shout.
And mad is just an understatement. =__=
But this, on the other hand, is just sad. :(
I wonder if he would laugh at his actions or feel embarrassed after a few years. He should think about it.
I agree. Most of the people who destroy things on 2ch are not actually fans, but trolls who want to get people riled up. They do it for the lulz and to one-up other trolls. Not all the Japanese fans of Kannagi are like this.
Still talking about reality for anime world,,,
Just stop watching anime and fuck your gf over and over again...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
They exist. They believe they are married to anime characters. I met one of them recently... and I have no idea how they are able to somehow maintain that illusion.
Bwahahaha!
Never underestimate the crazy things that sexually insecure people will do to in order to assuage their insecurity. There's plenty of stupid otaku like that everywhere, for example that whats-his-name guy who is so insecure that he takes it as a personal insult whenever female characters hit male characters or otherwise threaten traditional gender roles. When people are internally sexually insecure, they try to base their security on external things. That means they'll get really upset and angry whenever those external things don't pander to their their fragile identities, sometimes to the point of violence. It's similar to why in-the-closet homophobes are so angry and violent towards gays, though in this particular Kannagi incident it's much more hilarious since no real people are getting hurt.
Sure is normalfags in here.
it is called schizophrenia my friend, just like in fight club only in 2d. interesting really, though, that they don't pick up on the fact that they (the real and imagined), have no social life "together". no pun intended.
oh god, i pity the manga... D=
I think the ire of frustration of the otaku fans is that they (fans) and not the writer should be the one to make the call of who goes first to Nagi.
Probably had spare copies anyway.
Hey, they are hardcore. I've seen some that burned their entire collection when the mangako did somthing that they hated.
agreed. so no real harm done in the sake of trolling
To put it in most crude way:
"I want to be the first to make Nagi bleed!"
That was good.
They can't bear that the character they like is impure. Considering that Nagi was a Goddess, they have this idea that she is a virgin, not knowing any male before this
Honestly they need to get a life. Instead of mansturbating to 2D, get laid in real time. Who knows, the girl might be a virgin :3
But... But... 3D is Pig Disgusting! D:
No. Real women are all sluts.
^-this no matter how hard they try to deny it.
yes, they all love it up the ass, and will take a dirty sanchez for 50 bucks!
Your girlfriends? All sluts, your sisters? ALL SLUTS! Your mothers? well, lets not go there.
Anyways everything you idolize is "impure" and "second-hand", so rage, RAGE!!!! RRRRRAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!!!!
(forget that the Nagi character never once expressed any sort of romantic affection for Jin, and even stated that she already had someone she loved.) -,-''
Misogygny is very funny when people who make those bitter comments are actually serious :>
hahahaha, Nagi-tard
Pitiful
Ah well, manga is cheap as dirt in Japan anyways. He's out like what, $20?
\4,000 by the looks of it.
800 yen/volume eh? That's pretty expensive.
100 yen is like $1 in australia. mean while $1 aus is like $2 in the us.
hmmm. not overly expensive, but a crying shame and a waste all the same. now all they are good for is keeping the homeless warm.
Up till this blew up, I had no reason to believe that people were actually taking this "ore no yome" thing that seriously. Certainly the Nico Nico Douga crowd seems to view it as more of an "all in good fun" kind of thing, for the most part.
But this, together with all the bloody racists screaming about the proposed changes to Japan's nationality laws... has left me in despair.
I've been reading the rather sad reaction to the nationality laws too - not an inspiring sight.
Damn, and I was thinking of ordering a volume of the manga from the internet, people in Japan actually destroys these things. Don't they have pity for trees or something?
Haha, then you'll be surprised to hear that come recycling day, people chuck manga out by the stacks.
What I still want to know is how does a boyfriend=sex??
Good point.. :/
I was wondering about that, as well..
Boys only have a girlfriend to get some sex =P
Ive been wondering about the psychology of these otakus since I saw the 1st article about this here. If I may:
This is all about possession. It is a very masculine psychological trait; men want to posses and dominate the women around them. We man are able to control this impulse with intellect, but we are ultimately still animals and this side does sometimes win out in us.
A girl's/woman's virginity is the ultimate form of possession (in a man's mind). This is something that a man can take and it can only be taken once. It can never be "untaken", and thus a man will always feel some level of ownership of that woman for the rest of his life. You ever wonder why blood streaming from between a young woman's legs is such a popular meme in Japanese porn? Virgins certainly aren't any good at sex I can tell you that much.
This explains the horror otakus felt upon learning of her defloration(maybe?): she does not and cannot belong to them.
Side Note- the trashing of his mangas is further evidence of this betrayal. He no longer feels he can possess nagi and thus owning the mangas is pointless.
Insightful.
This psychology seems to underlie idols in general.
Of course this is rather universal, but specifically in Japanese culture, there is plenty of tradition in this area - for example, it used to be an expensive privilege to buy the opportunity to have first crack at a virgin geisha.
Actually Geisha aren't and weren't prostitutes. That's a misguided "western world" assumption. In Japan they actually had prostitute for prostitution. Geisha are merely entertainers.
Try reading more then just "Memoirs of a Geisha" before you think you know something.
Romanticised rubbish. Geisha were/are at the top end of a spectrum of entertainers/prostitutes stretching all the way down to common street walkers. The fact that their services were never advertised is an indication of just how exclusive they were.
what artefact says is actually true, anyone that has taken ANY world history class that covers midevil japan in some way will make that clear... geisha are "entertainers" the same way any other prostitute is an "entertainer", though their culture it different, where geisha usually have an attitude of dominance over her "customers", and the shows and dancing and crap are just for more business.
basically most geisha are trained to be stuck up egotistical women, but never reveal that side to the customers, it helps motivate them to do their work i guess...
Bingo.
And it's only natural, since that means the offspring of the possessed female is his offspring.
Back in the day marriage was the possession of a woman's sexuality and the fruits thereof. That's why the children of old divorce stayed with the father, because they were the 'fruits thereof'. Feminists attacked that concept to revise the law, and now men are not marrying.
Of course now we have DNA tests so men don't have to be so anal about what their women do.
The upside of the whole 'possession' concept is that men whose women make it clear they 'belong' to their men report that they have less wandering eyes and are less attracted to beautiful strangers -- in other words feel more faithful --, because they are very satisfied with the women who belong to them as opposed to women who do not. It's like the difference between driving a car you own and one you don't -- you tend to treat the rental car like shit since you know you can offload it anytime.
Back then when Kobayashi Jin ended his infamous School Rumble in the most rumbling way,fans were angry and start burning all their SR mangas and posters as a protest to KJ not being serious towards his own-made series.Well to be honest,i also was a part of that raged fans.But i think thats pretty reasonable for a fans to do such things (burn their mangas,posters..etc) for that kind of reason.
But this one surely pathetic.Those otakus really need a reality check up.Rumbling over non real life issues,especially 2D wives matter is seriously stupid imo.Not that i against their thinking especially those under otaku category,but this one surely exceeds the otaku border.
They sure are helpless...being an extremist surely scary,especially if it ONLY concerns 2D non real life matters.
Wait... what?
I'm sorry, but you think it's reasonable to burn something you paid money for because the end didn't turn out the way you wanted it too?
I'm stepping on toes here, I know, but that's silly. Of course, it's your stuff, so do what you want with it, but taking your "appreciation" to that kind of level is absurd.
i dont get it,
if it's reasonable to get pissed off when the author ruined an ending, then what's wrong with getting angry when your fav chara was ruined by the author(no matter in the virginity thing way or usage of jin way)?
Replying to Garland and KonW
Its 2 different matters to me.SR manga was good tbh..but what really made fans angry was that,Jin ended the whole things without settling the most important issue in that manga - whom did Harima ended up with.Issit Tenma or Eri or Yakumo?
Things never been explained clearly in the manga,when few chapters before the ending hinting that Eri might win in the love competition,and fans started to get hyped over it,Jin suddenly decided to ended the whole things using the most ridiculous ending.Of course fans who had been loyal to the series for years would be angry and rage for it,although some fans went overboard by burning their SR mangas,but i still think that kind of rage caused by that kind of reason is still acceptable.
Of course i won't go to such length,burning all my mangas just because the manga ending in the most suck way,but to other fans they might seeing things differently.SR was a good series,although the drawings kinda messy and scratch,but what attracted fans to buy the mangas and stuffs was the plot and development between Harima and the girls.They love the plot,they love the storyline...so many things started and developed in the manga,and fans were totally excited about it.
But when Jin Kobayashi decided to wrap the whole things into just 2 chapters of manga,and leaving the main plot hanged just like that,fans were totally angry.Its normal anyway for this kind of situation where fans were raging because of the way the mangaka concluded the series.Yeah i know its stupid to burn all those mangas,but what differentiate between the SR fans matter and Nagi fans matter was the reason behind it.
To me what those SR fans did to their SR mangas and stuffs was still under the border of otaku line,although still it was absurd (they better off donating it to a recycling department or something,rather than burning it...).They didn't see SR in the way those Kannagi extremist did to their Nagi.Its only normal i believe for those kind of fans to throw and burn out those good-for-nothing stuffs if its no longer have any real value or reason to keep it.The first and real reason why fans keep the series in the beginning was because of the reason "they love the series"."Love the series" here means they love the series as a whole,not just because of one particular girl or character in that series which they treated as their wife,like those Nagi extremist did.So when their lovable series turns in a complete garbage and junks,they felt like theres no more reason for them to keep the book as a part of their collection.
Of course Kannagi's case is not the same.What those Kannagi fans did although same like those SR fans did,but in terms of level of absurdness,Kannagi's fans were the winner.Why?Because there's no concrete reason to do such things.Kannagi series is still as lovely as it is.What makes them do that was because of their corrupted illusion and fantasies.Treating a 2D girl as a wife from reality view is already absurd enough.The manga itself never mentioned about Nagi losing her virginity to this so-called Nagi's boyfriend which is still unconfirmed whether she really has a bf or not,but they already stepped to the point where their fantasizing mind override their logic and sanity.
Treating a non real stuff (such as 2D girl) as something "absolute" to the point of completely obsessed by it and abandoning real life to me is totally pathetic.Theres no good point in doing such thing...even if you do it because of the reason that you're a true fan.I'm an anime fan too and i sure like Nagi too...but i know where my limit as a fan is.
Ppl may go as far as wasting their money to buy all their favorite series` merchandises and mangas and toys and other stuffs,and that is still fine to me.Ppl may stay late night and sleep less just to wait for their favorite series to be aired in the TV or internet,and to me that is still ok,although i don't really encourage ppl to do it.But to go as far as treating an anime girl as their wife,and being completely obsessive towards it,to the point where it completely ruining one's real life,that to me is certainly not ok.Ppl need to at least know their limit.
it's as absurd to assume people who destroy manga are treating 2D as wives srsly and abandoning real life as it is to doubt Nagi's verginity only because of one vague sentence.
There's no absurdness in expressing one's anger, as long as the way he chooses poses no harm to others.
what's more, i dont think there's any difference or right and wrong about how you like a series,(whether bacause you like one chara or the whole story)
if all the characters in SchoolRumble turned into middle aged women and uncles (lol), i don't think you'll still like the storyline or plot of it.