The revelation that flat goddess Nagi-sama, of Kannagi, had a boyfriend and thus may not in fact be a virgin has provoked a storm of outrage on 2ch, with obsessive fans vowing to throw out their manga, cancel their dakimakura orders, etc. Otaku viciously proclaim they have no need of a “second-hand” wife.
Others hold this to be the era of Zange-chan, available for a mere ¥100 a go…
The problem stems from a few lines in the latest chapter:
There’s no need to go into spoiling detail on the rest (not that there really is any).
Their histrionics are seen as all the more ridiculous considering no actual allusion to sex has even been made, just the introduction of an “ex-boyfriend character”.
It is also noted that those complaining are the main audience for all manner of interesting doujin works…
About the only worthwhile point raised is that the timing of such a revelation (if indeed it is such, and not merely the obsessive ravings of a thousand NEET virgin hunters) seems odd, given that it arrives just in time to coincide with the DVD release and therefore have a deleterious effect on sales, assuming such otaku are numerous enough to have an impact. Possibly there is some mistake?
Another interesting point raised is that for a thousand-year-old goddess to be a virgin might just be the more objectionable, though perhaps not to otaku.
You can read the relevant portions of the thread here.
Perhaps these wretches would like to file for a virtual divorce?
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Gotta love Otaku politics.
Being a thousand year old virgin goddess can make sense if you spent that time as a TREE.
otaku..politics?
Yeah, complaining about Nagi's potential sex life is kinda wack for ero-doujins consumers.
Shouldn't experience be a plus?
For whores ? Definitely yes.
For a love interest ? Well, only in morally bankrupt Euro countries and USia. I wonder what kind of "experience" your mother had...
Funny that you would say that, considering where you hail from...
"morally bankrupt"? O RLY?
If this kind of stupidity and blatant double standard represents "moral solvency", then I would rather write in red ink ever after.
(And what in holy blazes has my mother ever got to do with this? With all due disrespect, you are spewing crap.)
Nice, ad hominem because it makes you right.
Sounds like someone's angry that *his* ladies of negotiable affection charge him extra.
Failure on a massive level
NO FAGGOT.
I agree, as long as she's not a ho, experience is a plus.
Haha, these complaints just... reek of otaku-ism.
As you say, she's a thousand-year old goddess. And she doesn't really seem like your typical wall-flower, so I'd say it's a pretty certain bet there's been a tumble or two...
Then again, a lot of her character traits are stupid-innocent-ish (for example the "magic wand"), which I suppose could be an indication from the creator that she's yet to have tasted "the forbidden fruit" and grown up.
Still, such a silly thing to obsess about. このロリコンどもめ！
A lot of the posters kept on about it being an idol anime, hence their disappointment. The opening, which seemed to me to be a parody, seems a tenuous basis from which to demand idol like chastity...
That's certainly true of course. I didn't think about that approach; and with the general morning musume-thing going (no boyfriend, no experience, no realism), I guess it kind of annoyed some people... I'm not all too familiar with Japanese idoltry (sp?) myself, so this all kind of came as a bit of a culture "eh?" to me.
if people keep setting their standards to unreasonable then they are going to crash and drown in their sorrows, I say put the Otakus at the stake or better yet throw them in public we'll see how they are then
I just keep thinking, wasn't she a tree until the anime began? How do you get a boyfriend when you are a tree?
why is this such a big deal...she must of had tasted "the forbidden fruit" once or twice in her long life,and i think she is simply a child at heart.
Either way those that are complaining really need to get out more..but then again for those J-otaku already have a couple of screws louse as it is.
Yeah, their jealousy doesn't really make much sense. I bet they want to be Nagi's boyfriend and possibly raep her themselves. I called it Otaku Hypocrisy.
that is so true, just cause nagi has an ex boyfriend, the otaku just throw up a fuss. Its a fantasy story and people shouldn't get too serious with it.
Say it isn't so, Nagi =D
You're not going to cancel your orders, are you?
Of course not, Nagi is love.
But perhaps I can use this as a basis to ask for a discount on my orders, seeing how my Nagi is already second-hand! ^^
Quoth 2ch:
"It's a good job I bought the manga second-hand after Nagi turns out to be that too."
Hehe :)
I was planning on going to Book-Off sooner or later for Kannagi/Index/Kemeko, I should hold up a Kannagi manga next to the "second-hand" 中古 sign and take a photo, perhaps.
I lol'ed at no faggotry. NO FAGGOT!! wahahahha
Nagi is a slut. A dirty used whore.
So are most Actual whores, yet people keep going to them? So in other words, you're saying people will keep flocking back to Nagi. I like that thinking :3
You're damn right she is, been plowing her every night of everyday, gotta love the flat chicks they know how to play
because she had a boyfriend? did YOU sleep with the first boyfriend/girlfriend you had? i didn't.
I did =)
No wonder. 27's a pretty old age for you to do that.
so here we see possibly most clearly the difference between western and eastern concepts about this over-discussed topic.
you may find it difficult to understand but actually 99% of the female protagonists in anime/manga/gal are virgins,unless the series itself is the H kind without any notable plot other than sex, and even so ,mostly they are never "second-hand"(their only possible sex partner is the male protagonist).
the only exception i can think of is Saber in the Fate series, and believe me, the rage here is no surprise to any native easterners.
I can think of another who is an exception - Saki from Genshiken and maybe Ohno, although the latter doesn't talk about her sex life all that much pre-Genshiken. And Saber was supposed to be a warrior maiden who never DID have time for love, which is why the 'recharge' scene was so significant in the game.
Now, the Heaven's Feel scenario...
Genshiken is so pure a H game that has almost nothing but H, so no surprise there,,, and there may be "second-hand" girls in some galgames in which you can "choose the route of theirs" to play but they are always alternatives which only adds fun to the game or panders to plyers with special tastes(no offensive intended) and are never main characters.
you'll know Saber is not a virgin, if you recall the lines she said before she did the blowjob for Shirou in the game.
Not to mention, through some awful prank of Merlin's giving her a penis, Saber gained a son who was the one that killed her.
Thanks for the spoilers, faggot.
I giggled. ^
It's not a difference between eastern and western concepts, it's plain old sexism and male chauvinism. The idea of a non-virgin girl being "used goods" is not foreign to the west (and pretty much to the whole world) though thankfully western society seems to be mostly over it. Mostly. As is Japanese society, as far as I know.
The rage over a _fictional_ character not being a virgin wouldn't come as a surprise to anyone familiar with otaku subculture. After all, otaku are regarded as maniacs for a reason, and male otaku are not exactly the defenders of women's rights and gender equality.
I was going to make a similar point - it really is about maniacal virgin-complex otaku fantasists rather than anything cultural.
The vast majority of the Japanese comments on this (outside of the thread) are absolutely scathing of, and disgusted with, the attitude of the Nagi haters.
then why are the haters all(or at lest, most of them are) eastern?
see, there is something cultural, which showed itself even among the otakus.
There are no non-otaku haters. Nobody else cares.
im not saying that all easterns share the same concept but you should admit that there are overwhelmingly more estern haters/otakus than western ones/otakus that raged, and i think that's something you call culture.
Even if your observation (There is less outcry among western otaku than among eastern otaku.) is correct, that is not enough to conclude that eastern culture is worse than west culture.
In the west, think about the people that would be outraged by the fact that a love interest is not a virgin: only people that take religion very seriously and quite narrow-minded come to my mind.
What is the chance that such people would be western otaku? to be an otaku in the west, you have to get exposed to it and to get over a (albeit small) number of prejudices. Both are not very likely for the above-mentioned people.
Hence, people that get to be western otaku rarely coincide with western people that hate the prospect of marrying a non-virgin.
In Japan, I would guess that it is easier to be culturally narrow-minded and to be an otaku.
My point is: there is as much stupidity on this matter in the west as in Japan, only this kind of western idiots are not into manga/anime/anything otaku.
Saber doesn't count, she's basically a man like Oscar Francoise in Rose of Versailles.
Plus she had to do it to recharge her mana.
There's always Zange-chan, I liked her better anyway ^_^;;
i'd still hit it...
Of course. We all would. And from a procreation standpoint, having goddess powers the children of such offspring would be well built to survive. It's an evolutionarily sound idea that a man would look for the best genes in opposite sex.
And she'll be able to look over your kids for all eternity! It's really a win win situation.
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I'll just leave this here.
My thoughts exactly. It's amazing how far people will take their fanboy-ness...
man i had a good laugh, that is so right man. those people should do that.
hhahahahahha,.,.,.
maybe this is the truth, , ,
xD jajajajajajaja, tenia tiempo que no me Tenia tiempo que no me reía tanto xD.
Estos otakus fundamentalistas de la pureza xD , bueno.. ya puedo imaginar las discusiones maritales de aquellos que se casaron con Nagi xD
Aquí un ejemplo:
-OtakuX: ¿Cómo pudiste engañarme Nagi?
-Nagi: ………………
-OtakuX: ¿Es que no tienes nada que decirme?
-Nagi: ………………
-OtakuX: ¿No recuerdas los días que dejaba de ir al colegio por verte a ti?
-Nagi: ………………
-OtakuX: Todo te lo di… ¡Maldita sea! y tu…..
-Nagi: ………………
-OtakuX: (llanto prolongado)
-Nagi: ………………
Pram!!!!!! (Sonido de computadora cayendo desde el tercer piso de un apartamento)
-OtakuX: (encerrado en el baño, sonidos no identificados)
¡ESTOY SOLO!, ¡SOLO!, ¡SOLOOOO!!!!
(manos llenas de semen)
Un ejemplo típico xD
Ajajajajajaja Lo más triste es que es una representación exacta de su reacción pero ajajajaja no puedo parar de reir!!!
So the English speakers can get in on the lulz:
How could you lie to me, Nagi?
Do you have nothing to say to me?
Don't you remember all the days that I skipped class to watch you? [Something along those lines]
I gave you everything... goddamnit! And you...
(long pause)
CRASH! (Sound of the computer being thrown from the third floor of an apartment building)
(locked in the bathroom) I'M ALONE! ALONE! ALOOOONE!