Clannad After Story Praised for Faithfulness
- Categories: Anime, News
- Date: Oct 24, 2008 16:33 JST
- Tags: Adaptations, CG, Clannad, Comparison, Kyoto Animation, Visual Novels
Kyoto Animation have earned the praise even of critical 2channers, for we hear that their rendition of a key scene (or at least one fans are particular about), above, is completely faithful to, and even improves upon, the CG original from the visual novel, which you can see underneath it.
As we saw, Clannad After Story is enjoying a hugely favourable reception from fans, so this looks set to continue if KyoAni keep up their impeccable, if unadventurous, adaptation efforts.
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Kyoto Animation? They did the Lucky Star anime didn't they?
ALL HAIL CLANNAD!!!
this was a show to show the kids
I happen to just like the way the story line is coming along for After Story ^^.
Faithfulness or not to the manga aside, it's gonna be a tear-jerker.
Kaioshin, I'm usually a person who takes beef with Kyoto's conservatism when it comes to their adaptation, but what did you think of the addition of Yukine's talk about her experience with her brother in this episode? It was an absolutely masterful stroke! Apart from adding to Mei's resolve, providing continuity and staying very much in-character with Yukine's healing personality, it was also the perfect preparation/foreshadowing for when her story eventually rolls around. I almost leapt off my seat at that particular scene, so perfect it was from a gamer's point of view.
The way I look at it is not that Kyoani is doing anything masterful, but that pretty much every other company that is doing VN adaptations is failing miserably at it somehow. I don't know if it's just that they have no idea what the fans want in terms of an adaptation or that they just don't care, but that seems to be the case. Hence Kyoani's VN adaptations are par or slightly above whereas other companies appear to be mediocore or well below it, sometimes in the realms of "WTF is this shit". Case in point Prism Heart the incomprehensible animation.
Kaioshin, you don't understand, Clannad IS a masterful VN adaptation, as opposed to the average Air adaptation and slightly above average Kanon adaptation. A lot of its mastery is in its subtle elements like direction, scripting and composition, stuff that's invisible to the casual viewer but which becomes apparent on deeper examination. I'm not much good at the latter myself, but if you're interested in learning more, go to the two following sites:
ttp://bdkiss.blog54.fc2.com/category34-1.html
ttp://rainbowoceann.blog120.fc2.com/blog-category-6.html
where they analyse Clannad in detail, and you'll see what I mean when I say Clannad is a masterful adaptation.
It's not always about improvements to plots, characters and dialogue as indicators of a good adaptation, although it can be part of it like the IMO masterful Asatte no Houkou and the Yukine scene this episode.
I can't really see what else you could want me to say here, you call it masterful, I call it fine or satisfactory. I understand perfectly what you are trying to say here, but I just see it in a different way is all. To me the essence of a good adaptation is simple. Almost insipidly so. You take something from one format and transfer it to another with as little loss in the quality and essence of the original as possible. Preferably none if done right.
Occasionally you wrong across those adaptations that actually end up being better then there source material such as the movie the Silence of The Lambs or the TV Series Stargate SG-1 from the movie Stargate, but I agree those are a rarity. I'll try to explain one more time, but the way I see it is not that the average adaptation of a VN is usually so uninspired, half-assed or just plain boring that when one that is actually decent or shows some effort on the part of the production studio like Clannad comes along it might as well be viewed as a masterstroke of adaptation. The same goes for Tales of The Abyss as compared to every other "Tales of..." adaptation ever in my opinion. They are masterpieces when compared to their bretheren.
Great comparison ;)
Here's hoping the show keeps it up
IF Kyou's arc is somehow animated, I might even fall in love all over again with KyoAni... something that won't happen, though...
Kyoani being praised for doing their job? Call me when there's some news.
Hope they keep up the good work, Clannad is too good to mess around with.
Hope they don't make any more blunder in this series as they did in season 1...
HAH! KyoAni is win.
I love KyoAni.
Kyoani is being praised for doing their job as adapters? Wake me up when there's some news....
"Popularity" keeps getting talked about; and it's obvious that the fanbase of Clannad/KyotoAnimu/Key are a significantly large lot of evil and mean-spirited, if not sad, people.
The people who tried to play off this fact and (use everyone else's blogs to) make me look bad; you know who you are, Wit. Where's that proof that you're not just "some jealous troll?"
Wait, saying that the guys who make fun of you for spouting ridiculous, internally-inconsistent bullshit make you look bad is like the girl that asks if a particular dress makes her look fat.
No, as much as it's the fat that makes her look fat, you being a complete fucking retard makes you look like a complete fucking retard, tyrenol-kun.
Why would we be jealous of a thirty-four year old security guard who can't fucking shut up about his VERY IMPORTANT AND CONTROVERSIAL OPINIONS ABOUT ANIME? One who spends obscene amounts of money from his menial job on GI Joes and porno and paid intercourse, and externalizes his issues with women on anime protagonists and fanfic Mary Sues? Can you honestly think of any reason anyone should be jealous of you, Tyrenol?
That's good. I always hate CG scenes.
Tyrenol is actually a classic troll. Everywhere I've ever bumped into him he's always been waging some war against the fandom of a particular show, be it Gundam, Code Geass, Lucky Star, Macross or Clannad. He's ine of those people that by all impressions seems to hate the world and everyone in it. I'd just ignore him and wait till he goes away. Personally I had to eventually take matters into my own hands with my blog.
Still, the question has to be raised, how praiseworthy is a scene taken almost verbatim from it's source? It's not exactly the first time it's been done....or the millionth. Sometimes I think people just like to praise Kyoani for the hell of it, but whatever, trends are trends. I'm just waiting until they actually exceed my expectations with regard to Clannad before I shower them with any praise which so far has happened all of once.
By the way, that whole "Comments may take a few minutes to display", you weren't kidding were you?
Ignore him? But we love feeding the troll; we love him and love to watch him spout off histrionic bullshit over the most inane, petty things that you can possibly imagine, prodding him as he projects his own insecurities on his "haters" and swings at phantoms.
It's great sport! Everyone should try it. Remind him of how much of an otaku he is, that will really get him going.
Tyrenol never grew up. He just grew bitter.
I don't hate the world.
I just hate when companies within the entertainment industry promote bad ideas. And I also hate when their followers defend them against differentiating opinions with said company's cum in their collective mouth.
Finally: I hate when people have something to say, promote their ideas, and proclaim their love; yet hide their identity like cowards. You all (would) know who I am; I took my risks.
You don't want the world to take a good long look at your real-life self for the fear of being ridiculed. That's understandable. I'll admit that I'm not exactly the best-looking guy IRL.
But I've yet to be disproved of the idea that the rest of the people who frequent this site are grossly overweight, pimply, and unkempt.
Oh, and BTW: Jaleel White, who played "Steve Urkel," is BUFF now. Women flock to him and more money is made by him than you'll ever see in your lifetime.
And how can you promote some ideas and the same time hide your identity? It's like saying to everyone that loli stuff is good and trying at the same time to hide the fact that you are a lolicon. It just doesn't makes sense, man!
At least far more praiseworthy than when Sunrise make a trainwreck out of Code Geass, amiright?
Troll m0ar.
You do realize that anything you say to me at this point comes off as petty bitterness and thus is irrelevant right? Just stick to the plan Ascaloth.
Says the die hard Kyoani fanboy who's doing exactly that right now. Oh brother....you know.....no, too easy.
Doing exactly what? Lulzing on you simply because you're being Kaioshin? :p
Petty bitterness lol? Last I recall, I wasn't the one going around blogs and forums lulzing on people who don't share the same fanboyish opinions I do on certain shows. :p
Hey, as long as that gets you to keep being Ascaloth I can't say I really see a problem with that. A Kaioshin can never have to many surprise trolling attempts made on him that end up imploding on themselves by the second reply. You'd think you would have learned by now, but then you wouldn't be Ascaloth then would you. All the more lulz for me. :p
Cool, I'm down with you not whining about others lulzing on you for once. ^_^
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That's cool. I wish the anime adaption of Tsukihime had been this faithful.