Clannad Ero Gallery

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With the favourable reception Clannad After Story has received, a Clannad gallery seems timely. These images should serve to satisfy any curiousity you might have about the characters, as well as provide some beautiful art to scrutinise.

See these images, and many more, on the Channel.

I was quite surprised at the poor standard of most Clannad art; perhaps the slightly awkward original style doesn’t help? Of course, you don’t see any such images here, but they are certainly numerous.

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  • Anonymous says:

    …I’m not sure how you can compare something like Clannad to something like Batman or Iron Man.

    Batman and Iron Man… I mean, they’re like, Super Heros. Clannad revolves around the life of high schoolers…Not some guy in a bat costume, or a dude in a suit of recycled cans.

    The truth of the matter is that most of the people who watched it liked it, and, well, you’re just one of the few that didn’t. You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but there is this Fact about it:
    Clannad is very popular

    Also: Anime comes from Japan, and Batman/Iron Man(As far I’m aware) are made in the U.S. So…How could you possibly even compare something made in Japan, and more popular in Japan, to something made in the U.S, and more popular in the U.S? It just doesn’t make sense.

    Also, about the nonsense logic about guys being mistreated, not understood, and just treated like crap; I never really even saw that. If you’re talking about Tomoyo and Sunohara’s disputes, well, that’s just classic anime humor of the guy getting face-kicked by a girl. Besides that…I don’t recall any other girls who were hating on the guys, although a few possible Guys hating on the girls situations…

    Anyways; You’re arguement makes no sense to me; Comparing totally different things, and saying things that I never seen saw in the anime. It just…Doesn’t make sense.

    I’m also aware that Tyrenol was a troll, and a douchebag, and this is a very old discussion, but I can’t resist pointing out the obvious, and failed, flaws in his logic. Tyrenol, maybe you could read a book on Trolling one of these days.

  • @ Tyrenol , STFU , no one fucking cares, maybe i think you got mistreated as a boy by girls , but who cares. I love watching this show, and I am in the Marines. So if you think you can call some show bad for the reasons you say its bad, then your just some low life scum bag that wants attention for a while and you keep saying your not a “otaku” but it clearly shows that you are. And next time, try watching and understanding the show before you bitch about it.

  • :O soy de argentina, seguramente aki nadie entiendo un pomo de lo ke digo pero bueno.. me encanta el hentai :D.. y ver como se cojen a las pendejas re lindas (l) chupame la pija bye! 😀

  • Anonymous says:

    Clannad isn’t funny or sexy or have cool action sequences. I don’t see where the appeal is to guys (I’m a guy) and it seems girls would get turned off by its harem characteristics.

  • wow, yea I couldnt read through all of that, but I kind of understand where Tyrenol is coming from in the otaku being insulting part of things, even though he overreacted a bit about it. I dont know if you guys live in an area where there the majority of the populace magically likes anime, but I think its safe to say that most ppl arent into anime, and honestly find the majority of it to be pretty strange, and the term otaku to my knowledge is associated with the hardcore anime fan, and is labeled as being “nerdy” and such, which to me at least would be considered an insult. I am a fan of anime, but I honestly dont feel comfortable admitting it to just anybody. I know some ppl are more comfortable with the whole nerd thing, but for me I have always frowned upon nerds or being considered a nerd. I also dont think it is such a tell that someone is an otaku just because they deny it. Its like if you were a heterosexual person and were really turned off by gay ppl and someone tried to call you a fag, you would probably get angry and defend yourself and deny it, that wouldnt somehow mean that you are gay just because your denying that you are. So the logic in saying that he is believed to be an otaku because he so readily denies that he is doesnt make sense. He may just think of it as an insult, like he said. I would not want to be known as an otaku, hell, the ppl I hang out with im sure dont even know what the word means, and I know that they would consider someone obsessed with anime to be pretty strange. I guess it just depends on how you grew up and who you are around as to what you think is positive and negative. If you hang with mostly otaku then of course it would be a normal thing. But I think its safe to say in the thick of our country it isnt a normal thing.

  • whoa, I missed this article, and it was on my birthday…

    Just wanna add this;
    I think Sunohara is actually a very kind person who doesn’t let anything go unchecked when it comes to his principles. He was in the football team, and while he’s quite a small guy, he stood up for himself when he was treated unjustly. And he took his chances with Tomoyo only because he wanted to prove his theory. I think this actually makes him a STRONG character, even if initially people would cast him aside as stupid.

  • Look, Tyrenol, or whatever the fuck your name is:

    Bottom line is, if you don’t like it, state a valid reason, let us accept or decline it, then get lost. Hop on to your Strike Witches and rally the world with it. Now Japan doesn’t “expect”, or even “want” in some cases for it’s stuff to appeal for the world.

    Common sense dictates: Visual novels appeal to more than Japanese. However KEY, the largest and most recognise VN company doesn’t care about subbing it. Why do you think that? It’s because they don’t want to go global! They don’t want to go global, probably (but this is just for fun) so that the Americans won’t replace their seiyuu with some stupid dub person in English.

    If CLANNAD’s plot was entirely about how the girl beats up the guy and dominates him, then there’d be reason to complain. Go complain about Kanokon then, they’re literally raping him everyday. But it’s not! And taking some shit creative writing class doesn’t mean anything. And if that class was worth anything, it should have at least taught you that different people have different views, and you shouldn’t force stuff on others! I was taught that in primary school, and it’ll last to and beyond university.

    If you’re unhappy about your masochistic (haha) spirit being crushed, then why don’t you go engage in some BDSM or something? Where the male completely dominates the female? Go complain about that, go complain about the dominant market being female drawings to satisfy sexual cravings, go complain about gender inequality, because you’d be complaining forever: we should strive for equality, while knowing that it’s impossible.

    Otaku or not otaku, denial or not in denial, just move on man.

  • Wall of text lol. But I didn’t ‘TL;DR’ as it was very informative.

    Just to add a few of my thoughts to the discussion – the only male lead I did not like was Shuffle!’s Rin Tsuchimi, specifically his treatment to his childhood friend Kaede.

    I sure other viewers who have seen the show might have other opinions about it, but for me, it felt unfair and depressing. Sure enough, he only thinks of her as a ‘childhood friend’ and with their dark past together, would opt to break away from it all and give her a chance.

    @Tyrenol

    Well, I’ve been called an ‘Otaku’ by people before, rather than a ‘nerd’ or ‘geek’, but do I think of myself as one? No. And yet, do I mind being called that? Not really, though I do find it amusing to be called such, despite the all the negativity about it – the Akihabara Massacre and the Otaku Murderer (Tsutomu Miyazaki, who raped and kill 4 young girls). So I can understand why someone wouldn’t like to be labelled as an ‘Otaku’, and yet even so, the Japanese media might have gotten it all wrong too.

    Say for example, I might like Marilyn Manson, do people think that if I own a gun and go to college, I might be dangerous?

  • FlameStrike says:

    @Tyrenol Warning, wall of text!

    Haha, I’m getting a feeling a dejavu since just a few weeks ago I had an argument with a person who said Clannad sucks but didn’t watch the whole show nor read the visual novel. Since I enjoy Clannad very much I’ll try to explain the merits of it the best I can. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are not a troll and use logic for your arguments. (I thought the guy I argued with before was a troll that couldn’t be convinced so we ended up raging at each other, I’ll try to avoid that.) I’m not the type that will rage for no reason just because one dislikes the show they like, nor am I close minded to other people’s thoughts. I’ll listen to your side and try to present mine.

    Also I’ll try not to bring the very awesome (imo) Visual Novel into this. I’m pretty biased but I’ll explain the good points without saying stuff like “lulz it’s just good cuz it is”.
    Basically none of this:
    “Okay then. Since you think Clannad is so great then why don’t you explain to us naysayers what makes it so great.

    Give us exact and detailed reasons. Not the “popularist,” “bandwagon,” “Just Shut Up And Enjoy It!” type of reasons. Please.”

    From what I gather, you seem to be at a loss as to WHY people like this show. You know it’s popular, however you have never watched it nor read it. Your negative impression of Clannad seems to be from outside sources and what fans are saying right?

    “I don’t have an argument against it being well received. I would like to know WHY it’s being well received.

    A series containing someone like Youhei Sunahara, who’s a douchebag who usually gets what he deserves… WAY TOO MUCH in my opinion. And then it gets animated by a company like KyotoAnimu; one of the most Godly animation studios in Japan, yet one with a record of (anime women) treating anime men like dirt.”

    Is what you said.

    I think you are too fixed on the whole Sunohara being abused thing and thinking that it is a key representation of Clannad. First of all, Sunohara’s abuse is only one negative aspect that is played for humor. It is by no means an indication that Clannad’s substance is limited to a male being beaten up. For example Tomoya, the male lead, is a strong character whose development can clearly be seen as the show progresses. He starts off with a huge negative outlook on life but his relationship with Nagisa ends up helping the both of them. Nagisa becomes more confident, makes friends, and realizes her high school dream/goal. Tomoya doesn’t feel that he is so worthless anymore. His thoughts about the town being a lame place where nothing changes is no where to be seen. I don’t think you can deny that since you haven’t seen the whole show. Tomoya isn’t treated like anything close to dirt, he aids Fuuko in helping he sister get married, helps Kotomi become more open, and helps Nagisa with the drama club despite him starting off as a “useless” guy. Don’t suddenly forget the other 3/4 of the male characters while reviewing their treatment. (Not to mention the ownage Akio and Yoshino Yuusuke) Oh yeah and you said Kyoani had a history of making shows with worthless guys? Err What? In Kanon Yuuichi was one of the most powerful male leads in harem. He saves animals, fights friggen demons, helps a terminally ill person fix her relationship with her sister, and grants the wishes of someone in a comma. Treated like dirt? Ya right. Even the side kick type character in Kanon has his moments. Yukito and Ryuuya from KyoAni’s AIR adaptation where NOT dirt or worthless either. Well back to Clannad…

    You slander the whole show on the basis that it contains someone like Sunohara Youhei (You don’t know all about him since you haven’t seen the whole show) but that is just your opinion. There are numerous people who think Sunohara is funny, and some even love him! So that’s part of your question answered; different tastes. (Please don’t argue about who has better tastes though.) You can look down upon those people but that’s a waste of effort so you’ll just have to accept it. Even then, Sunohara isn’t that bad of a guy. He even has some wisdom and is a loyal friend. While his good points aren’t shown as much in the anime as the game, I’ll give you an example from the anime: In the first season (forgot which episode) Tomoya is invited to a picnic by Nagisa’s family. Tomoya doesn’t want to go because he feels that an outsider like him wouldn’t fit in with their family atmosphere and would mess it up. Tomoya believes that Nagisa would understand, but Sunohara tells him that Nagisa’s new found confidence was all because of him; he urged him to go to the picnic and told him that he wouldn’t be a bother to the family. He also warned him to think clearly about how Nagisa might feel if he skipped. Another example is in Fuuko’s arc: Sunohara tried his hardest to remember her despite the fact he seemed like he hated Fuuko. He was closer to remembering her then some of the girls who appeared to be nice to Fuuko forgot her already. (Everyone’s amnesia is due to a plot point)

    Some other people mentioned a few of Clannad’s good points but you brushed them off. I’ll try to explain them more clearly to you.

    Good character interaction. Here’s your response to this one:
    “Youhei Sunahara being a douchebag and getting smacked around by nearly everybody. Sorry. Try again.”

    Ok that’s not exactly a fair analysis is it? You haven’t seen the show so you don’t know how the characters interact do you? You just took a bit of information about how Youhei is beaten up and then concluded that Clannad’s character interaction was only that deep. Never mind how Youhei helps the cast, never mind all the times when Tomoya and Nagisa support each other, never mind Tomoyo’s conflict with the student government and how she deals with it. Please don’t make judgments on areas you don’t really know about. If heard there was a scene in a popular book that had a boy getting beaten up, should I concluded that the story is shit and the character interaction is just bullies ganging up on a boy?

    Good animation, k this one’s a no brainier.
    Good voice acting, hmm that’s opinion so there’s nothing to argue here.
    Cute girls, same as the above.

    However all of the below have not been addressed by you, probably because without seeing the show you can’t really know about the interaction, the atmosphere, and the story can you? However the below are all good reasons to watch Clannad.
    “A harem lead that has character and actively takes action
    The atmosphere
    The mix of drama and comedy
    Moving stories (Yes, a little cliché, but moving nonetheless)
    But at the end of the day, the characters are what that carry the show. Their personal motivation, the interaction between them.
    As for positive qualities, I’d say ILM listed a few worthy discussing. One thing that I particularly enjoy despite the harem-esque qualities of the show was the resolution given to the lead’s love interest. Rather than the typical, non-committal everybody gets along (so as not to anger character dedicated fans) we actually see the lead commit to a single relationship, one that is mutual enriching to both characters. I felt it was a strong break from the resolution usually offered in the genre.”

    Also I find this quote of yours quite ironic:
    “So now we’re comparing Tomoyo with Himura Kenshin, are we? Kenshin uses something known as “restraint.” He uses his skills to merely defeat an opponent, not to outright kill him. And also; he gets defeated sometimes, but he works his way out of it. He can take what he can dish out. He’s neither a “Jesus Yamato” nor Tomoyo.”

    You explain Kenshin’s personality and interactions, and show you know a lot about him, then in your next sentence you insult Tomoyo and pretty much tell us how much you DON’T know about her. I mean what the heck comparing Tomoyo to a mecha pilot that kills off (cripples) two armies at the same time? Let’s say I saw a clip of Kenshin WTF OWNING a whole ton of enemies, according to your logic Kenshin is a crazy ass unbeatable swordsmen on par with Jesus Yamato lolol he killz all the bad guys. If I did that most smart people (Who watched the show) would conclude that I am unfit to judge Kenshin’s character (I don’t know much about him) and that I’m mistaken.

    Tomoyo’s character does NOT consist of a lol ownage fighter girl who WTF PWNZ everyone in her way. Like Kenshin, she shows amazing restraint and will power in trying to change who she was in the past. She used to be a crazy delinquent that ran wild, but because of an incident involving her family she resolved to change her self. Upon coming to school Tomoyo decided not to lay a hand on anyone in that school and deal with things properly. However Sunohara was being extremely persistent so she agreed to fight him in self defense. Her aim was to demonstrate the difference in their power so he wouldn’t bother her again. This didn’t work too well since Sunohara’s so thickheaded but he stops eventually. Tomoyo doesn’t like fighting but makes an exception for people who can’t be talked out of it, in other words if there’s no other choice. While she maybe physically strong that’s not all there is to her character. Her interactions with the characters over the course of the show demonstrate the other sides to her personality. Well Tomoyo’s not too focused upon in the first season but the OVA/episode 24 is a good example of how Tomoyo overcomes emotional and other challenges.

    One last thing:
    “You guys should tell Key and Kyoto Animation to collectively pull their heads from out of their rears. And let them know that there are anime fans around the world who like something different from what they’re offering.

    Then, and only then, we can have an actual “intellectual discussion” about the shows they make.”

    This isn’t really a good attitude to take imo. Your approach is kind of bad. Let say like Company A creates awesome Visual Novels, they are loved by their target audience and their products are great to whom their making them for, but then a guy comes along and sees how Company A’s potential to make other products that would appeal to HIM and a group of people with similar thoughts to HIM. He gets angry and thinks “Why is that great Company A making gay ass Visual Novel’s when they could make an AWESOME fps that other people would surely love!” Company A is good at making what they make, and they have fans that love their work, so why should they pander to some random group that never even takes a look at what they are currently offering. You acknowledge that KyoAni’s good, but instantly place your opinion above those that love what they are offering without even trying what they offer? Well if romance and harem are not your thing you might hate it NO MATTER WHAT, in that case there’s no point in even arguing with you.

    I hope you’ll have an intellectual discussion or something despite the fact KyoAni’s not making exactly what you want, but what other people want. If you posted your opinion with your mind already set, then what’s the point? To make fans mad? If you watch the show, and still hate it, it is perfectly fine to explain the negative points of the show you found. There are some people who don’t like it when a person comes in and says XXX sucks for some small trivial reason and claim to be able to pass judgment without looking at the material.

    I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if I said something like “Strike Witches is GARBAGE, I mean HELL it has flying under aged girls in the military with pantsu boobs grabs and shitty character interaction! I haven’t watched the show lulz but I KNOW. I have been watching anime for xx years and just by seeing a bit from outside info I can TELL that it IS garbage! Who cares if it’s popular Lulz, I wish GONZO would make some stuff I LIKE, not this girly flying witches crap. THEN we can talk about their shows.”

    That’s what I felt you’ve said about Clannad based on what I’ve read in your posts. I apologize if it’s a misunderstanding on my part.

    • Well, that basically summed up everything i’ve been thinking as i was reading through these comments. Very nice writing.

      >>Tyrenol

      I disagree with your debating tatics, but giving you the benefit of the doubt cuz no one else really posted good responses outside of FlameStrike and Artefact.

      -You can’t really compare anime with hollywood movies, since anime is catered to Japan, and hollywood movies cater to most the world.

      -You shouldn’t criticize a show unless you’ve seen it all or the majority of it. Basing character interaction and story writing on Sunohara getting beat up by Tomoyo, which takes place in maybe 1-2 episodes(been a while, don’t quote me on that), isn’t fair. Clannad is over 20 episodes long, and is heavy on character DEVELOPMENT. Meaning the characters change throughout the show, which you would know if you haven’t watched it. And it isn’t really male character abuse, since he attacks her on his own. And he isn’t quite a douchebag in the latter parts of the show.

      -i don’t get why you think Key and Kyoto Animation should stop making the what they make. They’re making boat loads of cash off of it. Really no incentive for them to change their business model.

      -I get what you mean by “anime hobbyist”. I would put myself in that category. I watch anime, enjoy it, and sometimes buy stuff when i have extra money. But I’m not an otaku. Just cuz you enjoy something it doesn’t make you an otaku.

  • Too much trolling guys~~~
    time to move on..

    if you hate the series so much and refuse to acknowledge its popularity.
    It doesn’t help even if you bring someone who can talk all the good thing abt Clannad that can even convince blind people to watch it

    I hate football/soccer…
    i do not question fellow soccer fans why they like those stuff where 24 people chasing for one ball
    or why they beat people just bcoz they are from different fansclub…

    just show some respect on other people interest…
    if you hate it, get lost dude~~

    do not start coming out with list of flaws Clannad had, when everything in this world always had flaws where you can poke into and start flaming

    • Tyrenol.. just lol.

      I feel like I’m getting trolled, but hell, I’ll bite.

      Taking a “creative writing” class doesn’t make you a writer in anyway because, if it did, that would mean that I should be a connoisseur in variety of subjects, seeing all the different classes I’ve taken in college.

      It’s too bad, though. Instead of taking a creative writing class, it would’ve been better if you had taken a logics class, that way would’ve thought twice before you posted all the silly comments on this site, and who knows on other sites. Last I heard, arguing about a subject you don’t fully know and understand would mean that you’re ignorant.

  • >>Tyrenol:But that’s the beauty of “first impressions.”
    I said, “It’s what foot they put forward.” You put your best foot forward. You wouldn’t hang around somebody after a bad first impression, would you? (Unless you’re desperate.)

    And you therefore prove yourself to be shallow. Insulting a entire show based on first impressions.

    Just asking, did you even watch the first episode? Because if you didn’t, it means that your “first impression” of CLANNAD is just second-hand info. (And insulting a show based on that is sad.)

  • >>ILM: Please, they already know that. And guess what? They are not going to start catering to pretentious people who claim that their shows have bad writing and bad character interaction without even watching it.

    But that’s the beauty of “first impressions.”

    I said, “It’s what foot they put forward.” You put your best foot forward. You wouldn’t hang around somebody after a bad first impression, would you? (Unless you’re desperate.)

    >>raikentb: Actually, Otaku is a Japanese word referring to someone who is a hobbyist so it would be fitting if you referred to your self as such. Regardless of how you refer to yourself you are what you are 🙂

    Ah, but you’re not getting it.

    A “hobbyist” is someone who’s into something during his spare time (away from work and such). An “otaku” is someone who’s obsessive and with poor social skills. It’s a negative and insulting tag along the lines of “shouting the ‘N-word’ within Atlanta, Georgia, and hoping to leave alive.”

    (I, an African-American person, would never use the N-word. But I use the word “otaku” to describe a percentage of anime fans.)

    It’s funny, though.

    If “Clannad spices up my life” had been said instead of “Clannad IS life;” then maybe I wouldn’t’ve replied. But I was under the false impression that the otaku-tachi have a life. Or else “…IS life” wouldn’t have been stated. A translation error, maybe?

    • Ah but I do get it Tyrenol. Also I think you’ve got the wrong impression about the term otaku if you’re prepared to compare the term to a racial slur 🙂 You’re contradicting yourself when you’re calling it a tag but then saying otaku have no lives. If it were true for all of them it wouldn’t be a stereotype. You can’t say it’s just a label people selfishly use but then go and say you’re not part of that group because you believe they all have no lives. You’re just afraid of being called that. Personally I can’t understand why since like I said earlier it’s not a big deal in the states. You wouldn’t give off such a strong impression that you’re like otaku if you didn’t make such an effort to prove otherwise.

      • So, in other words, here I am saying “I’m not an otaku.” And here you are saying “I am an otaku.”

        Another one of the many reasons why I hate otaku and state that I’m not one. You tend to take what people say and then turn it on their heads.

        You’ll watch a weaker guy get beatened up by women and call it “entertainment.” And now this?! Hey!

        • I’m not the one turning it on it’s head. I’m saying it’s you who is doing that. You’re running out of actual counters to my argument and it’s funny. If you’re so scared of being labeled as an otaku you shouldn’t make such a spectacle of yourself in front of people you deem as such. It’s just backfiring on you. I can’t answer your last question since I haven’t seen the anime yet so I can’t really pass judgment on it and neither can you.

    • Quoth the source of that phrase:

      はぁ、CLANNADは人生。

      Ahh, Clannad is life.

      Quite a strong statement I think you’ll agree. Clearly, some take Clannad very seriously.

      I’m still amused at the creator’s laziness in not bothering to find out what the term means and just filching it from the name of the band… In the age of Wikipedia there can be no excuse for such sloppiness.

  • Funnily enough this whole drivel makes me want to watch Clannad now.

    Tyrenol: Actually, Otaku is a Japanese word referring to someone who is a hobbyist so it would be fitting if you referred to your self as such. Regardless of how you refer to yourself you are what you are 🙂 It’s not limited to anime either. There are plamo otaku, idol otaku, etc. The word has less negative connotation in the states as opposed to Japan whereas if you wanted to be addressed there politely people would call you a maniac(マニアク).

    I can understand you not liking a series that’s popular but that’s also going to make it hard to have others that agree with you regardless of how you feel about it. You have to realize what you’re stating here is largely your opinion as opposed to facts.

  • >>what the heck?

    I know as much about Japan as the next person who doesn’t live in that country. Japan has a different way of doing things than the rest of the world; some ways not as welcome to Americans as they would like.

    A show like “Kodomo no Jigan” that sexualizes elementary school girls. Not even the otaku are dumb enough to proclaim their love for that show in public.

    And I mentioned the PKK; I thought you people LOVE it when when women run things. Isn’t that why you watch anime?

    Speaking of which…

    >>HumanSoap

    I’m not an otaku; I’m an “anime hobbyist.” I call myself an otaku and I’ll get swept into unescapable depression. No thanks.

    >>S_K: I’d like to acquire this skill as it would save me a lot of time reading and critical thinking.

    It’s all about experience. If you spent the last good 15 years watching anime, then you’d know what to expect.

    It’s more about what a company does with a show, the source material, and what foot they put forward, than anything else.

    It really doesn’t help when, say, they put into their blurb about “how a boy is powerless and useless.”

    >>ILM

    So now we’re comparing Tomoyo with Himura Kenshin, are we? Kenshin uses something known as “restraint.” He uses his skills to merely defeat an opponent, not to outright kill him. And also; he gets defeated sometimes, but he works his way out of it. He can take what he can dish out. He’s neither a “Jesus Yamato” nor Tomoyo.

    And while I must thank you for answering my question; I just need to laugh at a couple of things:

    >>Good character interaction

    Youhei Sunahara being a douchebag and getting smacked around by nearly everybody. Sorry. Try again.

    >>Cute girls

    Really, though? That’s like a 85% of what the anime industry makes.

    >>Seriously, give it a try. Throw you preconceptions away and just watch it, one episode a day. After you finished, you can rant about how lousy it is and I will try to have a proper intellectual discussion with you.

    You guys should tell Key and Kyoto Animation to collectively pull their heads from out of their rears. And let them know that there are anime fans around the world who like something different from what they’re offering.

    Then, and only then, we can have an actual “intellectual discussion” about the shows they make.

    • >>Youhei Sunahara being a douchebag and getting smacked around by nearly everybody. Sorry. Try again.

      Good going. Making a blanket statement of a show’s character interaction based on an gag for comedy.

      Lets do one for Strike Witches! You stated they are three dimensional characters?

      They boob grab each other. Sorry. Try again.

      I find your last comment hilarious, though.

      >>You guys should tell Key and Kyoto Animation to collectively pull their heads from out of their rears. And let them know that there are anime fans around the world who like something different from what they’re offering.

      Please, they already know that. And guess what? They are not going to start catering to pretentious people who claim that their shows have bad writing and bad character interaction without even watching it.

      I will answer your other points later. (Sleep comes first)

  • @Tyrenol – By your own admission you’ve never watched the anime or played the game, yet you can attest to the bad quality of the writing? I’d like to acquire this skill as it would save me a lot of time reading and critical thinking. Rather than an “outsider looking in” you seem more like the heckler in the audience.

    As for positive qualities, I’d say ILM listed a few worthy discussing. One thing that I particularly enjoy despite the harem-esque qualities of the show was theresolution given to the lead’s love interest. Rather than the typical, non-commital everybody gets along (so as not to anger character dedicated fans) we actually see the lead commit to a single relationship, one that is mutual enriching to both characters. I felt it was a strong break from the resolution usually offered in the genre.

  • You know skimming over what some of the negative comments about Clannad some of you guys have basically said: “I don’t like Clannad and refuse to acknowledge any positives about it simply because it is popular!”

    You know guys thats is one of the crappiest excuse of a reason i’ve ever heard. Perhaps I might as well say food is shit or breathing is gay because everyone does it?
    Seriously keep your hateful comments to yourself if you can’t come up with anything with substance to say.

  • >>ILM

    GONZO’s Strike Witches had proven that women can deliver fanservice and still be strong, three-dimensional characters.

    That’s who men usually want: Females with a head on their shoulders and a hole. Anyone too mood-swingy and b###hy like Kyou, anyone too “undefeateable” like Tomoyo… A sane guy would yell “NEXT!”

    >>Louis

    I’ve took a “creative writing” class in college. I know which titles have bad writing and bad character interraction from five miles away. And it just so happens that CLANNAD is within said five miles.

    • >> Tyrenol

      I really wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, but honestly your fanfics are absolutely dreadful. I don’t think you know what good writing is. Those creative writing classes of yours were clearly worthless. You should demand a refund for those lessons you took.

    • Firstly, I admit that I dropped Strike Witches after two episodes as I felt it was just an inferior Sky Girls, so I will not argue with you over that.
      Just asking, do you think that sane women see someone “undefeateable” like Himurai Kenshin (from Rurouni Kenshin) and yell “NEXT!”?
      Actually, the girls in CLANNAD are more normal than those in Kanon and AIR, actually. They have a few quirks, but who doesn’t?

      The problem is that how are you so sure that CLANNAD has bad writing and bad character interaction? Just because you took a “creative writing” class means nothing if you do not even try it. I recommend that you watch CLANNAD first, then criticize it.

      You wanted a list of reasons why CLANNAD is great, so here it is.
      Good character interaction
      Good animation
      Good voice acting
      Cute girls
      A harem lead that has character and actively takes action
      The atmosphere
      The mix of drama and comedy
      Moving stories (Yes, a little cliche, but moving nontheless)
      But at the end of the day, the characters are what that carry the show. Their personal motivation, the interaction between them.

      Seriously, give it a try. Throw you preconceptions away and just watch it, one episode a day. After you finished, you can rant about how lousy it is and I will try to have a proper intellectual discussion with you.

    • SomeoneElse says:

      I happen to like CLANNAD, but I agree with you whole heartily. Men are treated like shit and overall, outnumbered in anime. You’ll never see someone fuko (who for the most part is only there for comic relief) get kicked a million times.

      Most anime have men starting to play the damsel in distress role and the women riding in on the shining armor saving the incompetent male lead.

      People need to speak out against bad traits in anime instead of ignoring it like Louis says. Other wise its just gonna spread because it’s seen as part of a formula that works.

      And in my opinion, Batman should not be compared to CLANNAD. In comparison, Batman is great, CLANNAD is not.

  • If you don’t like it, you don’t have to watch it. Stop whining already jeez. Its just an anime series like any other anime series you see. I played the visual novel, and its great.

    Needs moar Nagisa!

  • 1st off: Pornography always makes everything better. And last I heard; CLANNAD didn’t do so well without the HGCs.

    2ndly: I know that I’m outnumbered in my opinion. This garbage of a series IS popular. But that doesn’t mean I shouldn’t speak up and state the obvious.

    On a side note: Did I play the “visual novel” and watch the anime? No and no. Is what I say still revelant? Well; just think of me as an outsider looking in and putting you on the spot.

    And finally: “Phenomenally well received?” “Favourable reception?”

    http://www.google.com/trends?q=batman%2C+clannad%2C+ironman&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1

    I went to “Google Trends” and compaared CLANNAD with Batman and Ironman. You might wanna check it out.

    • Anonymous says:

      It is really how you look at it, just as you call other people’s favorite “garbage”, we can also call your favourite “shit”. But if we can disregard the parts we dislike and just look at the good points, even anime that are hated can be like.

    • http://www.google.com/trends?q=ef-+tale+of+memories%2C+clannad%2C+Zero+no+tsukaima&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1

      Look what happened when I checked popularity between the much better animes than Clannad. Some how I ended up seeing them much lower than expected.

      Do you know why is this? It’s because Clannads had a visual novel since 2004. It has 9,000,000 articles when you search it google. Ef and ZnT has about 1,000,000. They’ve ofcourse gained more articles.

      And when you spice in some Batman, you 87, 800, 000 articles! Gosh, that’s a lot. You know why?
      Batman was made in 1939. Though Google was founded 1998. Either way, 6 year is a lot of diffrence.

      And may I also count in, batman isn’t anime. Anime is mostly hated in the world.

      Wait a sec..
      http://www.google.com/trends?q=Fate%2Fstay+night%2C+clannad&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=1

      Both of those are Visual Novel made year 2004. Clannad is pretty popular compared to Fate/Stay Night.

      Little tip.. search up some first, think a little, and be ready to discuss it out, K? 🙂

    • I must complement you on your critical thinking and attitude – I happen to appreciate these qualities.

      I checked your figures; unfortunately, I’m going to have to gleefully demolish your argument. If you try restricting the results to Japan:

      http://www.google.com/trends?q=batman%2C+clannad%2C+ironman&ctab=0&geo=JP&date=all&sort=1

      Clannad is ten times more popular than Batman. Even if we include “バットマン”, Clannad still wins by a mile, and displays a huge spike with the new series. Ironman doesn’t even get a look in. You are welcome to shoot back by comparing it to a popular anime, though.

      I must also point out that I generally base my “fans say” type statements on what is being said on the Japanese Internet, where it has almost all been positive.

      Also, Clannad has or had a lock on the Amazon preorder charts for the DVD, so clearly people are buying it and not just praising it on blogs and 2ch.

      Personally, I do not see what the fuss is about, but I think it is accurate to describe it as well received.

      • Finally; it’s funny how you mention Naruto, a show I don’t like either…

        If you restrict the search in Japan only; that title’s neck-and-neck with Clannad. Search via all regions; Naruto crushes Clannad like a building onto a poor defenseless child.

        So no. I don’t have a problem with how popular it is in Japan once it’s kept in Japan. But try to fling that title out to the rest of the world; and I ask the question, “How is it going to be presented?”

        It’s been tried before: “It’s popular in this country, so it should be popular everywhere else.” It’s been tried with Haruhi; now people here and there are sick of it and want to move on. (Especially since there are videos on YouTube featuring pig-ugly people dancing to Haruhi’s theme song.)

        • I have been watching clannad since december of 2008, and after the first season, I also religiously watched the second but unfortunately, the story; in which the person who is watching the series will be treated a complete idiot(nagisa, tomoya, ushio will alldies then be brought back to life and then time will go back to the time when nagisa is having labor? I thought tis was drama?!?!). I don’t know if everyone will agree to me but I guess kyoto animation is just being faithful to the game without making revisions to the script so that the fans will not feel betrayed. A better adaptation of clannad was released on film by toei animation way back 2007(courtesy of course of Toei Animation Philippines who was responsible of the overseas animation, which are my people)in which story wise, was short but very superior to the series kyoto animation made. …and of course, sunohara was not treated as dirt in this film, mind you.

          -DarkdaemonPK2

      • I don’t have an argument against it being well received. I would like to know WHY it’s being well received.

        A series containing someone like Youhei Sunahara, who’s a douchebag who usually gets what he deserves… WAY TOO MUCH in my opinion. And then it gets animated by a company like KyotoAnimu; one of the most Godly animation studios in Japan, yet one with a record of (anime women) treating anime men like dirt.

        It’s not just Clannad, though. It’s Kanon, Fullmetal Panic, To Heart 2, on down to Ranma 1/2, and even Evangelion. It’s Japan’s psychological misandary, and only a few were able to deal with this in a serious fashion.

        I know about the tons of pre-orders for this titles. I fear the day when the entertainment industry will only be about “Godly-animated shows where men are nearly irrevelant.”

        There are women soldiers of Kurdistan’s PKK who treat their male subordinates better than this; and they’re a labled terrorist group.

        http://cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/06/iraq.pkk/index.html?iref=newssearch

        • Actually, he (Tyrenol) might just be an otaku who doesn’t understand Japanese language. Note that all of the titles he mentioned are easily available in English through fansubs or commercial releases. English-speaking audiences tend to have a much lower tolerance for misogyny than the Japanese do, so the majority of English fansubbers and commercial translators tend to “play it safe” and only translate anime that are neutral or misandrist. Thus, anyone who bases their opinions on just English fansubs and DVD/tapes will end up with very, very incorrect conclusions regarding Japanese gender roles.

          His idea that Clannad is worse than terrorism is really really weird, though.

        • what the heck? says:

          Kurdish terrorists? You must have serious problems telling the difference between fantasy and reality if you think that the fictional slapstick violence in anime is somehow worse than what terrorists do in real life.

          And if you think that Japan has a misandry problem, then you quite clearly don’t know a thing about Japan, a country that despite recent advances is still very misogynist. As far as I can tell, you’re just another out-of-touch otaku who takes his anime so seriously that his sense of reality is warped.

        • Basically, your beef with the show is that the male characters get treated terribly. I think that is the first time I have heard something like that. Actually, this happens to only Youhei Sunahara.

          The more worrying practice in anime(in my opinion), is the mistreating of women as nothing but fanservice material. At least in CLANNAD, they are given depth and do not exist for the sake of panty-flashing.

          There are many shows out there where women are nearly irrelevant, and exists purely as love interests and/or fanservice. I don’t see you complaining about that. Having shows where men are nearly irrelevant is not a bad thing and would balance this out. (Unless, of cause, you are sexist.)

          In any case, shows where men are irrelevant can be good. Case in point: Simoun. One of the greatest anime series ever made.

    • You can’t exactly compare an anime that has barely got licensed yet to Hollywood blockbuster movies. Hell, replace Clannad with “Sailor Moon” in your search and you get much the same result.