Jakuryusei said:

This is positively the cutest smile~

I don’t think she’s smiling in that pic jaku. Looks more like an anxious lip bite.

juno016 said:

ねぇ、ちょっと遠慮した方がイイだと思わないかい？

Refrain from what? ?_?

techne said:
Last one I got that is don't really like, but somewhat enjoyed making.

Those shoes. A tip on coloring. Never use the fill tool unless you made the line using vectors.

Also, what aspect of it did you enjoy making? Goodness gracious I hope it’s not the boobs. Boobs are unnecessary pieces of fat. Haha.

techne said:

animation survival kit is a absolute must for any animator, new or old. It comes highly recommended from any accredited animation instructor. It written by Richard Williams who is known as the lead animator for the 'Who framed Roger Rabbit' movie. It is kinda old, but does stand the test of time. The good version come with a video cd's. I know their is a torrent going around for it, but you can buy physical copies for cheap. I don't condone pirating, it destroy shows. That why Tron: uprising and Young Justice are getting canceled.

For just basic art, Get Force: Dynamic life drawing for animators. It has great examples how to push your poses and get the best for life drawing. It also has great basis for basic art and comes from the very accomplished Mike Mattesi, who worked on lion king and is currently a life drawing instructor at Pixar Animation Studios.

<3 Now time to search those and download them using torrent.

On another note I feel like only kids and grandparetns watch TV now adays. So any show aimed at teenagers, young adults and mid-adults are bound to fail in the advertising nielsen category as those demographic knows true and well how to download from the internet for free instead of watch them on the tv.
Sad really… If only they integrate the internet and advertising to it's fullest. But first your shitty American internet-infrastructure must be updated to the likes of South Korea.

Peter Barton said:

I haven't seen anyone on the forums not keen to western art.

omnimon3000 said:
And said that people are not too keen on western art (This is probably people’s beef with my post; [b]Though to clarify [u][i]I only meant[/i][/u] that most posts here are eastern and discussions are of anime relation[/b])

Let me reiterate. It was a mistake on my part to use another sentence to mean another way.

Peter Barton said:

We have never had a problem with people posting western style art in this thread. People have posted finger nail art in this thread along with hair art for Christ's sake.

Honestly put more western art in here.

And I never said people can’t post western art :/
I just said that his art is very western.
And said that people are not too keen on western art (This is probably people’s beef with my post; Though to clarify I only meant that most posts here are eastern and discussions are of anime relation)
And asked if he can draw in eastern?

P.S.
Try not to read too much into the words D: I never intend to ever get into a fight.

techne said:

Ya, I can draw in a anime style, it just I would have to force myself. I come from a animation school, and while anime was liked it was never a center of attention for many students and teachers. Disney and Warner Bro's were what we (and I) took major influence from. Especially since my favorite artists are also animators, Like Glen Keane for example.

Interesting an animation student. We have a resident animation student too called giascle. You may have a very good conversation with him if you find him. Well he’s a funny guy, might get some time getting used to. Haha.

Anyways, I’ve always been interested in animation. Any books you can suggest about animation that gives the low down quick? Just a tl;dr version for now. Please and thank you.

aneko said:
Case in point.

And don't try to speak for other people.

Hmmm… Did I? My bad. Pretty sure most drawings and discussions here are about anime. I was just asking him if he can draw in that style. Sheesh, stop with the beef Antika, we know your kind of a hot headed red head but I'm just trying to create discussion.[b]

EDIT: Well fuck so it was NEKO? Figures… sorry antika I thought it was you who was posting. He had a victorian dress as an avatar D:[/b]

juno016 said:

Art is funny. It is always subjective, and yet there are things you just… learn to do "better" with time.

I think this is where most people fall short of learning art.
Art is anything but subjective up to a point wherein you can already recreate the things you meant to do in your head.

Art is very objective in the learning department specially at the first stages of development.
Being able to perceive forms, colors, reflections, diffusion, scattering, shadows, highlights. These are very important things to learn if you want to create something that would tug the viewers.
And don’t get me started on the imagination of individual skeletal structure, muscle, cloth dynamics and such.

Bottomline is don’t be snotty about art and start picking up a book from the masters and learn from it. They already took the time to learn these basic things so you can start to actually create art and/or add to the existing techniques.

techne said:
Let me try this again with another picture, re-sized of course.

Very Western. This is an anime board and people are not too keen with that art style. Can yo draw in a style that is distinctly eastern?

Ninsheart said:

(As usual, you need to full-view it to see the [i]☆authentic pixel effect☆[/i].)

Your coloring skill indeed has gone way up Nin. Time to work on your proportions and sense of 3d in your drawings and you will be creating a work that rivals the pros.

I have an Ipad 1. It’s kinda old I guess?
Willing to test it out for you if you don’t mind.
Upload through mediafire?
Fuck, how does one transfer it?

Jakuryusei said:

I really don't think I'm the most knowledgeable here…

Virtually everything is just trait forward by-hand stuff. I stack a lot of layers, but that's the most complex part of it. *shrug*

Well that sucks, kinda hoped you can suggest a good book of sorts. Welp time to go just google I guess or just start doing trial and error in my free time. Oh and Buy a Wacom Tablet… (Shit I have no money ;_;)

Peter Barton said:
That coloring style looks really muddy.

That’s a problem I get when not using any contrast tools post processing :/ It looks so much more vibrant in the Ipad 1 drawing app. One of the viable explanations I have read is that Ipad 1 has a different range of color production than normal monitors and actually over compensates in the colors saturation and I end up with muddy colors when I export it ;_:

Jakuryusei said:

Ish Sai's watercolor tool! I did a bunch of flat(-ish) colors, then I spammed a BUTLOAD of shading and lighting layers over it. There's some half-transparent gray layers too to make the colors more monotone in the areas I wanted boring-er.

Interesting. So you also have a desaturation layer. The amount of tools available is kind of overwhelming for me and I just end up using a few layers and using the circular brush tool.
Any suggestions on where to start learning digital art seriously?
Loomis isn’t really where one can learn digital.

aneko said:

I'll do it. Personal opinion.

H-Ero said:

^

/debate

We can actually use a discussion on why exactly people think it’s great or not.
You’d be surprised that if you flesh things out word by word argument by argument, you can actually come to a mutually objective decision if something is “good” or not. This works for any media we consume and actually on everything in the world.

(Ex. art)
Unless you’r one of those pretentious lazy artists that think everyone just has their “style” and that beauty in art is wholly subjective and on personal preference, then art is anything but subjective.

We can boil it down to the ability of an artist to mimic life in their paintings to the minutest of details.
Or the ability of an artist to compose a painting that pleases the eyes and makes crumb trails that the eye can follow thru by using various bold shapes or subtle shading.
Or the use of color to evoke emotions; and the use is totally intentional and the shade the artist used is exactly what he thought off.

And in media, we can tell what has shitty writing by seeing if they were able to convey the world/scenario in a way that convinces, immerses and captivates the viewers. And this is what we can discuss about actually if you are willing.
But not here, either pm me or we create a new thread; Also please excuse me if I can’t reply readily, I live on opposite time tables to you guys :P

H-Ero said:
I don't think Eva is a good show. I think it's a great show.

Care to defend your stance? ah nvm that would derail this thread. This is for Purchases. Just pm me if you want a debate on that.

Speaking of purchases. I WANT the GuP Tanks and miniature girls SET. Sooo badlllyyyy D: Might be my next purchase as soon as I muster money. (If they are not sold out yet ;_; )

Any show that required a masters in Bulshit is a bad show.
Come on Sankaku forum goers, I expected better of you than to think eva is a good show.

<blockquote><cite>Jakuryusei said:</cite>
Hmm… lighting is off, and the composition is piss poor, but I'd say I'm done.

I tried to draw melted plastic dunes, but they came out looking like snow, huh?

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Nice work on the lighting Jaku. How do you create yours? Gradient fill of a temporary rectangle? Or just brute forcing it with the brush and eraser tool?

<blockquote><cite>sutefuwani said:</cite>
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Speaking of brute forcing it, Sutefuwani is the opposite. You try so much on using the tools at hand (photoshop) to add to your drawing. Maybe try to create a full picture with only using the circular brush tool and the erase tool. This would probably increase your ability as an artist. Also try to keep the number of layers you use below 5. 'Tis a challenge from me and a helpful advice.

And now time to dump some recently drawn err… drawings.

Btw. Dan Hibiki. Since you already tried perspective. Try out thinking of everything in squares/cubes. (i.e. Think minecraft if you play taht shit)
Everything and I mean EVERYTHING can be constructed with this. A sphere is just a smooth cube after all. A cone is a pointed cube.
Try it. It will help give your artwork volume and perspective (upto the minutest of detail)

giascle said:

Dude knows what's up

But I have the cutest Avatar. (ie. most diabetes inducing)

danhibiki said:
Yeah, her legs would definitely be longer. It was just to make sure I was getting what Anohreul was saying.

Yes your diagram is correct.
Now go fort and draw with perspective. It’s that easy~
If you want to be more precise think of everything as getting reduced in height proportionally on the distance it is from you.
Ex. If it is 2 times farther away it is 1/2 it’s orginal size; 3 times away = 1/3 size; 4 times away = 1/4 size and so on.