antika said:
So, if I decide to become a "Kopimist", do I get to download stuff without having to worry about paying a bunch of money for it if I get caught? Since it's my religion, that is.

The Swedish file-sharing laws will still apply to Kopimists. What the Church might do, however, is to give file-sharers a platform where they can share information without fear of being monitored. Trackers operated by OPs will effectively become confessionals, meaning that what is transfered between the clients and the tracker can't be used as evidence since privileged conversations are protected by law.

The Antiweeaboo said:

Hmm

Location, United States..

ESFP………

Seriously?

Deth said:
Its one of the – "one things" – that gets (bent) in so many way to begin with…

There’s a simple reason why there are currently over 30.000 different denominations of Christianity: The bible can be used to justify pretty much anything.

[quote]What you stated was supposed be – "blankets all" – which it doesn't nor apply to all.

Your generalizing…[/quote]

Would you have been happier if I had said “Inflicting physical pain” instead of “Beating”?

[quote]Again.. you used the word – [i]"seems"[/i] – as your not sure..[/quote]

While I did use the word “seems,” there was no doubt in my mind that you supported the physical abuse of children.

[quote]Yes, its true, in some cases, ‘[b]violence[/b]‘ – is needed, and again, its dependant on what that is, some are laissez-faire while some are quite [b]savage[/b].[/quote]

Fixed it for you.

[quote]For the record, I never in – ANY – case did I use the word – "beating"… if I had that would mean I condone it, according to your visual and by what I am reading…[/quote]

You sure didn’t. All you did was support the act of inflicting pain on defenseless children in order to “correct” them.

[quote]The issue of watching a video linked in a thread, for no one to view, to then cast a opinion on, is not allowed?[/quote]

Did I say that you weren’t?

[quote]We're talking about the situation (NOW) and I am a product of the those type – disciplines – as seen in the video, which are – "mild" – by comparison to what I (and many here also) have been through.[/quote]

“Discipline.” Right. Let’s be honest here: If you were to apply that same form of “discipline” on someone who wasn’t your child, the least you’d get would be a fine.

[quote]To a point, it made me into the person I am now[/quote]

Yes: Into a person who makes exceptions for violence when it’s inflicted on ones own offspring, apparently.

[quote][i]in addition[/i] – I also changed the way I discipline my own son, which is not in the same way as they had me, because I don't agree with it.[/quote]

You’ve used the word “discipline” to refer to the act of inflicting physical pain throughout your post. Are you still doing this, or have you abandoned the use of physical violence? If you haven’t then you have barely changed at all. I hope you have.

[quote]Each parent (should) do what is necessary to maintain discipline[/quote]

Even commit what would be considered a misdemeanor if it was done to someone who wasn’t their child?

Whatever happened to the equal protection under the law? Why shouldn’t children be protected from abuse simply because the one inflicting it is a parent?

Peter Barton said:
So you aren't going to answer my question. Alrighty then.

Does the bible condone slavery? I’ll wait patiently untill you’re able to give me a real answer ^^

tip: there isn’t one, as they’re all contradictory to one another.

hikikomori1969 said:
Hmmmmm…. wut

If condemning slavery is a “modern value” then those who saw to it that slavery got abolished must have traveled into the future in order to obtain those values. Otherwise, it’s not a “modern value,” but a rather old one.

Pyrolight said:
Lol WTF are you talking about? How does child beating, raping your wife and the new testament (Christians) tie together?

Spare the rod, spoil the child.
The wife should be subject to the husband in everything.

[quote]Beating is a very subjective term.[/quote]

Beat: To hit; to knock; to pound; to strike.

[quote]Also in most of the world this would be considered normal. Most of the world is not nearly so woosie when it comes to corporal punishment.[/quote]

It’s unfortunate that “most of the world” allows parents to physically abuse their children. I wonder why they deem children to be less worthy of protection from their own parents than from other adults.

[quote]Of course your shouldn't since it was the accepted norm. Putting modern values on "history" is common but quite stupid.
[/quote]

Modern values? Are you suggesting that someone from the 18th century or so jumped into a time machine and traveled to our time, adopted some of our values, and then went back? Lawl.

Peter Barton said:
So you have no real answer. Alrighty then.

I find it difficult to get real answers from the bible. It simultaneously supports and condemns things, while things that we consider to be heinous today are only condoned in the bible, and subsequently disregarded by apologetics.

Paul had some things to say about what women and wives should do. Perhaps you should read his writings.

Peter Barton said:
I never read the bible. Please explain.

It’s quite simple: It’s the big book of multiple choice.

Tired of mowing your lawn? Why, go and get yourself a slave to do it for you!

Peter Barton said:
What is the connection between raping your wife to beating your kid when they are being disrespectful?

The bible. I hear it’s quite popular over there in the U.S..

Deth said:
Sociably acceptable? – I think not

Beating your child is an accapted practice in at least some areas of the U.S.. You’ve got quite some work ahead of you if you are to argue that it isn’t. And, in fact, it seems like you believe that there are at least some cases where beating your child is acceptable. Why else would you look at a video where a 16-year-old child is being beaten by her father and go “[i]there might be mitigating circumstances[/i]“?

[quote]This situation, like many similar, can been seen differently, depending on the generation and how that generation was brought up believing…[/quote]

I’m sorry? Are you meaning to say that we shouldn’t criticize e.g. the slave owners of the 17th century merely because they didn’t know any better?

donyea said:
this has been done for thousands of years. It use to be worse.

Is this how it’s being justified these days? Pathetic.

Socially accepted physical abuse of minors…

Tell me, are men allowed to rape their wives as well? I’d expect nothing less from such a backwards society.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/user/stanforduniversity]Stanford[/url] and [url=http://www.youtube.com/user/UCBerkeley]Cal[/url] uploads videos as well.

Opening: 4’33
Ending: 4’33 in reverse (Subliminal Message Ver.)

palmtop-tiger said:
The only way to unite the world's population is to give them a common enemy. When faced with death, the color or creed of a helping hand matters not.

Where’s Lelouch when you need him?

ryuu said:
go to zeitgeistmovie . com watch the first movie (skip the first hour to get to the 9/11 stuff).

To think that so many people take that shit seriously…

Gantz_Playboy said:
I am … Pro-Civil Unions (just not calling it Marriage).

Still stuck in the old thinking of ‘[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal]separate but equal[/url],’ eh?

Ninsheart said:
You guys are all barbarians for not watching Nyanpire.

<3

Gantz_Playboy said:
Imagine for a sec the dopes out there who just hear 1 POV (like in the Unionized Left-Loving Public schools?). It's sad and kinda Pathetic.

Yeah! Wouldn’t it be better if the rest of the world worshiped at the altar of O’Rly like you do, gantz? I mean, gems like these are just too good for the rest of the world to miss out on:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1078836718001/media-brand-norwegian-maniac-a-christian-extremist