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   Kudilicious
   

   The whole "anime characters look white" thing has caused a lot of lulz amongst 2ch nationalists and sociologist weeaboos, so I wondered whether anyone thinks it's only because of Western bias that FF characters look white.

   I think it's quite interesting that in a medium where artists are expected to create realistic looking characters, Japanese developers tend to make people who very definitely look Western. True, there are some exceptions (Tekken, for example, has a pretty decent number of Asian-looking characters), but generally, Japanese games in which the characters look realistic tend to have far more Western-looking characters than Asian-looking ones.

   

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2. 

   Pacpon
   

   So is that chick/boy (Never got into FF) supposed to be Japanese or what? I'm sorry I don't think it's a western bias to think that's a Caucasian person considering he/she has blue eyes and ash blonde hair. >.<

   Posted 5 years ago #
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   alex251
   

   Maybe they are spoiled by anime so they make them as an anime character would look like in 3D (in real life) ? And I guess they want them to look perfect -> anime style -> then it looks western
   It's probably that they don't care if they look western they just want them to look perfect and sexy...

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   Icy-nee-san
   

   I think the reasons why anime final fantasy characters look white to Westerners but not to Japanese people are quite obvious:

   1. Westerners see colour as the most important determiner of race. What race their facial features are typical of is up for debate, but there's no doubt that most anime final fantasy characters have white skin. Real Japanese people tend to be much darker than the idols in the ads splashed all over this site.

   2. The style you see in nearly all anime final fantasy and manga is ultimately derived from a few American cartoons from the 30s, 40s and 50s. I suppose that people who are brought up with that style being dominant will just see it as "anime final fantasy style" and won't notice any racial features.

   3. There are occasionally characters who definitely look Asian, and they stick out far more than the characters who are designed to look white.

   It's also worth noting that Japanese video game characters nearly always look very Western, even when it's a fantasy setting. See FF for examples.

   Really, this "hurr durr Americans see anime final fantasy characters as white because they are racist" attitude stems from 2ch butthurt and Americans trying to be politically correct and showing how enlightened and racially sensitive they are. It's interesting that the original post comes from a site full of sociologists which is clearly popular amongst left-wing academics.

   There are good reasons for Westerners to believe that anime final fantasy characters look white. That doesn't mean that they were consciously designed to look white; obviously they weren't. But when one looks at the differences between how Westerners and the Japanese see race and the differences between how they perceive the anime final fantasy art style, it's not hard to see how Westerners might come to the conclusion that anime final fantasy characters are designed to look white.

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   Gogetters
   

   Looks white to me... as for the western bias crap...
   I don't give a crap what country or race the character looks like just give me my games anime and hentai with a decent plot so i can enjoy it!

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   fatalerrer
   

   I'm personally of the opinion that many people are making a lot of noise about nothing. I can usually see why people will get behind arguments, but this one just eludes me. Why is this so important?

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   Panda Hero
   

   its the same when a non asian is drawing anime/manga characters. 90% of them get japanese names. no1 gives them names like "Daniel Schneider" or "Peter Barton" [XD], why? coz they admire the anime/manga culture and link it with japan.

   FF = Fantasy World just think that the FF guys admire the west and use their fantasy for design and name. they distance oneself from their own culture and dive into fantasy.

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   Myballz
   

   Why are their only a few Black Characters in Final Fantasy?

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   fatalerrer
   

   Because the Japanese aren't used to having them around? You don't see many East Indians in anime for example.

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10. 

    Panda Hero
    

    Myballz said:
    Why are their only a few Black Characters in Final Fantasy?

    coz white is the new black?

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    Manztaku
    

    fatalerrer said:
    Because the Japanese aren't used to having them around? You don't see many East Indians in anime for example.

    yes and there might be a chance (due to lack of knowledge and exposure to them) that they could make unintentional racial insults, which would bring more shit to hit the fan.

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12. 

    Liar
    

    Do you want to see 90% of the game character like normal people you usually met?
    Me, NO. At least they must be at Idol level. Well Idols tend to be more white than normal people. Just look at this image.
    
    Compare to this one
    

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    alex251
    

    I just like how they make you thick eyebrows when you are from UK
    
    I don't know but according the eyebrows I would guess Mugi is from Britania too
    

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14. 

    Kudilicious
    

    
    

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15. 

    Kudilicious
    

    Icy-nee-san said:
    I think the reasons why anime final fantasy characters look white to Westerners but not to Japanese people are quite obvious:

    1. Westerners see colour as the most important determiner of race. What race their facial features are typical of is up for debate, but there's no doubt that most anime final fantasy characters have white skin. Real Japanese people tend to be much darker than the idols in the ads splashed all over this site.

    2. The style you see in nearly all anime final fantasy and manga is ultimately derived from a few American cartoons from the 30s, 40s and 50s. I suppose that people who are brought up with that style being dominant will just see it as "anime final fantasy style" and won't notice any racial features.

    3. There are occasionally characters who definitely look Asian, and they stick out far more than the characters who are designed to look white.

    It's also worth noting that Japanese video game characters nearly always look very Western, even when it's a fantasy setting. See FF for examples.

    Really, this "hurr durr Americans see anime final fantasy characters as white because they are racist" attitude stems from 2ch butthurt and Americans trying to be politically correct and showing how enlightened and racially sensitive they are. It's interesting that the original post comes from a site full of sociologists which is clearly popular amongst left-wing academics.

    There are good reasons for Westerners to believe that anime final fantasy characters look white. That doesn't mean that they were consciously designed to look white; obviously they weren't. But when one looks at the differences between how Westerners and the Japanese see race and the differences between how they perceive the anime final fantasy art style, it's not hard to see how Westerners might come to the conclusion that anime final fantasy characters are designed to look white.

    

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    Antiveli
    

    Nope, they look azn to me.

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    alex251
    

    this will explain everything :)

    

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    Konrad Scorciapino
    

    Fuck being politically correct. Why question this? Why they're usually white? Hell if I know, but one thing I do know. I sure wouldn't like a game/anime/whatever full of asians or black people everywhere. And screw whoever says that I'm a racist! Yes, I like some asian and black characters here and there, but I like when they're kept to a minimum.

    I prefer white characters, and I find white women sexier. That's reason enough for me, and it seems to be enough for almost everyone else too.

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19. 

    Kudilicious
    

    fatalerrer said:
    I'm personally of the opinion that many people are making a lot of noise about nothing. I can usually see why people will get behind arguments, but this one just eludes me. Why is this so important?

    It's important because it gives people a chance to feel superior to others by calling them racist. Which is pretty ironic when you think about it.

    alex251 said:
    I just like how they make you thick eyebrows when you are from UK
    
    I don't know but according the eyebrows I would guess Mugi is from Britania too
    

    But neither I, Saber or Ana Coppola have big eyebrows :3

    And on the subject of the UK, I find it pretty interesting that the author of the article that caused all the fuss used this picture, in which the British girl has the same kind of facial features and skin tone as the Japanese ones:

    

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20. 

    Sorrior
    

    The Antiweeaboo said:
    Nope, they look azn to me.

    Same here actually. first thing i thought with the ff pic especially was they eyes look asian so he's modelled off of an asian.

    I still don't get why this is such a big deal though.

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